(L) Sora no Woto

[MeoTwister5]

Originally Posted by Hypernova

My impression is that Kureha doesn't realise the whole tech regression situation (in context of the setting nor would you expect her to). It's very possible that HQ didn't send spare parts because there simply aren't any.

When parts and raw materials are scarce, rationality dictates that you should get all the parts that you can into one place and make as many complete tanks as you can with the bare minimum that you have, and save them for times and places that you would need them the most. Think Germany 1944.

If the case were that there simply aren't any parts and they can't make any more, it doesn't make sense for the girls to have an incomplete tank that is never likely to be made whole and useful. The army would be better off with their resources taking the parts the girls have and sending them to units who can use them as replacements for already irreplacable material.

To me, the fact that they have half a tank in their leaky hangar says that they do have some parts, but not enough for everyone that they aren't giving the girls the parts needed to complete one likely because HQ thinks they'll never use it.

[Hypernova]

Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

When parts and raw materials are scarce, rationality dictates that you should get all the parts that you can into one place and make as many complete tanks as you can with the bare minimum that you have, and save them for times and places that you would need them the most. Think Germany 1944.

If the case were that there simply aren't any parts and they can't make any more, it doesn't make sense for the girls to have an incomplete tank that is never likely to be made whole and useful. The army would be better off with their resources taking the parts the girls have and sending them to units who can use them as replacements for already irreplacable material.

To me, the fact that they have half a tank in their leaky hangar says that they do have some parts, but not enough for everyone that they aren't giving the girls the parts needed to complete one likely because HQ thinks they'll never use it.

In that case the logical thing is as you suggest take the tank away from the girls and give them something they can actually use. Either a smaller tank that actually works or some RPG or mortars.

They are still technically a front line unit guarding the boarder, you either give them something them can use right off that bat or you don't give it to them.

[MeoTwister5]

Well they have... uh... looks like bolt action rifles and Lugers I think, which really clashes a lot with the tank that looks rather futuristic. Either tank technology was at some point so far ahead and away compared to the rest of military tech, or the girls are really just getting the ass end of military weaponry.

[Hypernova]

Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

Well they have... uh... looks like bolt action rifles and Lugers I think, which really clashes a lot with the tank that looks rather futuristic. Either tank technology was at some point so far ahead and away compared to the rest of military tech, or the girls are really just getting the ass end of military weaponry.

But there's a huge gap between MG's/Rifles and tanks. Realistically you should at least have some grenades. The list that was read off was all guns guns guns. And no mention of how much ammo for them.

And come to think of it, what about shells for the tank? If they aren't given any then it can be assumed that HQ never intended them to use it.

[davie]

Watched the first episode but I'm not sure where the anime is headed. Is it going to involve gun fights or is it just slice-of-life type of deal with the girl soldiers? Wasn't horrible as others have said, but I'm not too keen on character (moe) centered anime with little to no plot.

It looks promising but cannot be sure yet. I guess I have to watch the 2nd episode :-p.

[felix]

Originally Posted by Hypernova

But there's a huge gap between MG's/Rifles and tanks. Realistically you should at least have some grenades. The list that was read off was all guns guns guns. And no mention of how much ammo for them.

And come to think of it, what about shells for the tank? If they aren't given any then it can be assumed that HQ never intended them to use it.

You are thinking too much, its clouding your judgment; time will answer all questions.

[scr]

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

I just want to post something. The likely origins of the Fire maiden story, based on a mythological story from the "Dai" people of China. Here translated from a book I owned, that I also posted in 4 chan:

Spoiler for The story of the water splashing festival:

The Water Splashing festival is the time when everyone stray water at each other. This isn't to keep cool, nor is it about Hygiene. There was a mythical reason for it.

Once upon a time, there was a demon. Violent and cruel, he kill whenever he likes, do whatever he likes. He is extremely powerful, invulnerable to weapons, fire or drowning. He often gather slaves and treasures from the surrounding villages, but no one could defeat him.

The demon is extremely perverted, and had a harem of 6 women he had kidnapped. Each was more beautiful than the last, but he still wasn't satisfied.
So he kidnapped his 7th woman. This new wife, however, he became attached to. She is extraordinarily beautiful, and very charismatic. She knows exactly what to say and do to keep him happy.

One night, when the 7th wife caught the demon in a particularly good mood, she tried to test him.
"I heard you are so powerful, that you can't be drowned, fire can't burn you, and weapons can't harm you. Then surely you will live on for an eternity?"

"That's not quite true, I have my weakness!" Said the demon.

"How could it be? You are so powerful, what could you possibly be afraid of?" Asked the 7th wife.

"This, I will tell only to you." The demon whispered. "I fear others strangling me with my own hair"

"You fear nothing in the Heavens or on Earth, why would a strand of hair scare you?"

"Don't underestimate my thin stands of hair. They could strangle me!" Said the demon, at an even lower whisper.

The 7th wife grinned to herself, and think "If a mere stand of hair could strangle him, then it would be for the best. It would spare many other women in the future."

She waited until he fell into a deep sleep (the original Chinese words may or may not imply it was after sex, you know how traditional folklores try to hide things like this.), and then lightly plucked a strand of his hair, then wrapped it around the demon's neck.

As soon as she pulled the hair, the demon's head came off cleanly.

The 7th wife was pleased that she slayed the demon, yet the decapitated head suddenly rolled to the ground, and flames erupted where it land. And then monsters spawned from the flames.

The 7th wife screamed in fear. The other wives heard her cry, and rushed to her aid. One of the braver and more intelligent of the women decided to pick up the head off the ground. Surprisingly, as soon as the demon head left the ground, the flames and the monsters vanished.

