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Naruto714 · 2004-05-21, 21:30

Who was or is the best shinobi in there prime?

When I say I prime I mean like when:

Sarutobi: When he was younger
Orochimaru: With all his jutsu's still

I'd personally say The 4th because he seems to be the strongest as Sarutobi, Jiriaya, Kakashi, and others said. Also he came up with some great jutsus

Spoiler:

And he could control Frog Boss the best and sealed Kyuubi in Naruto

sarcasteak · 2004-05-21, 21:31

Another one...? Sigh, this one is no different: it's Sarutobi. End of thread.

Naruto714 · 2004-05-21, 21:35

I searched and didn't see one like this. Are you sure of it? If so please provide a link.

Also why did you choose Sarutobi?

Lexander · 2004-05-21, 22:14

Yondaime = dead ... so why is he up there.
Sarutobi = dead ... so why is he up there.
1st = dead ... so why is he up there
2nd = dead ... so why is he up there

Lunchboxx · 2004-05-21, 22:25

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Originally Posted by Lexander

Yondaime = dead ... so why is he up there.
Sarutobi = dead ... so why is he up there.
1st = dead ... so why is he up there
2nd = dead ... so why is he up there

Hey good point...

Im guessing Itachi Will dominate this poll...but I may be wrong.

EDIT: I voted Jiraiya btw...

sarcasteak · 2004-05-21, 22:34

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Originally Posted by Naruto714

I searched and didn't see one like this. Are you sure of it? If so please provide a link.

Because they were all deleted -_-;;

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Originally Posted by Naruto714

Also why did you choose Sarutobi?

God of Shinobi. Professor. Hokage.

HoboGod · 2004-05-21, 22:35

the 3rd hokage was considered the greatest hokage and was nicknamed the professor because of his great knowledge of jutsus. the hokage is considered the greatest of all kages, and thusly the 3rd hokage is the greatest ninja.... this has been discussed countless timed before, and i believe there was a thread that asked everyone's opinion of the 5 greatest ninjas.

i think my list was something like:

1) 3rd hokage in prime
2) Itachi
3) Orochimaru (before his arms were sealed)
4) 4th hokage
5) Jiraiya

EbonySeraphim · 2004-05-21, 22:43

Assuming the thread won't be closed:

Lexander - It doesn't matter who is dead. The thread asks for the best shinobi in their prime. If they died, that doesn't mean they were any worse when they were alive.

I think Sarutobi is supposed to have been the strongest in his prime and was perhaps matched by only the 4th. Sarutobi is definitely strong when he is capable of doing what he did to Orochimaru at his age; especially considering Orochimaru is extremely powerful and much younger. The 4th is only up there because of what he was able to do to Kyuubi and other "anime suggestions" that at least I picked up on (or imaged) that make him so.

My biased opinion and not much to prove it - I'd say Jiariya is up there with the 4th and Sarutobi. I guess it is backed up by the fact that Jiariya taught the 4th. I can't tell if Jiariya is after his prime or not. I'd think not. He is 50 but still kickin and pimpin.

Crimson · 2004-05-21, 23:26

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Originally Posted by HoboGod

the 3rd hokage was considered the greatest hokage and was nicknamed the professor because of his great knowledge of jutsus. the hokage is considered the greatest of all kages, and thusly the 3rd hokage is the greatest ninja.... this has been discussed countless timed before, and i believe there was a thread that asked everyone's opinion of the 5 greatest ninjas.

i think my list was something like:

1) 3rd hokage in prime
2) Itachi
3) Orochimaru (before his arms were sealed)
4) 4th hokage
5) Jiraiya

Its interesting how you place Jiraiya at the buttom when Itachi is scared to fight him. and you even put Itachi before the 4th... Do you know how strong the 4th actually was? wow!

Itachi did a few tricks with his eyeballs and all of a sudden he's being ranked higher than the Hokages >_<...

My list would be something like this

1)3rd Hokage when he's young (He was able to take on Orochimaru who is alot younger so i'm sure he would have been ALOT more powerfull when he was in his prime days)

2)Jiraiya (I place him second mainly because Itachi is scared to fight him, and he's the teacher of the 4th Hokage

3)Orochimaru/Itachi

Final · 2004-05-21, 23:29

Sarutobi has my vote.

