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Old 2016-08-26, 01:08   Link #1601
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REJOICE, BROTHERS! Macross Delta Vol.2 BD liner notes have specs for the Sv-262 Draken III! In M3 form:

Equipment Type: Variable Fighter
Government: Windermere Kingdom
Manufacturer: General Galaxy Corporation SV Works
Accommodation: Pilot only
Dimensions:

Length: 17.54m (Sv-262Hs)
Wingspan: 13.00m (Sv-262Hs)
Height: 5.74m (Fighter), 15.78m (Battroid)

Mass: 9,810kg
ISC Max G-Load: 30.8G
Power Plant: Two P&W/RR/LAI FF-2999/FC2 Stage IIG thermonuclear reaction turbine engine
Propulsion: 2x 1,955kN (Hs type can increase output nearly 30% using reheat system)
Thrust-to-weight ratio: 40.642 (unboosted)
Performance: Mach 5.8+ at 10,000m (capable of independent flight to satellite orbit)
Design Features: 3-mode variable transformation, ISC/T021G inertia store converter, SWGA energy conversion armor, pinpoint barrier system, active stealth system, chaff/flare/smoke discharger, bulletproof shield.
Armament:

2x Ramington LM-27C 27mm railgun pod (right forearm)
1x General Galaxy GBP-35A beam gun pod
4x Micro-Missile Pod (detachable)
2x Lilldraken (armament options available)
2x Laser machine gun (Hs type only)

Armament: (Lilldraken)

1x 30mm beam cannon
4x Micro-Missile Launcher

Armament: (Lilldraken, Alternate)

1x Jamming System



In this day in age, Sv apparently doesn't stand for Sukhoi Variable anymore... it's "Slayer Valkyrie".
To me it is starting took like elements within General Galaxy is looking shadier than before. In Macross Dynamite 7 Loschier's black market was selling them new teal VF-17Ds. Macross Galaxy was sponsored by General Galaxy as well. Epsilon Foundation it seems has a connection to General Galaxy if they are selling those.
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Not to mention Galaxy escorts are similar to battleships sold by Epsilon.

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What is the Sv-262 Draken III?
A variable fighter used by the Aerial Knights of the Kingdom of Windermeria.
Its roots can be traced back to the Unification War some 60 years ago.
Alexei Kurakin who headed the development of the SV-51 in the same era would later found General Galaxy. He predicted that that there would not only be fighting against Zentradi and humanity but amongst humanity and so he set up SV Works within General Galaxy for the purpose of always developing a VF that could always compete against the latest VF.

SV stands for Slayer Valkyrie or Slayer VF; in other words, it is an anti-VF VF.

Afterwards, Belger Stone of the Epsilon Foundation, who was interested in the high specs of the Sv-154 developed by SV Works, transferred ownership of the entirety of SV Works to the Dian Cécht Company, a subsidiary company under Epsilon.

The Sv-262 which was developed so as to also meet the demands of Windermere, is a state of the art variable fighter produced by SV Works.

It was designed as an interceptor and for base defense and exhibits incredible climb rate, acceleration, and mobility, but the amount of internal propellant it can hold is low and its range outside of the atmosphere is limited

The greatest feature of the fighters built for the aerial knights is the reheat system which is equipped with fold quartz excavated from the Protoculture ruins of Windermere. It is a device that is based on the same principle as the fold wave system but it is mainly purposed for overboosting, and while it does have fold wave relay and amplification functions, they are limited.
No wonder the Sv-262Hs can keep up with the VF-31 Siegfried's Fold Wave System, besides having a strong Fold Receptor pilot it has an inferior version of the Fold Wave System. The VF-31 Siegfried uses a version of the Fold Wave System used by the YF-29. Fold Dimensional Resonance System of the YF-30 is a more advanced version of the Fold Wave System.

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Old 2016-08-26, 11:47   Link #1602
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Spoiler for BD Liner Notes translated by /m/ Anon:


No wonder the Sv-262Hs can keep up with the VF-31 Siegfried's Fold Wave System, besides having a strong Fold Receptor pilot it has an inferior version of the Fold Wave System. The VF-31 Siegfried uses a version of the Fold Wave System used by the YF-29. Fold Dimensional Resonance System of the YF-30 is a more advanced version of the Fold Wave System.

