sola - Episode 8 Discussion / Poll

[Pellissier]

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[lightbringer]

Spoiler for episode 8:

God, someone please kill Aono... she's really starting to get on my nerves now.

Aono locks up Yorito at home, looks like she erased his memories but he has nightmares of killing Matsuri. Matsuri is fine, by the way. Looks like she still hasn't fully recovered from the injury though. Mana finds out that Aono is a Yaka, and we finally get irrefutable proof that Goth Loli is a Yaka also - both burn in the sunlight.

Aono has finally decided to finish off Matsuri... will Yorito make it there in time, now that Mana has gotten through to him in his stupor? Well, obviously he will. It feels like the ending is drawing near. Actually, I feel like next week could well be the last episode. Are there more episodes scheduled after next week?

[Anacone]

Drama went bit differently what we were expecting, but it was quite clear that

Spoiler:

Aono probably or Yorito himself fixed his memories. IMO They were moving quite fast forward.

Good but not as good as two latest eps. Drama around Yoritos dream/memories wasn't so suspense because that fact was already quite clear/discussed and art in dream sequence looked/was odd. But way it ended was nice surprise to wait in next ep

Spoiler for ep 9:

Catfight ...Let's start taking bets!!

[Proto]

Mark my words. Predicting the future since episode 6

[serenade_beta]

Spoiler for Episode 8:

Heh... I saw people thinking what will Takeshi do against two Yakas, but I always figured it wouldn't be Takeshi vs. Matsuri, Aono, it would be Matsuri vs. Aono. Looks like a lot is happening...

[Deathkillz]

*cracks fingers* let see what happens this ep

Spoiler:

not even 10 secs into the ep and already we get a WTF event...after stabbing matsuri yorito wakes up to find himself in the classroom...he then says in a puzzled voice: "a dream???"



later that day yorito is talking to mana but has a sudden flashback to a scene what happened last night...he then forgets about what he was talking to mana about and she thinks that he is sick...hes getting his memories messed around so it seems...



a few seconds later she makes another connection with the "rain" and "towel" last night...so much so it triggers another flashback which causes him to fall over feeling dizzy ~



mana takes him home...he lies down on the sofa while mana goes to get a towel ~ aono thanks yorito and asks if he is alrite...yorito asks aono about yesterday and she tells him "truthfully" ~ he asks if they met anyone yesterday and aono answers "who?" with a troubled expression



...yorito cant remember but he knows that he is forgetting something important...aono then tells him to go sleep...and he does O.o just like that...aono then take him to his room while telling a puzzed mana to go home...

they both say oyasumi and aono leaves...



then that night we see loli tan and matsuri walking...Mayuko tells matsuri not to push it soo far...but she ignores her...Mayuko then takes matsuri to a train cargo...there they rest for the night ~ but before they chat...an oh my god we have it confirmed! Mayuko is a YAKA!! ~ here we see her burning up trying to get to the shade and it was matsuri who saved her just as she was about to pass out...Mayuko asks if its really alrite for matsuri not to go to hospital but she just throws back the same question...matsuri then asks if she is sure that she doesnt want to go back to takashi...and she is sure that she doesnt want to have anything to do with him...

and matsuri still has a promise unfulfilled...



the next day koyori and mana comes to visit...as they were about to leave aono opens the door...aono tells them that yorito is sick and closes the door...(okey minus points for being mean >___<)



yorito sits in bed and it totally dull out of his mind...he tells aono that he knows matsuri but aono insists that it way just a weird dream...aono then leaves and starts crying ~ i know this feeling...shes definitly saying "why cant yorito forget about matsuri" in her head...



the next day...yorito is still off from school and mana tells her friend that he is sick...
mana's other friend then comes in and shows them some "hot news"...mana is shocked...she asks where she managed to take the picture and then she says that it was by coincidence...



