Mahouka - Episode 26 (END) Discussion / Poll

[Key Board]

are we sure the students are the good guys?
I sure as heck doubt it

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by rladls2121

If Great Asian Alliance knew the existence of Material Burst, then would not they evacuated civilians first?
But if I'm missing something, then it is too soon conclude.

Realistically, if they knew they were that outmatched, they wouldn't have attacked at all.

Originally Posted by Tormenk

GAA had no idea. None of the world knows about Material Burst at all either.

He used it once before. (In the prologue of ep1.)

[My Zodiac Aries]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Realistically, if they knew they were that outmatched, they wouldn't have attacked at all.


He used it once before. (In the prologue of ep1.)

but they're not sure what explosion was that. they don't know it is mass conversion.
and if i'm not mistaken, the explosion was rather small compare to yokohama incident.

[Anh_Minh]

They know it was a really, really big explosion. Which ought to be enough, but no... (How big it was is novel info, though.)

[My Zodiac Aries]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

They know it was a really, really big explosion. Which ought to be enough, but no... (How big it was is novel info, though.)

e=mc²

in the prologue, he use about 10 - 20 gram.

in yokohama, he use 1 KG.

[Calca]

Originally Posted by My Zodiac Aries

e=mc²

in the prologue, he use about 10 - 20 gram.

in yokohama, he use 1 KG.

1 KG of annihilation energy would be about 10,000 Hiroshima bombs. It would equal the force of the Tsar Bomb which was the largest hydrogen bomb ever detonated.

Is this what the LN claims? That is an excessive amount to remove a fleet.

[My Zodiac Aries]

Originally Posted by Calca

1 KG of annihilation energy would be about 10,000 Hiroshima bombs. It would equal the force of the Tsar Bomb which was the largest hydrogen bomb ever detonated.

Is this what the LN claims? That is an excessive amount to remove a fleet.

yes, Hiroshima is about 13-18 Kiloton. Nagasaki is about 20-22 Kiloton.

in the prologue, he use about 10 - 20 gram equal to 430 Kiloton.

in yokohama, he use 1 KG which equal to 20.000 Kiloton

Tsar Bomba is about 50.000 Kiloton.

[tsunade666]

Originally Posted by Calca

1 KG of annihilation energy would be about 10,000 Hiroshima bombs. It would equal the force of the Tsar Bomb which was the largest hydrogen bomb ever detonated.

Is this what the LN claims? That is an excessive amount to remove a fleet.

Overkill much?

[My Zodiac Aries]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

Overkill much?

Hiroshima's radius is only about 100 - 200 metres.

Tatsuya's Bomb is about 2000 - 3000 metres.

[Marcus H.]

Civilians are definitely struck. There's no way they'd avoid such a blast.

[chaosbeowulf]

For those discussing about Japan's preemptive attack on GAA's Naval Base...

Spoiler for LN spoilers:

IIRC, during the first GAA invasion 3 years prior to this Scorched Halloween event, the US did nothing to prevent the invasion. This is still excusable (maybe the US forces were unprepared, etc.); what it inexcusable is that there was indication that the US did this to trim Japan's overall magic and magician's strength. There was even a rumor that GAA's Japan invasion was sanctioned, albeit covertly, by the US government. With this information, how do you expect Japan to react to the second invasion? Just roll over and take it, because of their crime in WW2?

Another thing to remember: the setting of Mahouka is post-WW3. It is highly possible that the geopolitics of the world is different from what we currently knows. So, I don't quite understand why people pointed out that the novel has the right-wing flavor to it; this feels a bit like prejudging the Japan in the Mahouka universe with incomplete information.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by My Zodiac Aries

e=mc²

in the prologue, he use about 10 - 20 gram.

in yokohama, he use 1 KG.

For the fleet. For the retreating ship, it was what, half a gram?

[Calca]

Originally Posted by chaosbeowulf

For those discussing about Japan's preemptive attack on GAA's Naval Base...

Spoiler for LN spoilers:

IIRC, during the first GAA invasion 3 years prior to this Scorched Halloween event, the US did nothing to prevent the invasion. This is still excusable (maybe the US forces were unprepared, etc.); what it inexcusable is that there was indication that the US did this to trim Japan's overall magic and magician's strength. There was even a rumor that GAA's Japan invasion was sanctioned, albeit covertly, by the US government. With this information, how do you expect Japan to react to the second invasion? Just roll over and take it, because of their crime in WW2?

