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ShadowsAsgard · 2012-02-08, 13:40

Cruz's original reason for disguising himself was to evade detection at St. Rose. After that it was to avoid drawing Simeon's attention to himself and to use his PGS ID Card whenever it was useful. Once it becomes common knowledge that 'Yamada' is actually Cruz - and events are already heading that way - his ID Card will probably be cancelled and his disguise won't protect him anymore. Basically pretending to be female won't help him anymore.

yuzen003 · 2012-02-08, 17:57

Most of the people who know Cruz = Yamada have reasons to not revealing the truth, they are all guilty of helping him despite knowing Arclight wanted him captured. Blade is pretty close to the Simeon HQ so the need to hide may be over anyways.

Avvesione · 2012-02-08, 18:07

^
Problem with that though is Blade probably won't let Cruz change out of that Girls Squad uniform. Kinda funny that when he doesn't need it anymore, he won't be able to change out of it lol

Soji · 2012-02-08, 18:10

^Then his only hope will be Eve...maybe

Skieth · 2012-02-09, 00:26

^There's always Teruyama..........

Nope he's stuck.

Avvesione · 2012-02-09, 00:42

Can't help but feel bad for Cruz. Poor kid.

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Also, kinda off topic, but you know how I ordered Ultra Jump last month when we were having trouble getting the chapter? Well, I was really happy with their service, speed, and price, so I actually have a subscription (6 months) now that will be shipped via air mail each month now, so I'll be getting chapters soon after they release (like maybe the 21st of this month for the next issue). Hopefully there won't be any future delays but if there are, we have a back-up option.

Skieth · 2012-02-09, 01:04

That's great, really appreciate it Avvesione. I know we're all looking forward to these next few chapters, so its nice to know we have a safety net in case there's another delay with the raws. Hope Kami includes something extra for his chapter 100 release.

Avvesione · 2012-02-09, 03:05

^
What I think will happen is other artists in Ultra Jump will have congratulation pages for him and Needless and they'll draw characters (in their own art style of course) and have a little mini-celebration. Not to mention Volume 14 comes out around the same time, too.

But actually, I'll probably be in Japan at that time. Might be a little different that month but I should be getting Ultra Jumps from here till July.

Ynot · 2012-02-12, 13:04

^ At the very least we'll be able to get a good description if we hit another "drought" again. So that's already enough to be happy about. Going to Japan looks like a lot of fun. Since you already have a very good source for manga I guess it won't matter much to you, but if it were me I'd stock up on a lot of titles and do some air-mail for myself

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Just uploaded chapter 46 to the Pew pew site.

Spoiler for 46/98:

Avvesione · 2012-02-12, 15:35

Thanks for the new chapter Ynot and js06! Some pretty interesting conversations in that chapter. Certainly the most intriguing was on 099. Might be a fun topic for debate if people think that it could possibly relate to Cruz or not.

And to answer your question Ynot:

Spoiler:

Soji · 2012-02-12, 15:38

^the ch it's out ..I mean 46..I goin to read and then say what i think. but for now ..thanks for the ch Ynot and js06.

Edit: Read ch 46.

Spoiler for 46:

Skieth · 2012-02-12, 17:53

Thanks for the new chapter Ynot, and everybody at Pew Pew. I thoroughly enjoyed your "Steve" joke.

@Avvesione, I'd like to hear your thought about what Obito said on 099.

Avvesione · 2012-02-13, 04:38

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Originally Posted by Skieth

@Avvesione, I'd like to hear your thought about what Obito said on 099.

Certainly.

Spoiler:

The text of interest reads:

"He Himself does not wish to be resurrected."

If that statement is true, which can be debated, then it might mean the Second Christ does not want to return to the world where he had been killed by Triple Six to be their slave. If he is able to resurrect himself, it's likely that he would not appear in either Arclight or Blade's bodies at the time of the Adam Project. Sure, Blade's initial personality was heroic and saintly but it's unlikely that the Second Christ ever joined up with Blade's body, especially with how he behaves now.