mana then asks for a copy of that picture and then leaves...
she goes to yorito's house and demands to see yorito...aono says that she isnt allowed and when mana tells her that she knows where matsuri is aono tries to slap the door on her...telling her to "leave!"



mana then tells her to at least tell yorito that matsuri is still around and that its because matsuri is an important person...this pisses aono off and she pushes mana away...causeing her hand to smoke in the sun...OMG! another confirmation! AONO IS ALSO A YAKA!



mana asks what the hell that was but aono just closes the door...mana is just confused as hell O.o

in the afternoon we see takashi searching...i duno how he found that place but he did...



then we see in a nightmare (which turned out to be yorito's) matsuri being stabbed...he freaks as aono struggles to hold him...



he then imagines matsuri turning into stone and crumbling...which causes him to spaz out even more O.o



and holy crap...yorito in a fit of mindless rage pulls the curtains off which causes aono to burn!! that one badass scream...while yorito is just left mindless...



aono tells yorito that matsuri isnt here anymore ~ he finally calms down and falls to his ass...aono apologises for causing so much pain...and that he just wants to stay together...



flashback time!! i presume this is how yorito died...all aono wants now is just to stay by yorito...she puts him to bed and tells him that they will talk later...but when she leaves all yorito says is that "matsuri isnt here..."



mana then sneaks into the house and find yorito's room a mess...she tries to snap him out of it but hes not responding at all...all he can say is that "matsuri is not here anymore"



freaked out mana slaps him and shows him the picture...he wakes up at last!!



moving onto matsuri we see her standing up looking at the moon...yorito the takes mana on a bike ride...to where matsuri is...

matsuri is then seen walking out of the cargo and is attacked by paper planes! (LOLZ!)
no doubt its aono...she is going to kill her! ~ ~

crap now my fingers are hurting and i need a rest @__@ will post my thoughts later ~

[techiet]

Well now,

Spoiler for Episode 8:

That scene with Yorito going insane scared the crap out of me.
Wait, we're halfway done with the series already?

Spoiler for Next Episode:

Aono vs. Matsuri! FIGHT! Though I imagine Yorito will get there in time to stop it?

[kct]

Just as I thought the previous episode was crazy enough.

Spoiler for episode 8:

Seriously, I never expect Aono to go that far into completely eliminating Matsuri from existence. Rather, Aono's pulling a Teana (going all out) on Matsuri now.

Also, what happened to their house in the past, when it was destroyed? Natural or forced?

[Skane]

Spoiler for Ep08 stuff:

Killer Origami?

ORZ

What's she going to do? Paper-cut Matsuri to death?

Natch.

[Icerack]

Spoiler for ep8:

I think alot of things have been proven in this ep. Yorito's forgotten everything of what happened the night before, a.k.a memories got erased. Mayuko turns out to be a Yaka as expected. Aono most definitely has mind control powers and I base this on the scene where Aono convinces Yorito that Matsuri is not around anymore. She is one scary person to be around!

Can't wait till next ep.. looks like Aono and Matsuri are going to beat the crap out of each other.

[serenade_beta]

Now that I've finished watching this episode...

Spoiler for Episode 8:

Great episode... and a freaky one. One of the most disturbing moments was when Yorito was screaming and thrashing around followed with Aono getting burned in the sun. Whew......
So this episode confirms that Mayuko and Aono are Yakas.
Mayuko knows Matsuri is a Yaka and vice-versa.
To my surprise, or maybe not, Mana plays a big role in this episode including helping Yorito home, constantly visiting Yorito's home, and most of all, snapping Yorito out of his trance and showing him the picture of Matsuri (taken by Sae).
Aono can manipulate Yorito's memories. She's probably done this before too.
Aono can control paper/origami.

Next episode-A fight? I hope Yorito doesn't go and interupt until it is over. And Mana? She's with Yorito, so she might see some interesting things...

