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Old 2011-10-25, 22:08   Link #4441
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I think it's because the merge is similar to the transformation of a human into a Flame Haze.
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Old 2011-10-26, 01:07   Link #4442
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I would consider the Yuji-SnH merge to be a different class from Flame Haze creation though. It's more complete so to speak.

While with Flame Hazes, they still serve as a conduit for their Lord's power rather than becoming the same being as their Lord
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Old 2011-10-26, 01:12   Link #4443
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Ah, yes, I forgot that the merge did not need any Vessel for the contracting Lord, and we notice that the Lord was able to partially manifest itself into Yuji (his extra locks of hair, for example).

The closest we can get to a complete merge between human and Flame Haze is Shana and Mathilde Saint-Omer, as their Flame Haze form in a way symbolizes Alastor's flame.
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Old 2011-10-26, 01:50   Link #4444
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I think it's because the merge is similar to the transformation of a human into a Flame Haze.
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I would consider the Yuji-SnH merge to be a different class from Flame Haze creation though. It's more complete so to speak.
Yes, that makes sense. Thanks, Marcus H. and Cosmic Eagle.

Speaking of conduit, it reminds me about the general strength of Flame Hazes. Correct me if I am wrong. Crimson Lords, such as Sydonay and Bel Peol manifests their entire existence in this world, so they are able to utilize their full strength.

In theory, Lords of the Crimson Realm, such as Marchosias and Tiamat, are much stronger than Crimson Lords in Guze. However, since the Lords are confined in vessel, the corresponding Flame Hazes may not be able to utilize the entire full strength of their Lords, limited to the power of existence of the Flame Hazes.

Thus, don't you think that Flame Hazes are generally disadvantaged in terms of strength, compared to Crimson Lords?
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Old 2011-10-26, 07:10   Link #4445
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It depends.

The Bal Masque Trinity are certainly capable of killing other Lords even if they fully manifested.

But they're about as high as you get before entering the God class levels...

Below them you have Lords like Haborym, Sabrac, Decarabia etc, all high-level generals and power houses.

Many high-ranking Flame Hazes and those contracted to stronger Lords (Utrennyaya/Vechernyaya, Balor, the Four Gods, Takemikazuchi etc) OTOH easily kill other Lords in battle and are capable of soloing armies of mook Tomogara
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Old 2011-10-29, 08:05   Link #4446
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I got a question about Novel22. I read in a review that Shana sings a lovesong for Yuji that'll show up in Novel10 as well? Can somebody tell me something about the song?

Spoiler for song:
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Old 2011-10-29, 08:55   Link #4447
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I got a question about Novel22. I read in a review that Shana sings a lovesong for Yuji that'll show up in Novel10 as well? Can somebody tell me something about the song?

Spoiler for song:
The title is 「私は他の誰も愛さない」

It's the love song Mathilde sings to Alastor and was originally taught to her by an aquaintance named Aquitaine.

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http://www1.atwiki.jp/sslibrary/?cmd...81%AA%E3%81%84
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Old 2011-10-29, 10:41   Link #4448
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Shana sings a lovesong? awwww
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Old 2011-10-29, 10:59   Link #4449
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The title is 「私は他の誰も愛さない」

It's the love song Mathilde sings to Alastor and was originally taught to her by an aquaintance named Aquitaine.

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http://www1.atwiki.jp/sslibrary/?cmd...81%AA%E3%81%84
Very interesting, thanks for the information!
Can someone please translate this song into English?
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Old 2011-10-29, 15:36   Link #4450
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Cosmic Eagle: When does Shana sing to Yuji?
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Old 2011-10-29, 15:40   Link #4451
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Cosmic Eagle: When does Shana sing to Yuji?
LN XXII (the last one)
According to Nietono No Shana's
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I got a question about Novel22. I read in a review that Shana sings a lovesong for Yuji that'll show up in Novel10 as well? Can somebody tell me something about the song?

Spoiler for song:
Spoiler for sfdsfasfdsfadfsadasfsafdasfsafdasfs:
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Old 2011-10-29, 15:45   Link #4452
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I still haven't read a summary of the final novel... I haven't been spoiled yet.

Thank you Ec1ge.
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Old 2011-10-29, 15:56   Link #4453
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I still haven't read a summary of the final novel... I haven't been spoiled yet.

Thank you Ec1ge.
You're welcome. And I havent read the last LN or any past III.
[ It's b/c I live in the US and over here, it sucks. ]
The only reason I've got a "good" understanding is b/c I've looked through all the pages in this thread (from 50+)

Btw, that comment I quoted was actually a few comments up LOL
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Old 2011-10-29, 16:08   Link #4454
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Well, I saw it earlier, but I don't know why (maybe because I had a hard and awfully big day of work, and I am quite tired) I didn't get it :P

I would really like to read some summary of the final LN... I am a big fan of Shana x Yuji romance, and I would really like to be spoiled. Please, did someone do that already in this thread? I am sorry for asking...

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Old 2011-10-29, 16:11   Link #4455
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Well, I saw it earlier, but I don't know why (maybe because I had a hard and awfully big day of work, and I am quite tired) I didn't get it :P

I would really like to read some summary of the final LN... I am a big fan of Shana x Yuji romance, and I would really like to be spoiled. Please, did someone do that already in this thread? I am sorry for asking...

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Yep
But me? I'm just an unemployed asian boy [yes, laugh] b/c every1 I applied to doesn't even bother to call me.

And I believe every1 will someday be able to read the English-translations of the LN's. SOMEDAY

EDIT: I got balls to post this up. xD
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Old 2011-10-29, 21:12   Link #4456
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Very interesting, thanks for the information!
Can someone please translate this song into English?
I compose this new song of passion
The wind blows, the rain falls, the frost descends and before that
My lover tests me
How I love him so
How futile it is to sow the seeds of discord
I cannot break this bond
Instead I give myself wholly to him, abandon myself entirely to him
Yes, if I become his possession, so be it
It's as if I'm intoxicated
It's because I love that beautiful flame
I cannot live without him
I'm blissful as long as I'm at his side
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Old 2011-10-30, 00:38   Link #4457
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wow the song's really cute.......

how I wish they could animate the whole vol. 22 OH LORD PLEASE!!
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Old 2011-10-30, 05:03   Link #4458
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wow the song's really cute.......

how I wish they could animate the whole vol. 22 OH LORD PLEASE!!
Isn't that what they intend?

I wish they'd animate Eternal Song too...
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Old 2011-10-30, 08:05   Link #4459
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I wish they'd animate Eternal Song too...
Yeah, I agree with this.
Thank you very much for your translation!
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Old 2011-10-30, 08:45   Link #4460
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Also....You should see how Yuji's self-conviction breaks after questioning from Johan....it's a real contrast to him in ep 4...
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