I'd still like to see more of the forth and what he was capible of.

Rasho · 2004-05-21, 23:35

I have a theory,(*Or more accurately,my opinion*)
That the Fourth is stronger then Itachi,i dont' say this because of facts,etc.
But rather(*This may sound stupid,and it IS*),usually in Manga there is usually one guy stronger then the most powderfull character,
Take Orochimaru for example(b4 the intro of Itachi)he was the strongest character,but With the intoducton of Itachi we learned that Itachi was more powderfull then Orochimaru,
so,i think,The Fourth should be stronger then Itachi.

(*I warned you it Was stupid*)

sarcasteak · 2004-05-21, 23:47

I would like to remind a certain member here that no matter how strong someone is, a jutsu that directly attacks that person mentally with absolute control is undefendable if it hits no matter how strong the target is. Of course, a summon that seals the opponents' souls is absolutely deadly too, but it is a double-KO technique...just not as good.

Eshu · 2004-05-22, 01:02

It's the 3rd really for one simple reason. He knew EVERY technique that was employed in Konaha. Which means, if he was younger (and had to lay it all on the line for one fight) He could have busted out with the extreme lotus and laid waste to just about everyone else.

It's possable others know the technique...but I'm running off what's been said. As for less sucidal techniques....he knew ALL of them. Every last one, and he had a deal with Kakashi (I think) that all the ones Kakashi copied out in the field he would teach to the 3rd. Plus Enma, while obviously not as huge as Gamabunta, is a hell of a summon, and size isn't all that matters.

DracoBattousai · 2004-05-22, 02:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson

Its interesting how you place Jiraiya at the buttom when Itachi is scared to fight him. and you even put Itachi before the 4th... Do you know how strong the 4th actually was? wow!

Itachi did a few tricks with his eyeballs and all of a sudden he's being ranked higher than the Hokages >_<...

My list would be something like this

1)3rd Hokage when he's young (He was able to take on Orochimaru who is alot younger so i'm sure he would have been ALOT more powerfull when he was in his prime days)

2)Jiraiya (I place him second mainly because Itachi is scared to fight him, and he's the teacher of the 4th Hokage

3)Orochimaru/Itachi

Spoiler:

Anyways I'm gonna go with Sarutobi, he was considered the best by everyone during his prime, and could still kick some ass even when he was old. He gets my vote.

HoboGod · 2004-05-22, 03:11

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Originally Posted by DracoBattousai

Spoiler:

sarcasteak · 2004-05-22, 03:33

I definitely think Jiraiya is up there, it's just that he's not always serious (and the two times he was, either the baddies ran or he was in terrible condition). A ninja doesn't need special bloodline or forbidden jutsu to be considered good; Jiraiya has his own set of prefered jutsus that are just as distructive. And as for being a Hokage, Jiraiya simply does not display the heart and the responsibility to carry the load.

DAyGO · 2004-05-22, 05:36

in thier prime right???

ok welll i say itachi since he hasnt really got to his prime yet(hes still a teenager). since hes 17/18. i say that his prime will be while hes 30-50 years old(the 3 legendary nins age is about 50)

or

3rd/4th never seen the 4th fight...

Chosen · 2004-05-22, 06:05

This thread is really silly, the 3d would not know as much as he knew if it wasnt for the 4th. The 4th invented the most powerfull jutsu(The sealing one). And ofc the rasengan. And he did most likely find up more. And the monkey king would stand no chance against Gamabunta, that is for sure, or maybe you think that staff would kick a giant frogs ass ? O.o(If yes then please explain me why)

And yes the sarutobi knew every single jutsu in Konoha. BUT that doesn't mean he can master them. As we have heard before, the 4th and Jiraiya was the onlyone able to master the rasengaen. So saying for sure that Sarutobi could just open all his 8 gates is just BS.
Anyway if they were all enemyes the 4th would ofc not tell the 3d all the jutsus, he did invent, and then he could just seal everyone.(He was able to seal the Kyuubi, so saying he would not been able to seal the others is also just BS.)
Anyway we also need to know when Sarutobi was at his strongest ? was it before or after the 4th became Hokage, if it was before that means he didn't know as many jutsus as he does now.