The wives dared not to put the head down anymore, so they took turns carrying the head. With each wife carrying for one year. Before the demon truly died, the head often bleeds. Therefore, on the day when the head was passed from one wife to another, everyone spray water on her, both to wash way the blood, and to prevent the formation of flames.
This went on every year, with the water spraying done seven times, one per wife, before the demon's head finally expired.

From then on, every year on the same day, everyone spray water at each other. And it is called the water-spray festival.

The End.
"Myths and Legends of China" Reader's Digest Association Far East Limited 1987 ISBN 962-258-069-6

Page 112.

Cool story bro.
I'm going to look into it. Spiders aside, that story seems to be pivotal if we're to guess the direction of this anime.

[Chrono Helix]

When Rio was being told 'you shouldn't eat that owl, look at what's our logo' I found myself thinking 'the logo looks like an owl... on skewers.'

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

Well they have... uh... looks like bolt action rifles and Lugers I think, which really clashes a lot with the tank that looks rather futuristic. Either tank technology was at some point so far ahead and away compared to the rest of military tech, or the girls are really just getting the ass end of military weaponry.

The soldier who ferried Kanata had crap BMW motorbike as well...

Not to mention the troop train was a steam loccomotive (I know steam loccomotives exist today but using them as a mass troop transport is uh.....WWII-ish)

So no....it's most likely they are that backward

[PastPrime]

Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

When parts and raw materials are scarce, rationality dictates that you should get all the parts that you can into one place and make as many complete tanks as you can with the bare minimum that you have, and save them for times and places that you would need them the most. Think Germany 1944.

If the case were that there simply aren't any parts and they can't make any more, it doesn't make sense for the girls to have an incomplete tank that is never likely to be made whole and useful. The army would be better off with their resources taking the parts the girls have and sending them to units who can use them as replacements for already irreplacable material.

To me, the fact that they have half a tank in their leaky hangar says that they do have some parts, but not enough for everyone that they aren't giving the girls the parts needed to complete one likely because HQ thinks they'll never use it.

Since it doesn't look like battle damage took the girls tank out, I would assume that it is parts that just wore out from use, or because they were a weak point. It is likely that all of the non working generation tanks need the same parts so collecting them together would be a waste of resources. Just like all the automotive recalls for a defective part. That happens with Military equipment too. But the tank is obviously to old for a TCTO, emergency or otherwise.

For those of you without Military experience, a TCTO is a Time Compliance Technical Order (Our Manuals were Technical Orders). They were used to update aircraft systems, or in an emergency condition, replace dangerously defective parts, usually coming after a crash investigation. There are times when virtually all of a given series of aircraft are grounded until an emergency action TCTO is completed on them.

[sirn]

The more I watched this show, the more I love it.

Spoiler for episode 3:

Stealth mode, mmm…

[Midonin]

Spoiler for So Ra Mi Ka Na Me Mo 03 - Shaft-induced Dreams Not Included:

Very heartwarming episode. Though if there's one lesson I learned last summer, it's that lovemaking is the best medicine. In this case, though, everything worked out for the best. Plus, that song is very important, obviously. From giving the series its name to clearly serving some point, I wonder what will come of it. Also, very Engrish-y interface on the tank.

[Shiroth]

This was probably my favorite episode yet. Nice calm pacing, which really fits this show nicely. Sure some parts are really obvious, though i like it.

The tank really is my favorite character in the show.

[einhorn303]

Just in case people don't realize, the song repeated through ep 3 is a slightly embellished version of the hymnal "Amazing Grace" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5iGpkGeNlc).

Originally Posted by Midonin

Spoiler for So Ra Mi Ka Na Me Mo 03 - Shaft-induced Dreams Not Included:

Very heartwarming episode. Though if there's one lesson I learned last summer, it's that lovemaking is the best medicine. In this case, though, everything worked out for the best. Plus, that song is very important, obviously. From giving the series its name to clearly serving some point, I wonder what will come of it. Also, very Engrish-y interface on the tank.

Yeah, I'm loving the

Good morning, brother.
Hello by Takemicaduchi Navi System.

[Hypernova]

Well, make sense to have the tank UI in english if we invoke the US makes advanced weapons idea.

[Key Board]

So we have a tank named after a Japanese storm god, located in what appears to be Swiss, yet the currency is yen. And it has Amazing Grace recorded in its memories.

Hmm..

[serenade_beta]

Spoiler for ep3:

Mmm~ A great heartwarming(?) episode, but compared to the previous episode, lacked laughs. (Though almost everything Rio does = Gag? Thanks to her voice actor, in a good meaning)
And not enough of the other members~!

It's been a while since I've heard Amazing Grace...
Anyways, the person Rio talked about is probably the same person who played for Kanata?

...By the way, what was wrong with the sister's face around 13:02...? Her chin was... crooked... Actually, chopped off, partially...

Oho! I-Pod Tank! Now that's new... Even more amazing than Isaraaaaaaaaaaaa!'s Edelweiss?

As always, mixing up a whole bunch of cultures... which isn't the case, I guess. After all, according to the end, this is all fiction and not rel-

[Manji Midou]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Spoiler for ep3:

Oho! I-Pod Tank! Now that's new... Even more amazing than Isaraaaaaaaaaaaa!'s Edelweiss?

No, it will never be....

*bites you for speaking nonesense*

heh, guess l wasn't hearing things when....the song sounded like amazing grace...

[Roardel]

Great episode. There’s few explanations, but we can fully understand what happened to Rio and her mother.

[al103]

Hn... So what we have yet - English in tank, Japanese in building and some language they write in - French? Italian? Spanish? Pretty heavy mix...