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2013-06-22, 02:39 | Link #1302 | |
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Let's not forget that Raiser is still only a pure blood high class Devil from the Phoenix clan, which makes him pretty strong, but Ise is a dragon / devil hybrid that has the existence of Ophis and Great Red within him. In my opinion, no matter how hard Raiser trains, he won't be capable of becoming a threat to Ise, who's potential is a lot higher then Raiser's. Last edited by Chris38; 2013-06-22 at 02:51. |
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2013-06-22, 03:05 | Link #1304 |
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I don't understand your question. Raiser is a strong devil who has served his purpose in the story, his record as a devil is 8 wins 2 losses with those 2 losses coming because of politics. He was already a fairly strong devil before he met Issei now he's probably a little stronger so he'd be fine vs other teams but not against top 40 competition. Getting a bishop won't matter since traditionally they're support pieces. What Raisers strategy in games were, like what I'm guessing is what most teams use, is have his pieces duke it out and tire then have his queen finish the job. Raisers pieces as a whole were fairly weak in comparison to Rias' he has quantity but lacks quality.
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2013-06-22, 03:20 | Link #1305 | |
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Now that I think about it all Longinus are equal in power now even the boosted gear, divide dividing and regulus which mid lvl Longinus is equal now in top tier maybe the reason is that every current user especially those 3 have unique traits or trains hard to finish their goals. If that's true even low lvl Longinus can beat the higher tier Longinus depend on how they used err sorry if its bit confusing coz I notice that issei Longinus is mid tier still he can beat the ultimate Longinus tier in working hard and planning ahead Edit: He could ask azrael if he can get artificial sacred gear for his team if he can :P knowing our azrael
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2013-06-22, 03:32 | Link #1306 |
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Where did this Raiser training thing come from? He spent months being a shut-in, and only spent a few days training with dragons to overcome his phobia. He didn't show any inclination to continue with the training after his problem was dealt with.
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2013-06-22, 03:36 | Link #1307 | |
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Edit: Yes in the past but ajuka also mention that the current Longinus are having Longinus the example issei vs Cao Cao, mid tier boosted gear vs ultimate Longinus, in the past all power of Longinus is static also azrael also said in vol 15 that all Longinus are experience an evolution due to the user will and tenacity
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2013-06-22, 03:38 | Link #1308 | |
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2013-06-22, 03:51 | Link #1309 | |
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Issei helped him with his problem, but I can't find any quotes that mention him continuing the training thing afterwards. The Longinus aren't equal, and your quote doesn't even make sense. Your basically agreeing, but phrased like your disagreeing with irrelevent factoids. The Longinus weren't equal before, and the growth thing just makes it even more unpredictable. |
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2013-06-22, 03:57 | Link #1310 | |
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I wonder what are the unanswer question in novel that haven't discuss I'm completely out of question, speculation and theory ..... I hope that future volume we will see agares I hope she has a dragon type of servant
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2013-06-22, 04:05 | Link #1311 | |
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2013-06-30, 08:10 | Link #1314 |
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IIRC in the lastest vol it didn't clarified the full capability of Ise dragonoid body.
All we know is that Ise body is in a unstable condition, we have yet to find out the different between his new dragonoid body and his devil body.
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2013-07-01, 16:20 | Link #1315 | |
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For Sona team, incredibly yes, they are much better than on paper. That is something abnormal for High Class Devil. Ravel mentioned that High Class Devils most don't and will not train they rather depend on their genetic talents and will trade their servants like one would trade on a video sport game. They are excellent at tactics. They fought evenly with Gremory group for a good while, but they still lost regardless. Also, if it were not for Ise giving pity for Saji thus allowing the fight to be prolonged for a while results could have been one sided. Ise would have not retired due to blood loss, rather he would continue to fight and no one on the Sitri group can fight against him. If Gremory and Sitri had a rematch, it could be definitely one sided. The numbers has change for both side, Rossweisse can single handy barrage an entire war zone thus destroying any attempts of surprise attacks and traps. Due to the maturity and experience factor of the members with mostly Ise throwing the ideals of friendship on the battlefield, Gremory team fights like a special ops squad rather than a team playing a game. Xenovia, once a power house now coupled that power house with the other abilities of Excalibur, its a done deal. Coupled with Gasper, Koneko, Rias and Akeno gaining power ups in particularly Rias and Akeno and maybe Koneko, there is a aspect of surprise there. Tactics can overcome power disadvantage, but for a team like the Gremory group they can make that statement into nothing for most enemies. Enough about the rating games. What are everyone's thoughts on volume 17, Rossweisse volume? Anyone think that Rossweisse's sisters will appear in the volume? Last edited by ReaperxKingx; 2013-07-01 at 16:50. |
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2013-07-01, 17:36 | Link #1316 |
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I don't know, but all is possible in DxD Universe, I am sure that Rossweisse and Issei will improve their relationship to put her officially inside the harem, because she has not slept with Issei still, I expect that Issei save her family, although i dont know if will save them economically or maybe save them of a danger. hahahaha
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Hopefully she gets what she deserves, a nice life and a boyfriend (its most likely Ise, so she needs to be wary of Rias' backlash). |
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Though I really hate and I really hate the moment of the "so called if situation", in this situation one must wonder if it was just a straight up battle of attrition, would the battle of Gremory group and Sitri be as heated as it was? As for the rematch, it depends on situation. If the situation demands power be taken away to evaluate tactics than it would be a hard fight for the Gremory though I believe they can still win despite having Moderate level tactics and will be able to use their power in a way where it isn't overwhelming due to experience of actual combat more so than all the young Devils in my opinion. If, however, (hate using the if world so much) a situation where it is similar to a real battlefield then Gremory group wins decisively. We've Sitri group struggle the most in real combat situations where they are overwhelmed by either dirty tactics use by the Hero Brigade or just being overpowered like when they were in Kyoto (abeit without their Queen and King). A straight battle, no holds barred, with either the Gremory Group or Baal group would suffer in their defeat. Quote:
Though I know of the present Vampire race being on stage, I am just more interest in Norse mythology and how it can be incorporated in the story. |
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Beginning of arc>Skirmish>refelection>echi>in house drama>echi>character developement>echi>training>foreshadowing of next enemy>big battle>echi power up>fight over>echi>conclusion>rinse and repeat. Most of the time like with CaoCao or Khaos Brigade there are clues(that aren't necessarily hidden let's be honest Ishibumi is no Paluchniak or Ellis) spread around the story. For now we know that Vampires are a potential enemy, so I'm betting that the main enemy of the next volume will be the same as the one in vol.17. Considering the norse people of way back when they'd respect the christian faction as long as they are strong.
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