The-Wolf-Of-Mibu · 2004-05-22, 06:14

As a testement to Sarutobi's immense skill, he was able to very very nearly defeat one of the lengedary three despite his very old age AND the fact that forbidden techniques were being used against him. I mean for god sakes Oro summoned the first and the second to fight Sartutobi.

Even in his old age, if Oro had not used that SUPER CHEAP technique, and fought Sarutobi himself, he would have defnitely lost. I have no doubt about that.

Lexander · 2004-05-22, 06:38

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Originally Posted by EbonySeraphim

Lexander - It doesn't matter who is dead. The thread asks for the best shinobi in their prime. If they died, that doesn't mean they were any worse when they were alive.

Which still doesn't make sense cause we haven't seen all the ones that are dead in their prime. All speculation with little to no facts. It comes down to how good you imagine the 3rd was or how good you imagine the 4th was. Also I don't think those dolls of the 1st and 2nd accurately showed how good the real ones were.

So ... Why are they listed?!

View Poll Results: Who is the ultimate shinobi?
The 1st	24	5.99%
The 2nd	3	0.75%
Sarutobi	117	29.18%
The 4th	119	29.68%
Jiraiya	27	6.73%
Orochimaru	10	2.49%
Tsunde	4	1.00%
Itachi	73	18.20%
Other...[Please State Who]	24	5.99%
Voters: 401. You may not vote on this poll

2004-05-21, 21:30	Link #1
Naruto714 Kinjutsu Master Join Date: May 2004 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow....	Who Is the Strongest/Best Ninja in their Prime? [Manga] Who was or is the best shinobi in there prime? When I say I prime I mean like when: Sarutobi: When he was younger Orochimaru: With all his jutsu's still I'd personally say The 4th because he seems to be the strongest as Sarutobi, Jiriaya, Kakashi, and others said. Also he came up with some great jutsus Spoiler: Like the Rasengan And he could control Frog Boss the best and sealed Kyuubi in Naruto

2004-05-21, 22:43	Link #8
EbonySeraphim Phat Poster/Thread Killer Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Rochester Age: 38	Assuming the thread won't be closed: Lexander - It doesn't matter who is dead. The thread asks for the best shinobi in their prime. If they died, that doesn't mean they were any worse when they were alive. I think Sarutobi is supposed to have been the strongest in his prime and was perhaps matched by only the 4th. Sarutobi is definitely strong when he is capable of doing what he did to Orochimaru at his age; especially considering Orochimaru is extremely powerful and much younger. The 4th is only up there because of what he was able to do to Kyuubi and other "anime suggestions" that at least I picked up on (or imaged) that make him so. My biased opinion and not much to prove it - I'd say Jiariya is up there with the 4th and Sarutobi. I guess it is backed up by the fact that Jiariya taught the 4th. I can't tell if Jiariya is after his prime or not. I'd think not. He is 50 but still kickin and pimpin. __________________ If I don't justify what I'm doing, obviously I don't believe in it.

2004-05-21, 21:31	Link #2
sarcasteak WAHA~ Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: World overloaded with fun Age: 39	Another one...? Sigh, this one is no different: it's Sarutobi. End of thread.

2004-05-21, 21:35	Link #3
Naruto714 Kinjutsu Master Join Date: May 2004 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow....	I searched and didn't see one like this. Are you sure of it? If so please provide a link. Also why did you choose Sarutobi?

2004-05-21, 22:14	Link #4
Lexander www.thefestlanders.com Join Date: Dec 2003	Yondaime = dead ... so why is he up there. Sarutobi = dead ... so why is he up there. 1st = dead ... so why is he up there 2nd = dead ... so why is he up there

2004-05-21, 22:35	Link #7
HoboGod Necromancer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Cardboard Box Age: 38	the 3rd hokage was considered the greatest hokage and was nicknamed the professor because of his great knowledge of jutsus. the hokage is considered the greatest of all kages, and thusly the 3rd hokage is the greatest ninja.... this has been discussed countless timed before, and i believe there was a thread that asked everyone's opinion of the 5 greatest ninjas. i think my list was something like: 1) 3rd hokage in prime 2) Itachi 3) Orochimaru (before his arms were sealed) 4) 4th hokage 5) Jiraiya

2004-05-21, 23:29	Link #10
Final Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Squaresville Age: 44	Sarutobi has my vote. I'd still like to see more of the forth and what he was capible of.

