(L) Negima Manga Discussion

[Sian]

while She Might not know zip 'bout magic i do believe that she would know which school Mei attends

[Tiresias]

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

Her little sister is currently in a stripperific shadow dress against her will.

Not for long~~~

On another note:
The wedding is in 2005, Negima is set in 2003.

Where was this stated? And IIRC manga Negima has been through two summer vacations, so that would mean that the two are definitely not on the same continuity...

On a side note, I wonder if Tsuruko(?)'s appearance has anything to do with the recent Love Hina special chapter?

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by Tiresias

Not for long~~~



Where was this stated? And IIRC manga Negima has been through two summer vacations, so that would mean that the two are definitely not on the same continuity...

On a side note, I wonder if Tsuruko(?)'s appearance has anything to do with the recent Love Hina special chapter?

1 summer vacation, their current one. By the time the next one rolls around the series is suppose to be over.

[TnAdct1]

Originally Posted by Tiresias

Where was this stated? And IIRC manga Negima has been through two summer vacations, so that would mean that the two are definitely not on the same continuity...

On Negima being set in 2003: there's a couple of things that prove that:

1. Most of Negi's students are born in 1988 and 1989, meaning that they'd be in their third year of middle school in 2003;

2. Sometimes when Nodoka uses the Diarium Ejus, the date and the day of the week are included with the image and text that appear in the book, with the date and day of the week matching the 2003 calendar (of course, Del-Ray screwed this up somewhat when they released volume 5 of Negima, the first volume to feature the Diarium Ejus in America).

On two summer vacations: if you mean the bit in volume 7, that wasn't their summer break. That was Golden Week, a period in May where a number of Japanese holidays take place. Given Ayaka's rich background, her family is able to afford a tropical place for Negi and his students to spend their Golden Week vacation at.

[Tiresias]

Originally Posted by TnAdct1

On two summer vacations: if you mean the bit in volume 7, that wasn't their summer break. That was Golden Week, a period in May where a number of Japanese holidays take place. Given Ayaka's rich background, her family is able to afford a tropical place for Negi and his students to spend their Golden Week vacation at.

Sorry about the summer thing, I think the official manga I've bought fumbled the line on chapter 200 page 19


Now that I think about it, two summer vacations would've made them first grade senior high (sorry, I don't know the proper english term)...

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by Tiresias

Now that I think about it, two summer vacations would've made them first grade senior high (sorry, I don't know the proper english term)...

"Senior High Freshman" is the correct term (at least in the US, although Senior High has four grades in the US, so they would actually be freshmen now), but you got the point across. The series as occurs at Mahora has run from January or February 2003 until the current time in-story, which I believe is still late August in Mahora, and early October in MW. 2003, either way. Hell, Negi may not have even reached his ninth birthday yet, in-story, but that's a dead horse of a different color...

[93143]

Originally Posted by TnAdct1

Sometimes when Nodoka uses the Diarium Ejus, the date and the day of the week are included with the image and text that appear in the book, with the date and day of the week matching the 2003 calendar (of course, Del-Ray screwed this up somewhat when they released volume 5 of Negima, the first volume to feature the Diarium Ejus in America).

Ha! It's true! Chuang Yi has "April 24, Thursday", and the Meow scan says "24th of April, Thursday" - but Del Rey says Wednesday. I always thought Volume 5 was one of their most carelessly translated...

[ReddyRedWolf]

My take on this Tsukuyomi stole the Hina in 2003. This would explain her shift to a Yangire.

Motoko still had the Hina in 2001. Now Tsuruko said to young Setsuna the Kyoto Magic Association lent them the sword.

How can we reconcile this being a Urashima family heirloom? As evidenced by Keitaro's Cursed Pen that can take on the Hina the Urashima's have a capacity to curse objects. For that matter the Love Annex as well.

Centuries ago Kyoto burned because somebody got possessed by the Hina. It was contained and held in safe keeping by the Kyoto Magic Association.

Now Hinata Inn is located at Kanagawa this makes it the Kanto area, territory of the Kanto Magic Association.

Possibly as a gesture of good faith the Hina was returned to the Urashima clan.

Judging by the abilities of the Urashima females, the Urashimaryuu, the layout of Hinata, and that ninja outfit Keitaro wore the family is pretty much in the masquerade.

Grandma Hina may have reputation herself as she was once called by Motoko, The Demon of Hinata.

[Gearhead]

The Shinmei School seems to be more proactive, inclined to teach people outside the main family line techniques. Keitaro's family, meanwhile, seems to be more insular. If I was to take a wild stab at it, I'd predict that the Urashima are either a failed branch school that's narrowed down to a single family line or a related clan that's fallen on hard times.

[TnAdct1]

After reading comments about the other part of chapter 303

Spoiler for 303:

(aka the bit where Kotarou's group comes across Fate), I'm starting to wonder, given how Fate can access Kansai Association areas freely (as it appeares that he tried to break Kotarou out of jail during the time he was arrested for his involvement in the events of the Kyoto arc, only for Kotarou to refuse), if the person who stole Hina wasn't Tsukuyomi, but rather Fate (who then gave the sword to Tsukuyomi in preparation for any attacks during their attempt to destroy the Magic World).

[ReddyRedWolf]

Originally Posted by Gearhead

The Shinmei School seems to be more proactive, inclined to teach people outside the main family line techniques. Keitaro's family, meanwhile, seems to be more insular. If I was to take a wild stab at it, I'd predict that the Urashima are either a failed branch school that's narrowed down to a single family line or a related clan that's fallen on hard times.