[Kaioshin Sama]

So:

Spoiler:

Either We are looking at a catfight (MROOOW! Hey Kitty!) or this series just turned into Read or Die.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Another great episode. Keep 'em coming. And we have four more episodes to go?

Spoiler for comments on ep8 that I'd prefer not to spoiler but will follow this particular forum's custom in:

I still feel sympathy for Aono, but I won't mind if she dies. I think Matsuri feels guilty about still being so near Yorito, breaking her promise to Aono. We still don't know the whole past story. But we do know Aono is quite mad (in the sense of crazy). Great voice work by Nakahara Mai. I feel Aono's anguish.

I expect the appearance of Yorito will block the full fight. I'm one of the few who prefers this. I also think bearded guy knows this place as a hideout and may also show up. I wonder whose side he will be on, if any.

This episode may not have told us anything we hadn't figured out already, but the angst in Yorito's room (GJ Okamoto Nobuhiko), and Mana (GJ Honda Youko), and Mayuko (GJ Kaneda Tomoko) made it all work for me.

[Omniscient]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

Another great episode. Keep 'em coming. And we have four more episodes to go?

Five more for 13 total, plus two DVD exclusive.

[octoberasian]

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

*cracks fingers* let see what happens this ep

Spoiler:

not even 10 secs into the ep and already we get a WTF event...after stabbing matsuri yorito wakes up to find himself in the classroom...he then says in a puzzled voice: "a dream???"



later that day yorito is talking to mana but has a sudden flashback to a scene what happened last night...he then forgets about what he was talking to mana about and she thinks that he is sick...hes getting his memories messed around so it seems...



a few seconds later she makes another connection with the "rain" and "towel" last night...so much so it triggers another flashback which causes him to fall over feeling dizzy ~



mana takes him home...he lies down on the sofa while mana goes to get a towel ~ aono thanks yorito and asks if he is alrite...yorito asks aono about yesterday and she tells him "truthfully" ~ he asks if they met anyone yesterday and aono answers "who?" with a troubled expression



...yorito cant remember but he knows that he is forgetting something important...aono then tells him to go sleep...and he does O.o just like that...aono then take him to his room while telling a puzzed mana to go home...

they both say oyasumi and aono leaves...



then that night we see loli tan and matsuri walking...Mayuko tells matsuri not to push it soo far...but she ignores her...Mayuko then takes matsuri to a train cargo...there they rest for the night ~ but before they chat...an oh my god we have it confirmed! Mayuko is a YAKA!! ~ here we see her burning up trying to get to the shade and it was matsuri who saved her just as she was about to pass out...Mayuko asks if its really alrite for matsuri not to go to hospital but she just throws back the same question...matsuri then asks if she is sure that she doesnt want to go back to takashi...and she is sure that she doesnt want to have anything to do with him...

and matsuri still has a promise unfulfilled...



the next day koyori and mana comes to visit...as they were about to leave aono opens the door...aono tells them that yorito is sick and closes the door...(okey minus points for being mean >___<)



yorito sits in bed and it totally dull out of his mind...he tells aono that he knows matsuri but aono insists that it way just a weird dream...aono then leaves and starts crying ~ i know this feeling...shes definitly saying "why cant yorito forget about matsuri" in her head...



the next day...yorito is still off from school and mana tells her friend that he is sick...
mana's other friend then comes in and shows them some "hot news"...mana is shocked...she asks where she managed to take the picture and then she says that it was by coincidence...



mana then asks for a copy of that picture and then leaves...
she goes to yorito's house and demands to see yorito...aono says that she isnt allowed and when mana tells her that she knows where matsuri is aono tries to slap the door on her...telling her to "leave!"



mana then tells her to at least tell yorito that matsuri is still around and that its because matsuri is an important person...this pisses aono off and she pushes mana away...causeing her hand to smoke in the sun...OMG! another confirmation! AONO IS ALSO A YAKA!



mana asks what the hell that was but aono just closes the door...mana is just confused as hell O.o

in the afternoon we see takashi searching...i duno how he found that place but he did...



