Shuffle! Episode 24 Discussion

[Laxe]

I'm confused...it's not fansubbed yet right? Are you guys watching the raw?

[hi no ken Jebus]

Here quick crappy screencaps from me

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[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by hi no ken Jebus

Here quick crappy screencaps from me

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Seems like the Kings did't recognize Ama-san.

The Neko hats were too good a disguise.

[Vexx]

So .... apparently we're getting the mildest of all possible endings. I'll wait til I see the ep to make a final conclusion but instead of a "life changer" its muddled a bit to another day in the life. This probably makes more sense for any follow-on OVA --- especially with Primula. And Asa better keep her rearview mirror clean because all those objects are closer than they appear.

I'll declare the producers have come up with a new definition for "innovation" ... and I thought the Honda Corporation was conservative ...

yay... Nerine gets to sing her song? (dance)

At first I thought the Sia/Kaede stuff was some creative fan alterations.... but it looks like the animators are just throwing in fluff to grab all the angles they can ((I dunno .... heh, Sia and Kaede later grow to hate all men because of Rin??? j/k))

eh.... I'll waffle more when I see the ep....

[Riker]

Originally Posted by Paracelsus

Riker...where are Sia, Nerine and Kaede >_< ?????

Okie. Here you go.

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SEED mode FTW.

Originally Posted by hi no ken Jebus

Here quick crappy screencaps from me

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Spoiler for My comments:

In the last part, the 2 Kings seem to have just walked past Ama as if nothing was wrong. Ama obviously recognized them from her expression. I found it weird that they couldn't sense something different in Ama.

What could this mean?

1. Ama has passed on most of her magic energy to Asa, thus Ama currently hold little to no magic. That's why they couldn't sense her.

2. The 2 Kings know it all along, but they pretend not to. Maybe they felt somewhat apologetic after all she went through, thus they want her to lead her life as it is now and not disturb her.

[EDIT]

Originally Posted by Omniscient's blog

In the afternoon, Eustoma and Forbesii pass by Ama on the street. Within earshot, they remark about how she looks like someone who had died, and indirectly apologize to her as they walk away

Ah, as I expected. It's no.2
Thanks for the summary, Omniscient.


Also special point no.3

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Damn you Xellos for pointing that out while I was typing all this.
I need to type faster. :x

[Omniscient]

Final Episode Screencaps and Summary

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Overall, the ending was a bit anticlimatic for me. Granted, I knew long ago how this was going to end, so that does affect how I see the ending. But, if you take the final episode by itself, I rather enjoyed it. The Asa finale was done exactly how I thought they would, long hair and all. The second half had its funny and conclusionary moments (Ama, Foubessi, and Eustoma being the big one for me).

[npal]

Oh well, at least this travesty is officially over... Did they really had to go with that ending? The H-man appearing was funny though At least AFTER Asa's ending resolved, it's midly interesting to watch, just to see what kind of idiocies they were gonna pull. Oh yeah, and Nerine was good in the ending

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by npal

Oh well, at least this travesty is officially over... Did they really had to go with that ending? The H-man appearing was funny though At least AFTER Asa's ending resolved, it's midly interesting to watch, just to see what kind of idiocies they were gonna pull. Oh yeah, and Nerine was good in the ending

Come on KKK, you guys can't still be bitter over this kaede lost out on the Rin sweepstake but she won the Sia/kikkyou (2 for 1) prize instead

[Pellissier]

I think that somewhere I must have read that the authors promised a sort of "revolutionary" ending.

Well.. it isn't

I'm looking forward to see this last episode, in order to judge the emotional impact the key scenes will have, but I'm guessing that my final rating for Shuffle series is swinging between 7.5 and 8 (out of 10), at the very end

[Vexx]

<sigh> its not about the Kaede (or at least not for me...), Xellos ... its about the way they got there. Come on, admit it --- they didn't treat Asa very nicely either, giving her lines to say that just didn't sound like the character they developed.
The last half concludes some things but, imo, pretty clearly sets the stage for OVAs.