So, if the Second Christ could resurrect into someone's body, who would it be? You probably already knew where I was going with this before I even finished the last sentence, but isn't it possible that the Second Christ entered within Cruz's body when he was brought back to life? That is to say he did not take over Cruz's body and soul but rather become a part of Cruz. But why Cruz? Perhaps the Second saw how intelligent, compassionate, and thoughtful Cruz was compared to everyone else and thought it would be the ideal body to return in. Second, we know Saten has a stronger connection to Triple Six than Simeon and it could be that his goal was to find a body for the Second Christ to resurrect in. It could help explain why Saten allowed Cruz to die and then get healed by Eve.

Now suppose this is true. Suppose that is what Disk saw in Cruz at the beginning of the City arc and why she only told Blade and Eve about the secret. They realize that letting Cruz get caught by Triple Six would be disastrous which is why they knocked Cruz out when they were departing to the City. The theory could also be used in the whole "gentle hands of light"/stopping Aruka during her attack/ANn appearance/superhuman strength(or endurance or survivibility)/whatever.

Of course, this idea still has a few holes in it which have yet to be worked out but it's a rough concept at this stage, especially after just reading the chapter and piecing things together from various parts. I haven't fully bought into the theory yet but if there is more evidence and it holds up against some other areas of the manga, I might look into the idea more than I do now.

Soji · 2012-02-13, 04:57

Avvesione@That's sure it's interesting.

Spoiler for spoiler:

LeaD36 · 2012-02-13, 06:36

So i picked this up yesterday, and sofar i've only got a single question about this manga : why haven't been the chapters of the past arc + arclight IV been scanned? o0

Soji · 2012-02-13, 06:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeaD36

So i picked this up yesterday, and sofar i've only got a single question about this manga : why haven't been the chapters of the past arc + arclight IV been scanned? o0

I try to answer. For what I recall this was because ... the anime the story was more or less the same minust some thing.
So they choice to focus on the most new ch

But like you see they now do this as well, then again the groups who translated chapters were different at that times.

pir · 2012-02-13, 10:59

I have question. Saten said what he cant defeat only Arclight and Strom. What about Riru? How he can defeat Psychokinesis?

DarkSkiper · 2012-02-13, 11:01

^Using a badass pose and smoking..... But seriously I also don't see how, but he did say his ability didn't WORK on Arclinght and Strom, not that he can't beat them.

Soji · 2012-02-13, 11:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSkiper

^Using a badass pose and smoking..... But seriously I also don't see how.

Honestly I wonder who can defeat her O_O

DarkSkiper · 2012-02-13, 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soji

Honestly I wonder who can defeat her O_O

Well 1 person I know for sure and that is Arclight the otheres.... can only speculate...
Maybe someone from 666 commity, well The Second if he was alive, maybe Cruz when/if he/she get a fragment...

2012-02-08, 18:07	Link #7883
Avvesione Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	^ Problem with that though is Blade probably won't let Cruz change out of that Girls Squad uniform. Kinda funny that when he doesn't need it anymore, he won't be able to change out of it lol __________________ Anime Blog: http://avvesione.wordpress.com/ Twitter: @Avvesione

2012-02-09, 00:42	Link #7886
Avvesione Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	Can't help but feel bad for Cruz. Poor kid. --- Also, kinda off topic, but you know how I ordered Ultra Jump last month when we were having trouble getting the chapter? Well, I was really happy with their service, speed, and price, so I actually have a subscription (6 months) now that will be shipped via air mail each month now, so I'll be getting chapters soon after they release (like maybe the 21st of this month for the next issue). Hopefully there won't be any future delays but if there are, we have a back-up option. __________________ Anime Blog: http://avvesione.wordpress.com/ Twitter: @Avvesione

2012-02-09, 03:05	Link #7888
Avvesione Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	^ What I think will happen is other artists in Ultra Jump will have congratulation pages for him and Needless and they'll draw characters (in their own art style of course) and have a little mini-celebration. Not to mention Volume 14 comes out around the same time, too. But actually, I'll probably be in Japan at that time. Might be a little different that month but I should be getting Ultra Jumps from here till July. __________________ Anime Blog: http://avvesione.wordpress.com/ Twitter: @Avvesione

2012-02-12, 13:04	Link #7889
Ynot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010	^ At the very least we'll be able to get a good description if we hit another "drought" again. So that's already enough to be happy about. Going to Japan looks like a lot of fun. Since you already have a very good source for manga I guess it won't matter much to you, but if it were me I'd stock up on a lot of titles and do some air-mail for myself --- Just uploaded chapter 46 to the Pew pew site. Spoiler for 46/98: I can't remember whether the reason why Blade is less powerful than Arclight was mentioned in the anime, but it sure is interesting to see considering Seth's Eden seed injection was terminated early.