It looks like Anti-UN Sv developers got integrated to General Galaxy and continued to develop Anti-VF units. The Zentradi Variable Glaug is speculated to be developed from General Galaxy and Macross Combine's VBP-1/VA-110 Neo Glaug. Data being leaked to rebel and Lost Zentradi.
http://nomansland.site.nfoservers.co...42833#msg42833
Spoiler for Macross the Ride VBP-1/VA-110 Neo-Guraaji:

http://monkeybacon.mywebcommunity.or...NeoGuraaji.php
Spoiler for Macross Chronicle Variable Glaug and Neo Glaug:


However SV Works got bought by Epsilon Foundation that may not have necessarily Anti-UN motivations. Meaning we don't know what is Berger Stone's end game. Certainly he is playing all sides. NUNS, Anti-UN engineers and Windermere.

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Spoiler for Liner Notes VF History translated by Wakusei from Macross World:




Well with the VF-4 even considered not to include the transforming feature was mentioned once before. Kurakin and Federov are like the main timeline counterparts to Dr. H. Takachihoff who founded Takachihoff Company in the Macross II timeline.
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Old 2016-12-17, 17:49   Link #1603
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Can someone clarify for me, which class of variable fighter is the one that the NUN Spacy uses in episode 1, 4, 6, etc.? The one with the solid brown coloration.
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Old 2016-12-17, 17:55   Link #1604
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That's the VF-171, aka "The thing that doesn't look so special so the bad guys can blow up a ton of them." They were teal in Frontier.
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Old 2016-12-17, 18:50   Link #1605
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That's the VF-171, aka "The thing that doesn't look so special so the bad guys can blow up a ton of them." They were teal in Frontier.
Although their specs were supposed to be pretty damn good.

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Old 2016-12-19, 00:49   Link #1606
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What are the main protagonist fighter classes in the series prior to Delta?
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Old 2016-12-19, 11:21   Link #1607
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What are the main protagonist fighter classes in the series prior to Delta?
Depends what you put on it. They are all commonly designated as space superiority 'Variable Fighters', but equipment and accessories make a big difference. For example, some come with heavy support weapons, others are dedicated to recon and they can be interchanged.

There had been one dedicated ground-support VF I can recall, that being the VA-3M Invader.

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Old 2016-12-19, 12:18   Link #1608
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That's not what I meant. I mean which variable fighter class is the primary one used by the male protagonist pilot and/or his squadmates in each series?
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Old 2016-12-19, 12:40   Link #1609
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That's not what I meant. I mean which variable fighter class is the primary one used by the male protagonist pilot and/or his squadmates in each series?
When you say 'class', you are asking what they are designed for or designation. Since thats not the case, I am going to assume you are inquiring about numerical designations.

VF-1 in Super Dimension Fortress Macross
YF-19 & YF-21 in Macross Plus
VF-11, VF-19 & VF-19 in Macross 7
VF-25, VF-27 & VF-29 in Macross Frontier

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Old 2016-12-19, 13:35   Link #1610
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What, so you're telling me that it's wrong to say "Star Trek's Constitution class" or Star Wars's Acclamator class"?
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Old 2016-12-19, 14:14   Link #1611
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What, so you're telling me that it's wrong to say "Star Trek's Constitution class" or Star Wars's Acclamator class"?
First of all, you listed two examples that aren't fighters. Second, I had no idea what you were asking. Nobody use 'class' to designate fighters, except maybe medium, light, heavy, interceptor, air-superiority, ground-support... etc. But I've yet to hear something akin to 'Fighting Falcon'-class multirole fighter aka F-16. Hell, even in Star Wars, a X-Wing is just that, a X-Wing 'interceptor'.

If you are wondering about similar class designation, then they are also present for Macross capital ships, but there aren't any for fighters. Now, if you want specific nomenclature, then there is that.

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Old 2016-12-19, 22:48   Link #1612
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Goodness General Galaxy is the Anaheim Electronics of the Macross setting.

Spoiler for Cross reference on how General Galaxy is screwing with the UN/NUN Government:

Basically enemy VFs with exception of Protodevlin redesigned ones can be attributed one way on another to General Galaxy field testing them on frontier planets by leaking to Anti-UN groups who then leak them to Lost Zentradi. Started by the designer of the Sv-51 himself. His SV Works had a hand with the Variable Glaug used by Anti-UN Zentradi, Sv-154 Svard and Sv-262 Draken III. Highly suspect with the Feious Valkyrie too as General Galaxy employed their engineers to the Queadluun Alma. The General Galaxy branch Guld Works on Macross Galaxy developed the YF-27, prototype of the VF-27, field testing it by attacking a VF race. Macross Galaxy illegally massed produced the VF-27 without informing Earth or NUNS Central used in their bid to take over the Galaxy. It isn't just VF but also a Zentradi battlesuit, Queadluun Alma. General Galaxy built the Queadluun Rhea and given the parts compatibility the Super Glaug and Type-106 Regult. Makes you wonder if General Galaxy produced the battlesuits seen only in Macross Plus OVA episode 1.