Like I said, Asa better keep her rearview mirror clean because "all those girls are closer than they appear"... and now Kareha and Primula are on the move...

edit: aye, Pellissier .... I'm putting it at a tentative "8" overall ("10" in some parts, "6" in others) ... mind you I give Love Hina a "9" FOR THE YEAR IN WHICH IT AIRED ... but over time it has dropped to a "6" overall when compared to H&C, Mahoraba, Canvas 2, and some others... Only the Motoko eps in Love Hina retain any meaning for me and even they have iffy animation and underpar dialog.
((the manga, with the exception of one or two books, is still stellar ... I'm liking the Shuffle! manga a lot as wel... though it is tedious for me to translate))

[npal]

Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

Come on KKK, you guys can't still be bitter over this kaede lost out on the Rin sweepstake but she won the Sia/kikkyou (2 for 1) prize instead

Oh goodie, how relieved that makes me Not that I cared whether Kaede got Rin after ep 21. I think the writers lost it long ago. Plus, I can't see how Rin can be a prize. The whole Asa scenario was weak to begin with, and they pushed aside some decent stuff to pull that, and that will never change for me. But the H-man was fun So, the final episode was not a TOTAL loss, as I am one of HHH leaders So, all in all... Ok let's see... we have let's say 8 as a start... We have Sia/Nerine/Primula arcs.. which would make that... 10... We have Sia dumped, so that's 8. We have character inconsistencies and plot holes, Nerine's arc practically non-existent + small amount of screentime for her... that's... 5, then. We have the weak winning arc... That's 4. And a, well I'll be extremely generous and say, so-so ending. So ok, that's 5/10 for Shuffle. Add Kaede's arc. Ok that's probably 7/10 for me. Ok, so, not a total loss of my time. Although I was being generous. I MIGHT watch the parts I did like at some point but to feel good for the whole thing is beyond my abilities.

[Pellissier]

Originally Posted by npal

Ok that's probably 7/10 for me. Ok, so, not a total loss of my time. Although I was being generous. I MIGHT watch the parts I did like at some point but to feel good for the whole thing is beyond my abilities.

Well, I'm not rating it seeing its single arcs. I judge the whole thing. I use my 6 given factors, ever identical (animation, sound, story, character, value, enjoyment). Now, it's not the proper place to talk of it, but I think I will be detracting a bit from story (the first 11 eps have nothing to do with the others, the last 4 were too messed up), chars and value. At first sight, the rate should be around 7.7/7.8 , since I'm usually lenient with rates this one is kinda low tough..
And no, I don't think it was wasted time. I've seen better harem than this, but also worse, so..

To get In Topic, I forgot to mention the open door that episode 24 leaves for the future. May it be an OVA series, or a 2nd series.
I don't know, Da Capo ended in a very close way to this, and it had a second season.

But I guess that for a commercially succesfull series as Shuffle, an OVA series will grant a lot more in terms of $ , higher budget will bring better artworks, more fans , and no new ideas on the scriptwriters .. take a whisk and shake it all... it's how harem are meant to work, after all.. "sigh"

[Last_Hope]

I don´t know if I want a second season or an OVA cause it feels like Kaede is totally out of the race for Rin now with him moving out of the house. I would rather have an open ending where everyone can decide for themselves.

Unless they throw in a new character that charm Kaede.

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Of course they could always make Rin realize how much he misses Kaede but doesn´t feel like that would happen though.

[Searcher]

Unless they throw in a new character that charm Kaede

Meet primula

[Guido]

I cannot figure out how does Asa's sudden growth of her hair relates to unleashing her magical powers?

[Floogy]

Originally Posted by Guido

I cannot figure out how does Asa's sudden growth of her hair relates to unleashing her magical powers?

It's 'magic'.

Last I checked, magic wasn't a logical thing. :P

[Vexx]

Except that Primula is pretty clearly at ramming speed straight for Rin (damn the other girls full speed ahead).... actually I find the implied Sia/Kaede connection more amusing in the notion that Rin is to blame for driving them together. And yes, I"m just being silly til I see the ep. I've decided to skip the raw and just wait for the fansubs .... bandwidth decision (downloading Lamune at the moment).

Hairgrowth: In Kamichu, the lead character's hair also gets insanely long when she uses magic. There are historically feminine traits to magic such that long hair associated with magic use kind of go together. You can probably write all sorts of ridiculous academic papers on the connections. For the purposes of the anime..... Asa's human body probably reacts to magic in that particular way. Note the demons just get funny eyes when they use magic.

[Ikusa_shounen]

I hope that they will make an 2nd season probly impossible but still...
something like D.C to --> D.C.S.S yeah ended good but still would be fun with the girls on more time...

/me hopes

[Searcher]

There will be an 2nd season, from what i have read the ending is an open one.

All i hope is that they won't make one like DCSS

[Vexx]

I don't count on second "anything" til I hear it announced.... however, Navel seems to be putting a lot of energy into this property so the odds are better than even I suppose.