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Perfect 10 | 2 | 20.00% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 4 | 40.00% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 0 | 0% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 1 | 10.00% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 20.00% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 10.00% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2018-08-09, 18:34 | Link #21 |
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Given the fences, they weren't going to climb in, and parachuting isn't the same as being teleported, there would be a LOT of thuds as they land and then have to drop chutes... basically it's not happening like this. So they could realistically only have entered from that ONE door. So yeah. No way are they going to be able to march in full kit past Suzuha no matter how distracted she is.
They (writers) should have just had them storm the rooftop from the door and have both of them at gunpoint before Suzuha can react. If she was alone she might have had still pulled a gun at them, but not with Mayushi there. And yeah, these guys are a disgrace for whatever spec ops unit they are from. And no matter which outfit they are from, you certainly won't be sending "some military guys" into a foreign nation ESPECIALLY knowing what is at stake. Russians have sent Spetznatz and they are relaxed while Americans are frantic to catch up. As the situation was shown, it wouldn't matter any amount of hell you were through, if you are surrounded by trained military personnel with guns and you don't have any kind of special armor or like to make you able to tank bullets, they will quickly fill you with lead. Well they WOULD have if they haven't chosen the STUPIDEST possible formation, the circle, where any misses are likely to hit friendlies. But enough about the firefight stupidity, IMO I don't think M is dead. For a head wound there is surprisingly little blood. Just that trickle in the last possible shot. If a bullet had drilled her head, the effects would have been more dramatic. Also I wonder if this is Kagari or the other motorcycle helmeted woman. Because if it's Kagari, we are now pretty much tossing a die on how she reacts. As for the rest of the episode... FUCK YES. Finally this feels like the plot is doing something. Compared to this, episodes since Amadeus stopped being a regular feel like just a bunch of sideways movement.
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2018-08-09, 20:41 | Link #23 | |||
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The only thing we can assume is that Leskinien actually wants both of them on his team in order to build a time machine, as he himself doesn't specialize into that field. Quote:
Take Amadeus for example, last time Amadeus got hacked we got a timeline change, yet we didn't get one this time, meaning that the conditions for it to occur have yet to be fulfilled.
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2018-08-10, 05:46 | Link #24 | |
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2018-08-10, 07:54 | Link #26 | |
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IE the world shift was caused by the Dmail itself, not by SERN's knowledge about it. Even if it SERNS knowledge would be enough though, Past Okabe wound't necessarily feel the effects immediately. It rather depends on when the incision happens.
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2018-08-10, 19:19 | Link #28 |
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This. The past changed because Suzuha crashed the time machine. She crashed it because it wasn't as sophisticated or whatever compared to the beta line, and that's because of SERN's influence in the future. That's because of the DMail being noticed/captured, not because Daru saw it a few days earlier than it was sent.
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2018-08-13, 00:07 | Link #30 |
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After rewatching the VN's version of the same sequence of events I have to say the VN version just makes more sense, the episode would have been better if it just followed that setup for Operation Arclight and the confrontation over the time machine.
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2018-08-14, 12:44 | Link #34 |
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I would be wondering how they got there in such a small amount of time. The only way this could have worked if they jumped her when she arrived there. They could have gotten there first and set up an ambush.
But "summon spec ops guys" from thin air just doesn't work for that one entrance roof.
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