Amagami SS - Episode 24 Discussion / Poll

[DragoZERO]

I can't believe I am so late this time, agh.

So everything has been said but I have to say... that kid was pretty old, they wasted no time there, haha.

And Haruka really was... hhnngghh.. amazing.

[Sumeragi]

Originally Posted by DragoZERO

So everything has been said but I have to say... that kid was pretty old, they wasted no time there, haha..

Not really, I suspect they married right out of university.

[justinstrife]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Not really, I suspect they married right out of university.

Which is not unusual at all. Heck with Tsukasa, she wouldn't understand the point of waiting once they had graduated and probably was already planning their futures.

[Sumeragi]

Originally Posted by justinstrife

Which is not unusual at all. Heck with Tsukasa, she wouldn't understand the point of waiting once they had graduated and probably was already planning their futures.

Similar to me

[DragoZERO]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Not really, I suspect they married right out of university.

I pictured her as someone who'd want a secure job and income first... but maybe it's a cultural thing.

[Sumeragi]

Originally Posted by DragoZERO

I pictured her as someone who'd want a secure job and income first... but maybe it's a cultural thing.

I picture her as "Hell, I'm going to be with Junichi no matter what!" aggressive type of girl. This is partly why I love Tsukasa, sinec we're so similar (right down to the cynical, manipulative, and cunning personality)

[justinstrife]

Originally Posted by DragoZERO

I pictured her as someone who'd want a secure job and income first... but maybe it's a cultural thing.

That depends on how her goals and dreams changed once our stud(or lack of) of a main character steals her heart away.

[grandchaosSR]

Originally Posted by Himeji

Besides that, the ending bears a very wrong message: "You can treat a girl like a jerk, giving her a big trauma, but there's nothing wrong treating her like that. You don't need to apologise to her or feel sorry afterwards, as you'll still live happily ever after regardless."

So I guess Junichi in Tsukasa arc is his worst version yet. Anyway its the writers fault if they botched the ending. They have been cramming too many themes/scenes in an episode since Ai arc...

Originally Posted by DragoZERO

I pictured her as someone who'd want a secure job and income first... but maybe it's a cultural thing.

Yeah I thought she's the type that would plan her future first rather than "go for it attitude"...

[Knightrunner]

Tsukasa probably planned everything. She got the kid, income, and job all at the same time.

[Mentar]

Originally Posted by grandchaosSR

So I guess Junichi in Tsukasa arc is his worst version yet. Anyway its the writers fault if they botched the ending. They have been cramming too many themes/scenes in an episode since Ai arc...

I need to disagree here: In the Tsukasa arc, we see Junichi at his best. Yes, he botched a key exchange leading to Tsukasa misunderstanding his intention completely, but other than that, he was doing very well. It's also the first arc in which Junichi makes a mature conscious decision for a girl that is NOT born out of a mere crush or simple lust. A linkup on eye level.

His post-hug confession-explanation was excellent, and his "Thank god. The Ayatsuji-san I love still exists" line was just the perfect pick. Chapeau!

[Sumeragi]

Originally Posted by Knightrunner

Tsukasa probably planned everything. She got the kid, income, and job all at the same time.

Precisely. She is a cunning little vixen, after all

[Divini]

Wow, the awesomeness of those "10 years later" scenes makes me wish so much they did it for Kaoru, Sae, Ai, and Rihoko.... especially Rihoko.

[soranarumi]

Originally Posted by Mentar

His post-hug confession-explanation was excellent, and his "Thank god. The Ayatsuji-san I love still exists" line was just the perfect pick. Chapeau!

Yeah, it is still the same warm-heart-Juunichi after all. He looks awful at the first time, but he show a good development on Ayatsuji arc.

[Seiryuu]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Not really, I suspect they married right out of university.

Since they were 2nd years in HS, assuming they went to university immediately that would mean they married 5 years after the story, 5 years before the scene with the daughter. That girl is not a mere 4 1/2 years old. I could see her as 7 or 8, which would mean they married and conceived pretty much right after graduating highschool.

