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View Poll Results: Macross Frontier - Episode 05 Rating
Perfect 10 79 54.11%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 40 27.40%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 17 11.64%
7 out of 10 : Good 8 5.48%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 0.68%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 0.68%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2008-05-05, 02:35   Link #141
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Speaking of the locker scene, one of the things I've come to greatly appreciate about Macross Frontier is the sexual nature of Sheryl and Alto's relationship. Sure, a lot of was used for comedic effects but it also created a very nice sexual tension between the two which is another thing to contrast against the Ranka-Alto pairing. To be honest, I was not expecting sex to be a significant factor in the love triangle so I'm pleasantly surprised at this.
I always thought that she would be using her sex appeal but there's a lot more sexually tension so far than I thought it would be at this stage. While usually in anime the more sexual characters seem to lose out thankfully for Sheryl fans her and Alto have a lot in common and a bond aside from that.. which will get strengthened next episode.

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BTW Westlo, I visited 5 different forums looking for pics and I swear you were in each and every one of those forums.
Yeah as Herbert just pointed out I post on 5 forums now.. this one, AOD, ANN, MAL and now MW in addition to Omni (about time you started posting here Haesslich!) and psgels blogs. Though I'll say AS takes up more time than the rest combined and since I just repost thoughts most of the time (unless I want to point something out like I did in the MW thread.. still no response to that part of the post even though like 10 people said Sheryl affected the Varja before I said that ) it's not much more additional time.

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Oh, by the way, Westlo. You may try those Chinese forums if you can read Chinese. Sheryl is overwhelmingly popular over there (it had surprised me a lot when one my friend told me, I thought there would be more lolicons in China...). In a PlanetEden's (Chinese equivalent of MW) popularity poll for MF female characters (sadly the princess is excluded), Sheryl gets nearly thrice as many votes as Ranka does, nearly twice as many as all others combined.
That's interesting.. but I guess PlanetEden is for the old school fans I guess yeah if it's the equivalent of MW. Just for curiosities sake does anyone know who's more popular on 2ch between Ranka and Sheryl? I'll be amazed if it's Sheryl at this stage... especially since Ranka is "perfect" for the 2ch crowd.
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Old 2008-05-05, 03:13   Link #142
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The large number of Zentradis on Frontier have totally nixed the idea that the Varja are out to get Zentradis per se. When they attacked Ranka's ship 11 years ago, I think it was a targeted attack.
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Old 2008-05-05, 05:43   Link #143
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I don't know how many people have already saying this but I rate this episode 10 out 10 for Sherly.

I found some similiarities for character between Alto and Ranka or Alto and Sherly. Alto want to fly while Ranka want to sing and they found that they're somewhat lookalike in chasing their dream. For Alto and Sherly I found it that both of them wants to be look at of what they truly are in Sherly case it seems that she started to open up to Alto since he look at her not as some superdiva but (probably) as little bit Annoying and daring girl. Her kind of bitchy and arrogant attitude that she show few episode before probably because she feel fed up with people looking and expecting her as superdiva while her true personality is the one that we see at this episode. In Alto case he probably started to chase his dream to fly because his dad saw him as a piece of art only (evident from episode 4 when he look at Alto) that way he wants to show his dad what he capable of. I found it really interesting when Alto and sherly started to open up litlle bit to each other (while in ranka case I found it like he just want to protect her or something). Sherly still have her pride but open up alitlle bit while Alto started from being gloomy but started to enjoy thei date

Personally I would rather choose Sherly over Ranka for Alto if only Sherly were at least 3-4 years older than Alto then everything would be perfect (bias opinion ---> yay for Ichijo and Misa )
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Old 2008-05-05, 05:43   Link #144
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I dunno about that. If you're referring to the scene where she's in the car and being escorted out by the Cathy and the soldiers, then what were you expecting her to do?

She's a pop diva, not a military personnel nor a civilian with emergency response training. Being a high value 'asset' to the galaxy (cold as it is, it's reality) the best thing she could do is to follow Cathy's instructions and exit as quickly and quietly as possible without inciting panic among her fans. The worst thing she could do is hang around on stage, endangering herself and her fans, or begin issuing directions to the crowds which may be contrary to proper emergency evacuation protocols and could result in mass panic and stampedes.

If anything, ep 1 should show you that Sheryl handles herself fairly well when she's in a tight spot as seen when she recovers herself after the fall on stage.
When you combine that when ep 3's emergency shelter scene, we see that she's also not a defeatest and will fight/struggle till the end. These are very strong character traits which I'm honestly surprised to see in a female lead who maintains her femininity and sexuality.
Have you seen Hiroyuki Yoshino (M-F's Series composition)'s other works e.g Mai-HIME (Series composition) or Mai-Otome before (Series composition)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroyuk...creenwriter%29
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Old 2008-05-05, 05:49   Link #145
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Good points. I really didn't like minmay towards the end because of her attitude while Misa just cared more.

Just a minute ago I was thinking about the direction of Sheryl and Alto's relationships and I thought that Alto and Sheryl's relationship would get more development on personal level; perhaps some on-stage related stuff that alto-hime can relate to.

