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MeoTwister5 · 2011-08-25, 05:19

Do governments actually support the DeBeer's monopoly on diamonds?

SaintessHeart · 2011-08-25, 05:21

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Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

Do governments actually support the DeBeer's monopoly on diamonds?

If the cut they give the governments are large (read : corporate tax), why not?

Gamer_2k4 · 2011-08-25, 10:16

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Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

Do governments actually support the DeBeer's monopoly on diamonds?

Actually, no, not in the US anyway. There have been all sorts of anti-trust issues with them, and for a while their executives wouldn't even come to America for fear of being arrested on sight.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/10/bu...l?pagewanted=2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Beer..._fixing_prices

Vexx · 2011-08-25, 13:03

At this point in the US.... diamonds almost have a sort of "hey, you're wearing real fur" taint to them in the general public because of the blood diamond issues. People buying diamonds are tending to ask where they came from, jewelers try to at least pretend, and many people (like us) have never even purchased one -- they were all inherited.

Ithekro · 2011-08-25, 13:09

We get diamonds out of Arkansas as well.

JMvS · 2011-08-25, 18:37

Canada and Australia are also big producers (and they have traceable labels).

Ithekro · 2011-08-25, 20:34

Speaking of Diamonds: A Planet of Diamonds

It would be silly to try and get it though, since it is moving so fast...(aside from it being 4,000 light years away.)

Xellos-_^ · 2011-08-25, 20:49

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

Speaking of Diamonds: A Planet of Diamonds

It would be silly to try and get it though, since it is moving so fast...(aside from it being 4,000 light years away.)

i think some scientist theorize that the core of Jupiter is made entirely of diamonds.

Rising Dragon · 2011-08-25, 21:08

Pardon me for being uninformed on the matter, but can someone explain to me the "blood diamond issues"?

Vexx · 2011-08-25, 21:19

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Pardon me for being uninformed on the matter, but can someone explain to me the "blood diamond issues"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_diamond
http://www.un.org/peace/africa/Diamond.html

Rising Dragon · 2011-08-25, 21:20

... oh. That kind of diamond.

Xellos-_^ · 2011-08-25, 21:26

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Originally Posted by Vexx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_diamond
http://www.un.org/peace/africa/Diamond.html

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

... oh. That kind of diamond.

and all the water of Yangtz won't be enough wash the blood form DeBeers diamonds.

ganbaru · 2011-08-25, 22:18

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and all the water of Yangtz won't be enough wash the blood form DeBeers diamonds.

That or all the PR they could pay...

Ithekro · 2011-08-25, 22:29

I seem to recall the subject of a diamond core came up in the novel 2010 (or if not, 2061 for sure). The blood diamonds didn't quite come up in 2061, but the diamond trade and South Africa came up involving terrorism in space due to the speculation of a mountain of diamond in the "former" Jovian system.

ganbaru · 2011-08-26, 22:13

Was killer whale hit by boat _ or is she pregnant?
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...08-26-21-15-47

Haak · 2011-08-27, 17:53

The Life of a British Ninja:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-14689055

ganbaru · 2011-08-27, 22:54

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The Life of a British Ninja:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-14689055

Somehow, I don't think it's such great idea. A good initiative, but something like a group might be better.

SaintessHeart · 2011-08-29, 23:28

How to hack like a News of the World reporter (3:10)

Sometimes, when all you need is to enable a password protection to prevent your VM from being spoofed, it is strange to understand why people still get their phones hacked.

Vexx · 2011-08-29, 23:46

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How to hack like a News of the World reporter (3:10)

Sometimes, when all you need is to enable a password protection to prevent your VM from being spoofed, it is strange to understand why people still get their phones hacked.

I assumed that most of the "hackees" had left their voicemail boxes in factory defaults. Hell... the number of "linksys" clouds I wander through (no encryption) never ceases to amaze/amuse me.

Technology is becoming less "clueless survivable".

SaintessHeart · 2011-08-29, 23:48

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I assumed that most of the "hackees" had left their voicemail boxes in factory defaults. Hell... the number of "linksys" clouds I wander through (no encryption) never ceases to amaze/amuse me.

Technology is becoming less "clueless survivable".

As I have checked just now, there are 4 people in my block who did not encrypt their wireless and I can pick up their connections.

Seriously, all the software security companies can set up all the most complex parameters to secure your data, but ultimately, the person running the server is still the weakest link. I remember reading about an article where NSA spooks left thumbdrives in the carpark for their staff to pick up, and see which idiot is dumb enough to plug it into a secure network.

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