And I don't think Junichi was bad or insensitive to suggest that Tsukasa apologize. Remember that her outburst had turned many of the students against her and limited the help to just a few people. Tsukasa was already stressed and exhausted, which probably added to her sudden decision to drop the facade in front of the whole class. This meant that there weren't enough people working to get the job done. Junichi just didn't want Tsukasa to overwork herself again and get sick, and since he knew that even if he worked all night every night it wouldn't be enough to stop that, so he suggested for her sake that she swallow her pride and try to get the people to help once more. I'm sorry but in this case a loved one's life is more important than her feelings.

[Itlandm]

I respectfully disagree with "Junichi version 6 is the worst" which some of you have argued. Yes, there is epic fail, but he also has redeeming qualities. I am not sure when he signed up for the committee, but it seems to be several weeks that he has worked together with Dark Tsukasa, knowing perfectly well that her perfect iincho personality was a facade, and yet he did his best to help her and enjoyed spending time with her. If we assume he is not a masochist, that is quite something after you've been physically and verbally assaulted, blackmailed and worked like a horse, all by an unrepentant hypocrite. Give him some credit for that at least.

[Kusa-San]

Juncihi was great in this arc and he was cool in this episode. He was not the wost version in this arc, he was the best version. What he said to Aayatsuji during episode 24 was good and true and that's why Ayatsuji was happy and kissed him after that. Saying he treated her badly when she was happy doesn't make any sense.

And wth with this "Ayatsuji planned eveything for the baby" like it's something bad They're in love so yes they want a baby. I don't see the problem at all. And as I said in another thread, I don't see the problem for Ayatsuji to be pregnant at 18 years old or something like that. If it's what she want and if they're happy like that, then it's fine.

JunichiXAyatsuji ftw !

[Sumeragi]

Originally Posted by Seiryuu

Since they were 2nd years in HS, assuming they went to university immediately that would mean they married 5 years after the story, 5 years before the scene with the daughter. That girl is not a mere 4 1/2 years old. I could see her as 7 or 8, which would mean they married and conceived pretty much right after graduating highschool.

I see her has about 5 years old, though. I guess unless we can agree on the daugther's age, we'll continue arguing about when they married.

[Seiryuu]

Originally Posted by Kusa-San

Juncihi was great in this arc and he was cool in this episode. He was not the wost version in this arc, he was the best version. What he said to Aayatsuji during episode 24 was good and true and that's why Ayatsuji was happy and kissed him after that. Saying he treated her badly when she was happy doesn't make any sense.

And wth with this "Ayatsuji planned eveything for the baby" like it's something bad They're in love so yes they want a baby. I don't see the problem at all. And as I said in another thread, I don't see the problem for Ayatsuji to be pregnant at 18 years old or something like that. If it's what she want and if they're happy like that, then it's fine.

JunichiXAyatsuji ftw !

No problem, it just seems a little fast. If Chibi Tsukasa is 5, then she's a little tall for her age. If she was born when Junichi and Tsukasa were 18, that means they really rushed into getting married the moment they graduated, and then immediately tried to have a kid. I've been to college, and it's not an easy life even as a childless bachelor. That's one of the reasons a lot of people wait to have kids, and often even wait to marry. Although, at the same time, college would explain why that girl doesn't have any siblings. Even if they were overeager to start a family and had a kid within a year of graduation, they probably had no choice but to try and keep from having more until they graduated college, otherwise they'd never afford to GO to college.
Of course, the girl might have been a surprise. I only know of one couple who'd had a kid while in college, and the child was proof that properly-used protection still isn't a 100% guarantee.

[Sumeragi]

Originally Posted by Seiryuu

No problem, it just seems a little fast. If Chibi Tsukasa is 5, then she's a little tall for her age.

Really? Assuming Junichi is the height of an average Japanese male, the daughter is around the height of a 5 year old. I was probably around her height when I was 4

[grandchaosSR]

Originally Posted by Mentar

I need to disagree here: In the Tsukasa arc, we see Junichi at his best. Yes, he botched a key exchange leading to Tsukasa misunderstanding his intention completely, but other than that, he was doing very well. It's also the first arc in which Junichi makes a mature conscious decision for a girl that is NOT born out of a mere crush or simple lust. A linkup on eye level.

His post-hug confession-explanation was excellent, and his "Thank god. The Ayatsuji-san I love still exists" line was just the perfect pick. Chapeau!

Himeji already pointed out Junichi's flaws in this arc.