2012-02-12, 15:35	Link #7890
Avvesione Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	Thanks for the new chapter Ynot and js06! Some pretty interesting conversations in that chapter. Certainly the most intriguing was on 099. Might be a fun topic for debate if people think that it could possibly relate to Cruz or not. And to answer your question Ynot: Spoiler: Just rewatched the few scenes in the anime where this happens and Gido says they had to keep the concentration of Eden's Seeds to a minimum for it to work. They also had some other information in there that wasn't present in the manga but it was just additional details that really didn't mean much (ie, using a different catalyst during the experiment to reduce the rate of fusion, etc) The rest of the scene was pretty different compared to the manga but that bit of information hadn't changed at all. __________________ Anime Blog: http://avvesione.wordpress.com/ Twitter: @Avvesione

2012-02-08, 13:40	Link #7881
ShadowsAsgard Member Join Date: Jan 2012	Cruz's original reason for disguising himself was to evade detection at St. Rose. After that it was to avoid drawing Simeon's attention to himself and to use his PGS ID Card whenever it was useful. Once it becomes common knowledge that 'Yamada' is actually Cruz - and events are already heading that way - his ID Card will probably be cancelled and his disguise won't protect him anymore. Basically pretending to be female won't help him anymore.

2012-02-08, 17:57	Link #7882
yuzen003 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: USA	Most of the people who know Cruz = Yamada have reasons to not revealing the truth, they are all guilty of helping him despite knowing Arclight wanted him captured. Blade is pretty close to the Simeon HQ so the need to hide may be over anyways.

2012-02-08, 18:10	Link #7884
Soji Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Europe	^Then his only hope will be Eve...maybe

2012-02-09, 00:26	Link #7885
Skieth Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011	^There's always Teruyama.......... Nope he's stuck.

2012-02-09, 01:04	Link #7887
Skieth Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011	That's great, really appreciate it Avvesione. I know we're all looking forward to these next few chapters, so its nice to know we have a safety net in case there's another delay with the raws. Hope Kami includes something extra for his chapter 100 release.

2012-02-12, 15:38	Link #7891
Soji Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Europe	^the ch it's out ..I mean 46..I goin to read and then say what i think. but for now ..thanks for the ch Ynot and js06. Edit: Read ch 46. Spoiler for 46: That's was interesting.So that's why Blade seem to be weaker than AA. I had to admit you had to feel for Gido about what happen to Kasumi. And good to know more about the SC and how he die(it seem they really say us the whole thing). Now I even more curios to know about Cruz I mean after this ch(like Avvesione say the thing they say about blade can be use on Cruz as well if Eve really give some of her ES to him that or he not take so much PFZERO blast that time). Will be really interesting ch 47 when will be out and next ch of this month. Last edited by Soji; 2012-02-12 at 16:18.

2012-02-12, 17:53	Link #7892
Skieth Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011	Thanks for the new chapter Ynot, and everybody at Pew Pew. I thoroughly enjoyed your "Steve" joke. @Avvesione, I'd like to hear your thought about what Obito said on 099.

2012-02-13, 04:57	Link #7894
Soji Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Europe	Avvesione@That's sure it's interesting. Spoiler for spoiler: There is always the chane that the Second choice Cruz a his successor?(if you 're theory become true). But something like this sure would explain some thing happen in the manga. Let's hope that the new ch give us some new clue.

2012-02-13, 06:36	Link #7895
LeaD36 LeaDfactor Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hungary, Budapest Age: 33	So i picked this up yesterday, and sofar i've only got a single question about this manga : why haven't been the chapters of the past arc + arclight IV been scanned? o0

2012-02-13, 10:59	Link #7897
pir Member Join Date: Jan 2012	I have question. Saten said what he cant defeat only Arclight and Strom. What about Riru? How he can defeat Psychokinesis?

2012-02-13, 11:01	Link #7898
DarkSkiper Evil Mage Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: There...no, not there.Yes, there! Age: 32	^Using a badass pose and smoking..... But seriously I also don't see how, but he did say his ability didn't WORK on Arclinght and Strom, not that he can't beat them.