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As for Athrun and Meyrin, Shinn did hesitate, and in the TV Movies, he shed a tear, as if he was thinking, "I'm sorry". Also, was it shown that he had some second thoughts about the Destiny Plan, before Rey prodded him? As for Luna, at that point, AFAIK, she no longer had feelings for Athrun. Quote:
Back to the Shinn question: I think what motivated Shinn was him seeing Freedom during his escape from Orb, and feeling that it was responsible for the deaths of his family, despite the still-canon explanation of "crossfire between Freedom and Calamity, and leaving it unclear on who fired first". What they should have done is to have the SFreedom served as more motivational fodder for Shinn.
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2013-01-09, 00:07 | Link #2424 | ||
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... has nothing to do with SEED Destiny.
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Going off-topic, despite it being superior to the anime, video game adaptations of CE works are still non-canon, according to Sunrise's Gundam Canon Policy.
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2013-01-10, 22:50 | Link #2428 | ||
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I think all versions of Super Robot Wars emulated the same ending of SEED Destiny with minor optional changes typical in RPGs. SRW Z did a 180 turn degree to the story where everybody behaves differently. It made the biggest nonsensical scene from Destiny even more nonsensical. Another Century's Episode R made its own post Destiny story where Shinn is now working alongside Kira and Athrun. Lol at Shinn using "san" with Kira. |
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Eh, they built it up very well in Z and L for Shinn not to end up like his TV version. Z even has Stella canonically living as per Z2.2 ending showed if you unlocked the True End Path so Shinn had far less reason to hate Kira even if Kira was still a major jerk.
L even overwrites the scene where Shinn takes out the Freedom. Again, Stella canonically lives(though Shinn must lower her down to get her as a pilot) so Shinn doesn't hate Kira. The Minerva and Shinn than let the Archangel go free instead of Shinn one shotting Kira. Feel bad for Shinn x Stella fans since even when she's canonically alive in these games she isn't pushed as a romantic interest for Shinn, it's always Lunamaria no matter what. Rey on the other hand gets shipped with Stella by Banpresto though. So there's that. |
2013-01-11, 14:16 | Link #2431 |
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Means "true" in terms of the official story as it really happened. Like Stellar dying in SEED Destiny is "canon". Events saying otherwise in other media is "non-canon".
"Non-canon" being events entirely separate, made-up, that don't take place in the actual, official story.
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2013-01-11, 21:55 | Link #2433 |
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Canon doesn't have to refer to the Original Story, it just has to refer to the material on hand(In game canon being its own canon while TV/Movie is "Official" canon). The games use their own "canon" and treats some things from the story as "non-canon" for their game. Such as Stella living is canon for SRW Z Saga and L even though in the show/movies Stella is canonically dead.
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2013-01-11, 22:42 | Link #2434 |
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It can depend on point of view too, I suppose.
When I think "(non-)canon", in this case, I think when pertaining to the stuff the material is connected to. In this case, SEED Destiny. All the different things in the games, mangas, novels, etc are "non-canon" to me. Only the stuff actually in the original material is "canon". But thinking in terms of each individual piece of media, yeah, stuff will be "(non-)canon" in that sense too.
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As bandai(or was it sunrise?) stated, animated works are " canon " (i don't remember what they actually said, but something like that) while the rest isnt, as in What the Animated works say > Non-animated works say, if a conflict in material appears, the animated works is always the " truth " |
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2013-01-12, 14:11 | Link #2436 |
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Yeah, I recall that being said too. Though, I believe official encylopedias and such were counted too (in terms of things like MS specs and such)
Even if the works of other games/manga/novels/etc doesn't exactly conflict with anything in the official timeline; still not canon. (ex. Crossbone Gundam.)
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There are times when canon is really questionable if the author from the original work is responsible for new ones works such the Gundam Evolve OVAs changed the fate of Hathaway or the Zeta movies that changed the downer ending or the new Evangelion movies. |
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And here are the CE canon statuses, with newer versions of similar works taking priority:
I think that Sunrise's official policy concerning Gundam canon is that only animated works are canon, and everything else is "expanded universe" material. I know that it applies to UC, but does it apply to AU shows (G, Wing, X, Turn A, Seed, 00, AGE)?
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