then we see in a nightmare (which turned out to be yorito's) matsuri being stabbed...he freaks as aono struggles to hold him...



he then imagines matsuri turning into stone and crumbling...which causes him to spaz out even more O.o



and holy crap...yorito in a fit of mindless rage pulls the curtains off which causes aono to burn!! that one badass scream...while yorito is just left mindless...



aono tells yorito that matsuri isnt here anymore ~ he finally calms down and falls to his ass...aono apologises for causing so much pain...and that he just wants to stay together...



flashback time!! i presume this is how yorito died...all aono wants now is just to stay by yorito...she puts him to bed and tells him that they will talk later...but when she leaves all yorito says is that "matsuri isnt here..."



mana then sneaks into the house and find yorito's room a mess...she tries to snap him out of it but hes not responding at all...all he can say is that "matsuri is not here anymore"



freaked out mana slaps him and shows him the picture...he wakes up at last!!



moving onto matsuri we see her standing up looking at the moon...yorito the takes mana on a bike ride...to where matsuri is...

matsuri is then seen walking out of the cargo and is attacked by paper planes! (LOLZ!)
no doubt its aono...she is going to kill her! ~ ~

crap now my fingers are hurting and i need a rest @__@ will post my thoughts later ~

Re: Ep.8

Spoiler:

Ok... *catches his breath* ok... this episode confirms a lot of things:

1. Aono and Mayuko are finally confirmed to be Yakas.
2. Aono is both desperate and very jealous.
3. Aono can and does control and manipulate Yorito's memories.

The scene with the collapsed roof, I think that pretty much confirms how Yorito died. Though as cruel as Aono is, which I do think she is, I do feel bad for her since she lost someone she loved and cared so much about in one night. However, her love for Yorito as well as the pain she has had over losing him has pretty much overtaken her-- both emotionally and mentally. I was right that Aono, no matter how much she tries so hard to control and manipulate Yorito's memories, there is no way she can manipulate what's deep down in his heart: Matsuri. If she has been on Yorito's mind centuries ago, then Matsuri will be on his mind centuries later.

Yorito kept getting flashbacks and wondering if anything happened last and if he met anyone. Aono kept telling him, Matsuri isn't here, isn't real, it was just a weird dream, and so on. At that point, I pretty much knew that Aono has gone too far in getting what she wants: Yorito. This isn't love, this is pretty much having it consume all of Aono now. She wonders how come she can't get make Yorito forget about Matsuri. Aono doesn't realize that it is impossible no matter how much she tries. I wonder how many times she revived Yorito, or if it is only once she did so and how she did it now. I was somewhat right on my fear I mentioned in the Ep.7 thread: Aono would go so far to try to erase Matsuri from his memory. And she did do that, but luckily not the past 3 months I think. However, it does look like it, because he cannot clearly recall Matsuri at first until Mana showed him a picture of it.

We see Mana now suspects something going with Aono, as well as the possibility she now thinks Aono is a Yaka. I thank Mana for checking up on Yorito and going so far to risk herself to see if he's alright. And, in the end, it took only ONE picture to have Yorito snap out of whatever Aono spell/magic she put him under, which I think she did.

More of my sympathy is towards Matsuri and Yorito after what both have gone through, and little on Aono, who is already over the edge by now. Next episode we get to see a rather interesting fight between two Yakas unless Yorito can stop the two. The worst part: Aono is fighting a rather wounded and somewhat weak Matsuri.

I'm cheering for Matsuri in the next episode.

[Telliamed]

I'm not too happy with this episode. Doesn't necessarily mean I'll rate it low (although I have other reasons to do that)

The first and last two minutes both had me saying things that would require the little smiling guy from Hayate no Gotoku.

Spoiler for continuation from ep7:

Fortunately, they weren't so asinine to drag-out the "was it a dream" suspense too long. Once Yorito collapsed, a started to feel a little better about where they were going with it.

