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Well then, this was hard to write without going into very spoiler specific territory, but even then
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I think that's really the thing that draws me to him, not the dark part, but how it's balanced so it's not a complete crapsack world where no hope is to be found, but there it is a hard path to take to get to where you want to go. Quote:
Even in Phantom of the inferno, love set a path that ultimately lead to a lead characters death, and in some case was actually used as a weapon in many cases. I wonder if Gen ever loved someone in his life ... Quote:
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2012-05-01, 02:20 | Link #22 |
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One thing I'd like to bring up here - I recently read about how, of all the Fate/Zero characters, the one that Gen had the most hand in is Rider/Iskander (i.e. this is the character that is the most Gen/least Nasu).
Now Rider is a very gregarious, hearty, and generally upbeat character. Perhaps ironically, I would say that Rider does more than any other Fate/Zero character in bringing a much-needed lighthearted balancing to Fate/Zero. And this is the guy that Gen can take credit for more than any other Fate/Zero character. So I doubt that Gen is as depressed/dark as he's made out to be. Honestly, I think that Archon_Wing has a point - I think that Gen likes unsung heroes. I think that at some level (perhaps even a subconscious one) Gen wants to write well-intentioned protagonists that meet a grizzly fate, but while still capturing a vague sense that maybe it was all worth it anyway. In some ways, that's a more powerful message than showing a person who eventually triumphs over hardship and accomplishes all of his/her goals, because that clearly shows it was worth it. But if you look at what happened to the historical figure that Fate/Zero's Rider is based on (and how Rider copes with that), and if you look at what happened to Sayaka in Madoka Magica (and how Sayaka reflects on that in her actual final scene), I think that the narrative is actually saying "Maybe it'll all be worth it even if you don't fully succeed". It's ironically a bit inspirational for a supposedly very dark writer.
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2012-05-01, 02:54 | Link #23 | |
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It's really easy to have a results-oriented outlook on things. It's very hard not to. After all, history is frequently just a summary. It's easy to say, "they won, therefore they were the ones that succeeded". But behind every success are those that fell and they contributed just as much as the big names did. Sometimes even more. The greatest stories of heroism are probably the ones that were never told. It would be safe to say that we are alive and well today, thanks to the acts of someone we will never know of. Sorta like any game of chance that involves skill, such as poker. Nothing is definite in those things, but there are definitely the better choices one can pick. It doesn't mean if you lose, you picked the wrong choice, after all. But on the other hand, most things in life aren't definite, and picking the best choice is the greatest challenge. But we hope those choices are ours, and that people fought to make us even have the chance to make said choice even if life offers you the short end a bit too much. If you realize that there is someone out there that you don't know that somehow helped you, and that there is someone looking out for you out there no matter where you are even if you can never return the favor, then perhaps this dying universe doesn't feel as cold and cynical for a while more. Is part of it. Better to take your feelings out on fiction, as Tomino would attest.
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2012-05-01, 03:23 | Link #24 |
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Question,why is it that when people talk about Gen Urobuchi's career it seems this never happened?Was it bad and forgetable?
I know Black lagoon isn't his franchise but neither was fate and people still give him credit for fate/zero. I havn't read it but I'd be interested in his take on the franchise.
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2012-05-01, 03:57 | Link #26 |
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Haven't read it yet, though I want to. My guess is that Black Lagoon doesn't generate the same amount of hype as Nasuverse so outside Japan (and maybe even there) not many know about it.
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2012-05-01, 10:44 | Link #27 | |
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He answered my question in Sakuracon (do you hate Mami and Sayaka that much?) Ans: characters shine the best when they are about to expire xD
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2012-05-01, 11:38 | Link #28 | |
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Homura never stops her struggle, and Madoka reaches the end of the tunnel eventually. Meanwhile in Fate/Zero, despite the gloom and doom surrounding most characters (which is understandable with them all being tragic heroes) we have Iskandar boosting morale all around. Black Lagoon as well, while certainly being about the darker aspects of human society, tends to end on a high note. |
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2012-05-01, 15:10 | Link #30 | |
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2012-05-03, 12:42 | Link #32 |
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I really like his style. Often times, characters that are broken or insane tend to be rather droll and used as deus ex machinae, but I feel like that's a wasted opportunity. Insanity should build character instead of denying it, and Gen can really make interesting and memorable maniacs.
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2012-05-25, 08:21 | Link #33 |
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The guy's statement that he can't write happy endings anymore, even when he tries, reminds me of something Gary Larson said in A Prehistory of The Far Side: "If I tried writing Lassie, she'd get rabies and attack Timmy." He couldn't help it; it was just the way his mind worked.
Maybe it's because I majored in creative writing and all self-proclaimed writers love a Freudian excuse, but I kinda think the fact that he nearly died of a disease is the key to understanding this piece of work and his works. I certainly wouldn't go so far as to say that happy endings contradict the laws of nature, but I would agree with his seeming belief that we need sad endings once in a while, just to remind us that no, sometimes things don't go our way, and sometimes the villains get away with it. And sometimes, as in Madoka (arguably) and in Another (I wonder what he thought of that anime), the only villains are the intangible, emotionless forces of nature. |
2012-07-29, 21:13 | Link #35 | |
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Urobuchi Q&A from Otakon 2012
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2012-07-30, 15:22 | Link #39 |
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He wasn't saying he's doing anime for only two more years. He said he was so busy with the anime he's working on, that that will be all he's working on for two years. He said his style of writing suits anime scriptwriting/storyboarding better than it does for Visual Novels/Light Novels as well.
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