Another thing to remember: the setting of Mahouka is post-WW3. It is highly possible that the geopolitics of the world is different from what we currently knows. So, I don't quite understand why people pointed out that the novel has the right-wing flavor to it; this feels a bit like prejudging the Japan in the Mahouka universe with incomplete information.

Um...please don't blame the United States for Japan's actions in the LIght Novel...you're claiming things that the US does is inexcusable yet at the same time excusing things that Japan does due to the geopolitics of the world. This reflects a possible bias you may have of the United States in real life if you aren't willing to give the US the same excuse.

[My Zodiac Aries]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

For the fleet. For the retreating ship, it was what, half a gram?

in the prologue he use 20 gram. ( radius about 100 metres )

in yokohama, the first bomb he use 50 gram of water. ( radius about 200 metres )

the second bomb, he use 1 Kg. ( radius about 3000 metres )

Second Bomb assumption

Originally Posted by Calca

Um...please don't blame the United States for Japan's actions in the LIght Novel...

agree.
we can forget about that.


i remember SpongeBob quotes the famous saying, "All's fair in love and war,"

[Gundamx]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

Well, they had one (aside from Lu, who got stomped by highschool kids repeatedly), but

Spoiler:

he was on that fleet that Tatsuya nuked.

Don't underestimate his family.

Spoiler for spoiler:

they got lucky, nuke only useful against far target unless he want to kill everyone around himself
(if that boss arrived, there good chance for him to defeat tetsuya)

[Kakurin]

Originally Posted by chaosbeowulf

So, I don't quite understand why people pointed out that the novel has the right-wing flavor to it; this feels a bit like prejudging the Japan in the Mahouka universe with incomplete information.

The right-wing reference has nothing to do with the Japan of the Mahouka universe. It has to do with how the author structures his world and what actions he lets his protagonists and actors in that world take. Considering the current real-world climate a show which emphasises a constant threat from a big mainland nation attacking poor Japan unprovoked plus the portrayal of a strong military and weapons with limitless power is bound to invite right-wing propaganda accusations. And seeing it all I am trending towards the notion that the author has right-wing tendencies.

[Valky]

Originally Posted by Calca

Um...please don't blame the United States for Japan's actions in the LIght Novel...you're claiming things that the US does is inexcusable yet at the same time excusing things that Japan does due to the geopolitics of the world. This reflects a possible bias you may have of the United States in real life if you aren't willing to give the US the same excuse.

That's how it is in the story though.

It's not like they are not an allies in Mahouka-verse. They are allies, but they are also rival in the pacific. Japan declines is USNA's gain, Japan will rely more on them thus USNA will have more reign on them.

Seeing how the situation is, and the Japanese fleet aren't ready, I personally think it's quite understandable if they decided to launch the Material Burst. It's more cheap, more efficient, they don't need USNA's help, and it can prevents the GAA to further attack them. It's a war after all, what's wrong with that?

[tsunade666]

there is nothing right or wrong in war. its just political way to get resources but in a form of force.

[Sixth]

Just want to make sure..

Do you think that Kami-sama knows time and space magic and the power of the summon meteors at his will? Because my gut told me that he CAN!

Serious note:

So why are those GGA attacks Japan in the first place? I must had forgot their intentions for this invasion.

[Valky]

Originally Posted by noobita

Just want to make sure..

Do you think that Kami-sama knows time and space magic and the power of the summon meteors at his will? Because my gut told me that he CAN!

Serious note:

So why are those GGA attacks Japan in the first place? I must had forgot their intentions for this invasion.

Well, you might want to read Rain then. Another OP Magician, well, in his case it's sword magic. OP character with OP abilities, and yes, he can Summon Meteors.

On the serious note, it didn't explained by the scriptwriter, which is the reason why I don't like this adaptation.
Note that GAA is behind in magic tech so they want to steal data about magic & magicians of Japan from the Magic Association, they also want to kidnap valuable magicians so they could be used as tools in negotiation for releasing the prisoners of GAA.