Unfortunately, nothing much happened after that until the last five minutes. Just a lot of emo while the plot took a smoke-break. The only revelations were...

Spoiler:

How Matsuri met Mayuko. Yorito originally died in a house collapse (nominations for lamest way to die and stupidest reason to commit suicide). And Matsuri feels guilty for leaving Yorito. All the rest we've already been able to guess. It was no mystery that Mayuko was a yaka, or that Aono was manipulating Yorito's memory. And then they end with another cliffhanger. Bad move.

I'm also frustrated that we still know very little about Takeshi and Mayuko. And I felt they didn't do enough with Mana's reaction to Aono.

Meanwhile, on the technical side, the artwork has fallen off again. Misshapen faces, awkward animation. And during one of the classroom scenes, I couldn't take my eyes off a guy in the background standing with his mouth open. At least the music was all good this time.

But perhaps my biggest gripe...

Spoiler:

I'm a huge R.O.D. fan, and I don't appreciate this cheap bastardization of a Paper Master.

Oh, I hate Aono now.
And as cute as Matsuri is, the girl has some serious commitment issues. I don't know if she's really worth it, Yorito. Look at Mana, she cooks for you, drags you home when you're ill, and doesn't even mind a little B+E. The perfect woman. I've been on her side from the start.

(I'm also a bit put-off because I'm having to change my schedule this week. I'll be away the next two days so I couldn't wait for the HD version and I've got to be up early in the morning... hey! what am I doing posting on the internet? I should be asleep already)

[Mueti]

Spoiler:

Finally it's official that Yorito's memory is being messed with. I was quite sure of it since the Aono and Yorito on the Hill - scene in episode 7. And Aono really seemed to be serious when she told Yorito that she only wants to spare him from pain. So maybe Matsuri did make him seriously suffer in the past and she knows it will happen again...but she looks just to damn jealous to me, she doesn't even seem to realize the pain she's inflicting might be much worse than what she's trying to protect Yorito from.
Besides, Matsuri probably wasn't at fault for Yorito's death if he died in a collapsing building, no?

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

Spoiler:

I expect the appearance of Yorito will block the full fight. I'm one of the few who prefers this.

I also hope that will happen.

And once again it ended with a cliffhanger, seems I won't wait for the HD-Raw next week as well. >.>

[aeriolewinters]

Spoiler for seriously:

the fact that Yorito and Mana are rushing towards the scene, is clear indication that we will see stoppage. But when will this occur?

[Icerack]

Oh, I hate Aono now.
And as cute as Matsuri is, the girl has some serious commitment issues. I don't know if she's really worth it, Yorito. Look at Mana, she cooks for you, drags you home when you're ill, and doesn't even mind a little B+E. The perfect woman. I've been on her side from the start.

Yes, out of all three girls, I think Mana is best suited for him. But unfortunately, it seems that she's just some sidekick character and I really don't see any more character development in her direction for the rest of the series. But we may never know... there may be a few surprises.

[Deathkillz]

okey right now im going to find it really hard to protect aono...

Spoiler:

so yorito didnt die or doesnt seem to have died because of matsuri...aono just took her own life because she doesnt want to be left in a world without yorito but matsuri was being a goodie two shoes and revived the dead aono...

i cant say that aono is crazy/psycho...but rather she is just obsessed with yorito...and this obsession caused her to do crazy things...im sure that its true love but at the same time i also get that true love isnt always right...yorito clearly doesnt see aono in any other way than a big sister...

but even so i didnt think aono would have minded...as long as she is with yorito ~ however when in comes matsuri she finds her relationship with yorito at threat and hence tired to give matsuri a warning...rightly so because aono was here first while matsuri is second...a simple case of "first come first serve" ~ but the inevitable happens as yorito and matsuri is fated to be together...aono is just clearly trying to go against fate...and now we have a death match situation...