2012-10-19, 15:06 | Link #61 | |
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2012-10-20, 03:50 | Link #62 |
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About the skeptical people who thinks that such women cannot possibly exist in real life, I'll point out to: Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother, who refused to evacuate to Canada and decided to stay with her people during the Blitz. Also Genevičve de Galard.
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2012-10-20, 14:33 | Link #63 |
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Isnīt the concept of an action girl inherently sexist?
It promotes/glorifies a girl who does stereotypicaly manly things like kicking ass and taking names. The subliminar message being "manly stuff=cool, girly stuff=lame". |
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If we drop back to the '60s - you might see 2 or 3 women in a week of television who did much besides wring her hands or scream in a situation. Now you might see 2 or 3 a night. In anime, you're dealing with a culture with differences in attitudes toward women. Quote:
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2012-10-20, 17:58 | Link #66 |
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I am going to have to agree with Vexx: what is sexist is assigning things as traditionally girly or manly.
Well in general I don't like labeling for guys or girls. Hence speaking of anime this is why I really like when characters (male or female) go against traditional gender roles (but this is something different from the female action role.) An example I am talking about would be Kino is Kino no Tabi who actually doesn't really identify as a woman or a guy but as a traveler. Then there are series like Rose of Versailles and Utena who explore gender identity as well. As for male characters I feel the character in my icon (Natsume Takashi) also has characteristics that aren't considered traditionally masculine. I think we shouldn't pigeonhole in general. Society might deem something as "masculine" or "feminine" but I think it is wrong to label that way.
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2012-10-20, 18:52 | Link #67 |
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Well, there were at least some real life female warriors in history. Joan of Arc, for example.
And there's many female soldiers and police officers today, and I'm sure they at least occasionally have to engage in serious combat, just like male soldiers and police officers have to. So I don't see why an "Action Girl" would be any more inherently sexist than a female police officer or soldier would be.
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2012-10-20, 22:06 | Link #70 | |
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I believe it has more to do with cultural and gender roles, I am not sure how it is in the East but I know in the West women are often portrayed as the caretakers while men went out and did stuff. It may be outdated now but it still there in some shape or form. Seeing women who kick ass and take names may not be a new thing but the cultural norms and gender roles make it seem so.
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2012-10-21, 00:14 | Link #71 | |
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The only combat *assignment* women are excluded from are direct infantry assault roles. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Exclusion_Policy
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2012-10-21, 11:13 | Link #72 | |
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Memory is sketchy, but she motivated soldiers, she didnīt actually participate in the infantry/cavalry charges. Queen Boudicca would probably be a better example of a female warrior. |
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2012-10-21, 11:47 | Link #73 |
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That is one of the problems with Hollywood is the near requirement to force a male love interest into the action girl's life. Why can't she be like a Japanese Heroine, happily in an almost lesbian relationship with some other girl
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2012-10-21, 11:50 | Link #74 |
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So... It's okay for action boys to have a female love interest, but when an action girl gets to be with a guy, it's not??? Gee...
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2012-10-21, 12:15 | Link #75 | |
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2012-10-21, 14:08 | Link #77 | |
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I think people are affraid a male love interest may ruin the whole female empowerment thing. If the action girl falls for a guy, they fear sheīll love her independence and sideline her own quest/interest/agenda for the sake of loverboy. Theory #2 They just may not be too keen about heterosexual relationships. Theory #3 [Insert your own theory here.] |
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2012-10-21, 16:31 | Link #78 |
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Lara Croft is THE North American "Action Girl" .. And she always has love interests.. Who usually betray her.. and/or die..
At least she's not always showing her panties off though.. There was another episode of Najica "Fanservice" Blitz Tactics where every time someone jumped into a prone position or were knocked out or shot, the camera would be facing their crotch/butt 100% of the time.. I gotta find that one.. I hated that show.. and my friend LOVED it.. |
2012-10-21, 16:48 | Link #79 | |
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Maybe that pretty boy in Angel of Darkness? Dunno, if they existed they were quite unremarkable for me to completely forget them. |
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