2004-05-21, 23:35	Link #11
Rasho Go-Pro Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Hand Of God	I have a theory,(Or more accurately,my opinion) That the Fourth is stronger then Itachi,i dont' say this because of facts,etc. But rather(This may sound stupid,and it IS),usually in Manga there is usually one guy stronger then the most powderfull character, Take Orochimaru for example(b4 the intro of Itachi)he was the strongest character,but With the intoducton of Itachi we learned that Itachi was more powderfull then Orochimaru, so,i think,The Fourth should be stronger then Itachi. (I warned you it Was stupid)

2004-05-21, 23:47	Link #12
sarcasteak WAHA~ Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: World overloaded with fun Age: 39	I would like to remind a certain member here that no matter how strong someone is, a jutsu that directly attacks that person mentally with absolute control is undefendable if it hits no matter how strong the target is. Of course, a summon that seals the opponents' souls is absolutely deadly too, but it is a double-KO technique...just not as good.

2004-05-22, 01:02	Link #13
Eshu Junior Ninja Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 43	It's the 3rd really for one simple reason. He knew EVERY technique that was employed in Konaha. Which means, if he was younger (and had to lay it all on the line for one fight) He could have busted out with the extreme lotus and laid waste to just about everyone else. It's possable others know the technique...but I'm running off what's been said. As for less sucidal techniques....he knew ALL of them. Every last one, and he had a deal with Kakashi (I think) that all the ones Kakashi copied out in the field he would teach to the 3rd. Plus Enma, while obviously not as huge as Gamabunta, is a hell of a summon, and size isn't all that matters.

2004-05-22, 03:33	Link #16
sarcasteak WAHA~ Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: World overloaded with fun Age: 39	I definitely think Jiraiya is up there, it's just that he's not always serious (and the two times he was, either the baddies ran or he was in terrible condition). A ninja doesn't need special bloodline or forbidden jutsu to be considered good; Jiraiya has his own set of prefered jutsus that are just as distructive. And as for being a Hokage, Jiraiya simply does not display the heart and the responsibility to carry the load.

2004-05-22, 05:36	Link #17
DAyGO Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: TX Age: 35	in thier prime right??? ok welll i say itachi since he hasnt really got to his prime yet(hes still a teenager). since hes 17/18. i say that his prime will be while hes 30-50 years old(the 3 legendary nins age is about 50) or 3rd/4th never seen the 4th fight...

2004-05-22, 06:05	Link #18
Chosen Me > Mods ;) Join Date: Apr 2004	This thread is really silly, the 3d would not know as much as he knew if it wasnt for the 4th. The 4th invented the most powerfull jutsu(The sealing one). And ofc the rasengan. And he did most likely find up more. And the monkey king would stand no chance against Gamabunta, that is for sure, or maybe you think that staff would kick a giant frogs ass ? O.o(If yes then please explain me why) And yes the sarutobi knew every single jutsu in Konoha. BUT that doesn't mean he can master them. As we have heard before, the 4th and Jiraiya was the onlyone able to master the rasengaen. So saying for sure that Sarutobi could just open all his 8 gates is just BS. Anyway if they were all enemyes the 4th would ofc not tell the 3d all the jutsus, he did invent, and then he could just seal everyone.(He was able to seal the Kyuubi, so saying he would not been able to seal the others is also just BS.) Anyway we also need to know when Sarutobi was at his strongest ? was it before or after the 4th became Hokage, if it was before that means he didn't know as many jutsus as he does now.

2004-05-22, 06:14	Link #19
The-Wolf-Of-Mibu Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004	As a testement to Sarutobi's immense skill, he was able to very very nearly defeat one of the lengedary three despite his very old age AND the fact that forbidden techniques were being used against him. I mean for god sakes Oro summoned the first and the second to fight Sartutobi. Even in his old age, if Oro had not used that SUPER CHEAP technique, and fought Sarutobi himself, he would have defnitely lost. I have no doubt about that.