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Old 2016-12-20, 20:56   Link #1613
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The difference being of course, that General Galaxy more or less does this in the open...

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Old 2016-12-20, 23:01   Link #1614
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Is the Macross Elysion the same size as the Macross Quarter? And a different size as Battle Frontier, Battle Galaxy, and Battle 7?
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Old 2016-12-21, 00:20   Link #1615
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Is the Macross Elysion the same size as the Macross Quarter? And a different size as Battle Frontier, Battle Galaxy, and Battle 7?
When they are in assault mode.

Macross Elysion
Height: 828 meters

Macross Quarter
Height: 316 meters

Macross Galaxy
Height: 1186 meters

Macross Frontier
Height: 1186 meters

Macross 7
Height: 1177 meters.

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https://clubotakublogblog.wordpress....rontier-yf-29/

Will someone remind me if and when the YF-29 was used in Frontier? I'm drawing a blank looking at this model.
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Old 2017-02-05, 16:43   Link #1617
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https://clubotakublogblog.wordpress....rontier-yf-29/

Will someone remind me if and when the YF-29 was used in Frontier? I'm drawing a blank looking at this model.
2nd Movie, Alto's.
In the 2nd half of the movie, after S.M.S. is flying solo.
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Old 2017-02-06, 08:32   Link #1618
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Interesting in keeping up with metafiction Macross Delta suggest Frontier TV events but movie mechanics with the YF-29. Much like Macross 7 it seems operating on TV series story but DYRL visuals.
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Fiction within fiction means they can use whatever they want from past stories without having to explain contradictions. It's a smooth cop-out and the very least of the issues Macross has.
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Old 2017-05-01, 00:50   Link #1620
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While looking over the Macross tech glossary in Japanese wikipedia I found this.

https://translate.googleusercontent....BC.BE.EF.BC.89
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Thermonuclear reaction system
Gravity control technology etc. introduced in conventional nuclear reaction theory. It is widely used for power of ships and destroyed (thermonuclear reactor), thrust of aircraft (thermonuclear turbine engine), weapons (reactive bullet) and so on.

Thermonuclear reactor
It is widely adopted as a large output power engine of race derived from protoculture such as Zentoradi and inspector troops as well as human being who investigated the crashed macross and commercialized the reactor ( nuclear fusion reactor ).

Thermonuclear turbine engine
Small nuclear power propulsion engine using nuclear fusion (Thermo-Nuclear Reactor Turbine Engine) installed in VF series etc. The propellant (propellant) is heated and expanded by the thermal energy of the reactor ( nuclear fusion reactor ) and injected as a high temperature plasma flow to obtain thrust.

The advantages compared with conventional jet engines are

It can be used in all areas as a jet engine in the atmosphere and as a rocket engine outside the atmosphere without changing the engine just by replacing the propellant.
Compared with conventional chemical fuel, consumption of reactant (nuclear fuel) is extremely small, so the in-cylinder fuel space is greatly reduced and deformation mechanism can be introduced.
Since it is possible to compress the inexhaustible air in the atmosphere and use it for the propellant, it adds to the reason of 2 and in effect obtains an infinite cruising distance.

The initial type thermonuclear turbine engine mounted on the VF - 1 was not much different from the jet engine in terms of thrust. In addition, although capacity shortage of propellant (hydrogen compound) outside the atmosphere was a problem, these were solved by booster and additional equipment (FAST pack) which also serves as a tank increasing tank. In the next- generation thermionic nuclear burst turbine engine (Thermo-Nuclear Reactor burst Turbine Engine) mounted on the VF-16, the theory of heat exchange has advanced, the propellant consumption rate outside the atmosphere has been greatly improved, Nearly doubled. This made it possible to break through the Atmosphere by itself and Space Cruise without FAST pack. In the early 2050's, the " Stage II thermonuclear turbine engine " with a high output distinct from conventional engines appears [6] . The enormous surplus output of this Stage II engine made it possible to install more powerful beam weapon as standard, to develop energy conversion armor and pinpoint barrier in all forms.
Okay to achieve nuclear fusion they use Gravity manipulation. Frak no wonder they went from a clean nuke to a black hole bomb.
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