I agree that at this point Sheryl is a step ahead of Alto and Ranka on some level but with the fate of Galaxy she'll be spending more time with the two and we'll get to see the triangle develop. I'm curious to see how "Alto-hime" would come into play.
Note Hiroyuki Yoshino (as M-F 's series composition) other work is Mai-HIME(series composition)...
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Old 2008-05-05, 06:53   Link #146
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The large number of Zentradis on Frontier have totally nixed the idea that the Varja are out to get Zentradis per se. When they attacked Ranka's ship 11 years ago, I think it was a targeted attack.
They're attacking Galaxy and Galaxy doesn't have Zentradi as far as I know.
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Old 2008-05-05, 07:55   Link #147
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Wow at first i never thought i would say it but i think i actually prefer Sherly over Ranka. Watching her and Alto on their makeshift date was pleasant and amusing. Alto blushed more times than any girl in the series so far lol and needless to say the Lockerroom incident was just funny "dont put your cell phone in weird places" LMAO. So the Varja are interesting looks like it reacted to Ranka's singing and the shape of humanoid was outlined in the chest piece.

Not sure how the love triangle will go from here looks like Sheryl is leaving in the next episode but the Galaxy is under attack so i dont see why she would go back under those circumstances.

things that made me laugh

Writing lyrics on giant pink panties

Shopping mall for Zentradi
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Old 2008-05-05, 10:11   Link #148
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They're attacking Galaxy and Galaxy doesn't have Zentradi as far as I know.
Galaxy does have Zentradi but they are miclones and far fewer than Terrans or should I say New Edenites. (They left from New Eden.)


Each fleet has different population composition.

Macross 7 had million people with 10% of that are Zentradi miclones and far fewer giant Zentradi working on the ship Holywood.

Macross 5 had purely Zentradi population but all were miclones.

As explained in the openings of Macross 7 and Frontier most cultured Zentradi prefer to be micloned.

Though there are very special cases like Klein Klan.
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Old 2008-05-05, 11:26   Link #149
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after this episode I thought it would be neat if some japanese doujinshi writer wrote some ecchi manga about alto or michel x kuran kuran but the catch of course is that kuran is in giant form so the men would have to use their entire bodies to pleasure her or something.
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Old 2008-05-05, 12:06   Link #150
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What spell Ranka Lee use to summon artists to sing with her in this episode?
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Old 2008-05-05, 12:16   Link #151
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What spell Ranka Lee use to summon artists to sing with her in this episode?
As Rey said in Macross 7 Encore. They didn't plan it they just dropped by.

BOMBER!
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Old 2008-05-05, 13:28   Link #152
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Have you seen Hiroyuki Yoshino (M-F's Series composition)'s other works e.g Mai-HIME (Series composition) or Mai-Otome before (Series composition)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroyuk...creenwriter%29
Did you have a particular reason for adding that information? I find it especially puzzling since any Macross anime is going to have Kawamori's stamp all over it; easily overriding anyone else's input.

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Writing lyrics on giant pink panties
While it worked as a humorous moment; it works as a more serious characterization as well. When the muse strikes Sheryl, it instantly overwhelms her other concerns, and she had to write it down. Public embarassment and propriety (and legality ) be damned. This dovetails nicely with Ranka basically doing the same thing, albeit played out quite differently.

And it's not just the two of them. It's the same kind of drive that pushes Alto goal, and even Klein Klan empathized at once with what Sheryl did. All of these characters pursue their goals with a certain amount of abandon and perhaps a sense of recklessness. But that doesn't really matter because it's what they want to do, and those goals are paramount.

It also tells us that Sheryl writes her own lyrics. As an aside, this reminds me of what I've seen real-life writers talk about: they sometimes get an unstoppable urge to write - and it can come out at all sorts of weird times and places.
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Old 2008-05-05, 16:18   Link #153
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Yeah Kawamori is going to have the final say in everything.. should be obvious..

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It also tells us that Sheryl writes her own lyrics.
She's a self made star who's done everything for herself so it wasn't a surprise to see that, like she said in episode 3 "Everyone says I'm blessed with fortune, they're devaluing how much work I do!"
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Old 2008-05-05, 17:46   Link #154
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As Rey said in Macross 7 Encore. They didn't plan it they just dropped by.

BOMBER!

LOL.

Best explanation ever.
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Old 2008-05-05, 17:51   Link #155
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So sad, Ranka's heart is being broken by that pink haired bleep. Alto still managed to help Ranka along without knowing it. Now Sheryl has a competitor on more than 1 level. Ha ha ha!

Oh well, Ranka's singing is now approaching Basara's level. It brought that Vajra back to life and magically produces a backup band.

Cathy has mixed feelings about the breakup and Ozma's not feeling the same. It's time to move on Cathy.
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Cathy has mixed feelings about the breakup and Ozma's not feeling the same. It's time to move on Cathy.
Interesting way to it.

Despite looking like Misa , Cathy is displaying longing for a broken relatioship like Minmei for Hikaru.

Guess Leon is Kaifun in this series. In Macross it was the immature incest causing Minmei to lose Hikaru. Here in Frontier Cathy is disatisfied with a guy who sees her as a midnight nookie.
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Old 2008-05-05, 18:08   Link #157
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So sad, Ranka's heart is being broken by that pink haired bleep.
Yeah how could Sheryl kiss Alto instead of Ranka
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Old 2008-05-05, 18:10   Link #158
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Ranka is too good for the pink haired one.

Edit: Doesn't this remind you guys of how Basara started out? He was singing on the streets too.
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Old 2008-05-05, 18:45   Link #159
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Ranka is too good for the pink haired one.

Edit: Doesn't this remind you guys of how Basara started out? He was singing on the streets too.
More like the mountains lol!
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Old 2008-05-05, 19:24   Link #160
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Hey what did the guy in the plane say in the very end?
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