2008-07-26, 05:15 | Link #421 |
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Well the Kishin was very weak from being released, in fact it seems that team Medusa may have been planning to kill him themselves acourding to a comment made by Ms. Frog, as it stands I think Death sr and the Kishin were basicly at the same level power wise and I don't think that alone either one would be able to beat the other. The Kishin's main advantage was that Death sr is stuck in the city all he had to do was get far enuff away and he was safe. I'm also not quite sure the Death we saw was his true body or even that he has one anymore.
You know i'm starting to wonder what Medusa's goal realy is. Chrona steals the souls ment to give power to the Kishin from the Duchman. Ms Frog comments to Free that Medusa plans on killing the weaked Kishin while they are going to free it.
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2008-07-26, 07:55 | Link #422 |
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I think Medusa's original goal was to release Kishin Asura and deal with the ensuing chaos in some way or another that would benefit her, possibly by continuing her experiments on Chrona to have her own little Kishin under her control. Chrona/Ragnarok were definitely connected to the Kishin resurrection plan initially, but the tables have since turned.
Maka and Soul have been affected by the black blood - and Medusa's reaction to that, turning it to her advantage demonstrated her ability to adapt. Similarly, BJ's arrival on the scene produced a new threat which Medusa most likely had something to do with eliminating. I think the theory's been around for some time that Maka's the one who will develop the advanced soul perception ability, meaning she's even more at threat from Medusa. Clearly, Medusa's had to change her plans thanks to having her body destroyed by Stein and DS. The period before she possessed that poor little girl obviously gave her the time to regroup, strengthen and above all plan. I think although getting 'killed' down in the bottom of Shibusen throw the Gorgon for a bit, Medusa's clearly got some new/altered goal in mind. Otherwise, she wouldn't be dealing so directly and confidently with Arachne and Shinigami, both of whom have good reason to kill her. It seems she's playing them both to her own advantage. But why...I'm not sure at the moment. I hope we'll find out more in the coming chapters. |
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2008-07-28, 01:54 | Link #427 | |
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Even if a direct threat to Death City turns up in the next few chapters, I reckon Shinigami's going to stay in the background, away from the action, until it's absolutely necessary for him to intervene. I think it's pretty inevitable we will see Shinigami and Death Scythe eventually, but not for a while yet. |
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2008-07-28, 01:59 | Link #428 | |
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I'd also like to see more background on Death the Kid. So far all that's really been explained is how he met Liz and Patty. At least that's all I remember despite it being a very short time since I read all the manga o.o |
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2008-07-28, 20:08 | Link #429 | |
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2008-07-29, 19:13 | Link #432 |
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I noticed that too, but I can't tell if similar hair means anything or not. The pattern of the lighter parts in Asura's hair seems to be an imitation of that eye in his forehead. I don't know about a connection between Kid and Asura. They might both just have unique hair, or maybe Asura's his uncle. o.O
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2008-07-30, 09:55 | Link #435 |
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Kid would never join with Asura, he'd probably sooner die than embrace that sort of chaos. That said, as I've probably said elsewhere, the idea of the little death god going dark-side on us is rather entertaining...
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2008-07-31, 11:38 | Link #438 |
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Asura does look like Kidd, I noticed that when he finally appeared. Id love to think Asura is somehow related but he referred to Shinigami-sama as "Sensei" in the manga (assuming decent translation) Now I know relatives can do that but I figured it Asura was completely related to Shinigam-sama, he'd have used a different term. But he and Shinigami-sama are connected whether it be related or just Sensei/Student.
It was brought up on Random Curiousity (I think) that is Shinigami-sama just a tech in a mask? Since Kid wore the same mask at the beginning of epi 15 cuz when I saw that part in the manga I was like...WHOA! We already know he needs a weapon to defeat Asura and we know Shinigami-sama has changed his mask since starting Shibusen, so...since Kid is well...human-like yet a death-god. Is SS (this is my abbrev for Shinigami-sama now) the same? We talked about humans and weapons breeding but can death gods? Or was Kid created some other way? How does one breed a god? I dont think SS is human looking or atleast totally human looking, but since he's SS he could be anything. I should really be in the speculations thread for this...also if anyone does actually know what SS is (since Ive seen spoilers but not clicked them) since this is the manga thread you can discuss it but dear gawd, plz label them so I (or others) dont accidently spoil ourselves.
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2008-07-31, 12:07 | Link #439 |
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The thing about SS being just a Tech in a mask is that he and Kid appear physiologically different to the other characters, rather than simply stronger than they are.
The most obvious example of this how Kid talks to his father in his prologue chapter, and summons his skateboard on numerous occasions. His body is also immune to sunburn and rejects things like hair-dye. For his part, Shinigami's design is radically different to that of any other character, appearing briefly during the Asura fight to have no depth to him whatsoever. He also fights without a Weapon in a way that no-one else had, and only Kid - through his own little skull-ish shadows - appears to have the potential to. The way Stein describes Kid during the fight with BS and Soul also makes it sound as though he is significantly different to the other students in more than just power; the look of his soul also supports this, for the 'skull' theme for Kid and his father seems to be more than just decorative. Nowhere in the manga have we (yet) seen one of the human characters display similar abilities as Shinigami and Kid. On the contrary, I think that considering the aspects mentioned above there is more evidence to suggest that they are not human, merely appearing that way to some extent. However, the absence of much information that this father-and-son pair of gods are human doesn't entirely dismiss the possibility; after all, there is much that the author has yet to reveal about the SE universe and its characters. |
2008-07-31, 13:26 | Link #440 |
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It could be that Shinigami is actually in another dimension so he uses that skull thing as an embodiment of his actual soul, since his soul is chained to the thing but that might be the hardest thing to explain
Maybe SS really is human but that cloak hides him in another world (yes I am obsessed with this another dimension theory) I mean if Kidd can make a skateboard come out of his hands then this is just as logical, Shinigami could control the cloak to use as a shell for his own soul. Could be his actual human body was seperated from his soul a long time ago. |
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