The Urashima clan have their own style called Urashimaryuu. As demonstrated by Kanako it has Ki based attacks, projectile and ki projectile defense, bone manipulating disguise technique, and various rope binding techniques.

Keitaro in ninja outfit used what he called Urashima style underwater technique trying to sneak on Tsuroko.

Plus the Urashima clan seems to have things cursed. The mentioned Yuuto Hina which gave the Shinmeiryuu trouble, Keitaro's cursed pen filled with so much negative energy it is on par with the Hina, the Love Annex where its magic makes sure two persons end up together if there is a confession which they had to close because it caused two guys to be together.

[BubbleGumCrisis]

I need to give Love Hina another read cause I've nearly forgotten everything.

[ReddyRedWolf]

LOL Tsuroko herself got possessed by the Hina.

[AlaAlba]

one thing. GRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!! Akamatsu it's only 14 pages damnit! where are the other 4 pages!
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[TnAdct1]

Originally Posted by AlaAlba

one thing. GRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!! Akamatsu it's only 14 pages damnit! where are the other 4 pages!
> >

Given how there's a lot going on in Negima at the moment (and the huge amount of detail the Ken Akamatsu and his crew puts into the story), it's sometimes hard for Ken to finish an 18 page chapter in time for the deadline (especially when it comes to chapters that take place before a "break week"). Hence, it's normal for some chapters to be cut short by 2 or 4 pages in order to cut Ken some slack.

Besides, Ken's making up for the short chapter by actually having the current volume that's being covered in Shounen Magazine (volume 33) consist of ten chapters instead of the usual nine (with the final chapter of volume 33 being the next chapter).

[al103]

Originally Posted by AlaAlba

one thing. GRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!! Akamatsu it's only 14 pages damnit! where are the other 4 pages!
> >

Akamatsu make 14 pages a week. We usually get 17-19 because of pages made in "break" weeks which are not really break ones. When "break" week is really have some break days we get 14 page chapters.

[karthak]

Originally Posted by GreatTeacherKen

Maybe you can give her a preview some snippets of later parts of the manga like the Negi vs. Jack Rakan fight or the Magic World arc in general and see if that gets her interested. If that doesn't get her interested then I guess the manga's just not for her.

I'll try. The biggest stumbling block is the ridiculous amount of fan-service. She can stand it as little as I can, but she's less adept at filtering it out.

[TnAdct1]

Originally Posted by GreatTeacherKen

Maybe you can give her a preview some snippets of later parts of the manga like the Negi vs. Jack Rakan fight or the Magic World arc in general and see if that gets her interested. If that doesn't get her interested then I guess the manga's just not for her.

My personal recommendation for a "preview volume" is volume 5. Yes, I'm very well aware that this is the volume where Nodoka (my favorite Negima girl) makes her Pactio. However, the Nodoka aspect is only part of why I recommend this volume. Among the reasons for recommending this volume as a sampler volume:

-It actually shows the change from harem comedy to shounen title (as the first third is a harem comedy storyline that is actually important to the story, while the rest of the volume has some shounen action in it).

-The Pactio system get fleshed out here (with the aforementioned Pactio taking place, the introduction of the "copy card" system that allows a Ministra Magi to summon his/her artifact if the Magister is not around, and the bonus pages explaining the various pieces of information on a Pactio card).

-Plenty of action time for Negi and four of the five "main" girls in the series (the fifth, due to the fact that she can't leave the school without special permission, only appears in flashback in this volume).

-The volume introduces a couple of male characters that play important roles later on.

-Of all the volumes of Negima, this one seems to be the tamest when it comes to fanservice, with only one topless moment (that I noticed) and a few panty shots (with at least three of the panty shot instances being an equivilent to a henshin sequence IMO).

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by TnAdct1

My personal recommendation for a "preview volume" is volume 5. Yes, I'm very well aware that this is the volume where Nodoka (my favorite Negima girl) makes her Pactio. However, the Nodoka aspect is only part of why I recommend this volume. Among the reasons for recommending this volume as a sampler volume:

-It actually shows the change from harem comedy to shounen title (as the first third is a harem comedy storyline that is actually important to the story, while the rest of the volume has some shounen action in it).

-The Pactio system get fleshed out here (with the aforementioned Pactio taking place, the introduction of the "copy card" system that allows a Ministra Magi to summon his/her artifact if the Magister is not around, and the bonus pages explaining the various pieces of information on a Pactio card).

-Plenty of action time for Negi and four of the five "main" girls in the series (the fifth, due to the fact that she can't leave the school without special permission, only appears in flashback in this volume).

-The volume introduces a couple of male characters that play important roles later on.

-Of all the volumes of Negima, this one seems to be the tamest when it comes to fanservice, with only one topless moment (that I noticed) and a few panty shots (with at least three of the panty shot instances being an equivilent to a henshin sequence IMO).

And most importantly for American readers, Volume 5 is where Del Rey abandoned the "adaptation" tack and started actually translating honestly. How successful that translation job has been is arguable, but it was better than the "adaptation".

[Sian]

raws for 304 is out

Spoiler:

epic battle between Tsukuyomi and Setsuna.
Dynamis 'grows' to a more deathly opponent
Ako plays with Drugs, looking somewhat like Accela (SE: Lain)
Yuuna, Shiori!Asuna and Makie nails Koyomi with help of Ako's drugs