2012-10-18, 21:54 | Link #41 | |
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So, to guard against that, I'm actually completely with AuraTwilight here - If you're going to stick to the PMMM-verse after the movies and do more shows in it, then go with a completely new cast. Think "Madoka Magica: The Next Generation!", and go into the future a bit, with a brand new cast.
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2012-10-19, 09:11 | Link #43 |
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Going by what we already have, oriko magica written by gen and kazumi supervised by gen, the results have been pretty good, by themselves they are not as good as the madoka arc, but they expand into the universe and show us more possibilities without ruining anything.
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2012-10-20, 23:29 | Link #45 |
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Alright, think about it, though. Gen says he wants new writers for the new series, which could be good or bad. IMHO I'm hoping it means someone out there with a completely different take on the PMMM premise could make this worth our while. It could even be a story that has PMMM's basic premise and theory but not directly linked to the TV series, maybe a completely different world and storyline from the original. A "Spiritual Successor" of the series so to speak, but one that doesn't have to link to Withces, Soul Gems, Incubators et al but still keeping the feel of the original series intact
You know, how like Bioshock was a spiritual successor of System Shock...(that reference might go over the heads of anyone who hasn't played PC games in the 90's) The thing is that the whole reveal about Witches and Magical Girls was the main punch of the series--fans already know about that, so a new series will not have as much impact. The writer should try something different enough so that most of us won't see it coming. One last thing: Star Wars was not the only case of this. Fans of Wing Commander will remember (painfully) the movie that was actually directed by the game's original creator...
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2012-10-21, 10:21 | Link #48 | |
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You know, I wonder if a discussion like this went down... Shinbo: Thanks to Madoka Magica and the Monogatari series, SHAFT is now rolling in dough! Maybe we'll actually be able to get episodes done on time and with consistent animation quality from now on. Gen: I'm glad the partnership worked for both of us. Now, time to clue up my PMMM story with the third movie. Shinbo: ... Clue it up? I knew you were dark, but I didn't think you were crazy! We should milk this for all it's worth. Gen: I've told the story I wanted to tell with the end of the third movie. It was a very rewarding story that I wanted to tell, but I've simply done everything I want to do with it. Shinbo: But, but... No! That won't do. Do you realize how big PMMM can be? As an anime original production, we can go wherever we want with this! Gen: Yes, you can, but I'm not. I'm done after the third movie, Shinbo. Shinbo: So... you're saying you'd let other people write extensions and spin-offs for your story? Gen: Yes. Shinbo: Well, I guess that'll do then. I'm going to get my PMMM Slice of Life show after all!
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2012-10-21, 11:06 | Link #49 |
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Having watched both Madoka Movies (ALL HAIL TAIWAN VIEWSHOW CINEMA CHAIN!!) and the trailer for Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes (ALL HAIL YOUTUBE!!!) back to back, some random thoughts:
1) Since the Kyubey-Madoka / Kyubey-Homura segments shows that the Madoka franchise is filled with Philosphical-Angst cut-scenes, I wonder what would happen if the franchise is handed to Hideo Kojima..... 2) A "Tactical Espionage Action" Sneaking Game focused on Homura's growth from a timid wallflower with a Time-Displacement-Device into a Magical Warrior using Kojima's Fox Engine..... That would fricking ROCK!! 3) Would Homura-chan do as well in the jungles of Russia against The Cobra-Brigade/Volgin/The Shagohod/The Boss if she is put in Snake's position? Snake has single-handedly beaten multiple giant montrosities with heavy-firepower just like Homura-chan has; how would HE fare against the witches if he's put in Homura-chan's position? 4) Come to think about it; paint me crazy. A brooding and philosphical yet rip-roaring action-packed Madoka series helmed by Hideo Kojima would kick ass!! Ah, the power of insomnia.
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2012-10-22, 10:40 | Link #51 |
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I honestly can't imagine what's gonna happen to Madoka without the supervision of Gen. I just want it to be just him, and only him to write for the main story of Pmmm, if ever it's going to be a continuation of the 3rd film. I am okay if someone else handles it if it's just a spin-off, a SOL preferably. But the original storyline should be done by him still DX
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2012-10-22, 11:00 | Link #52 |
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While not Hideo Kojima taking the Madoka helm? As shown with the Metal Gear Solid Franchise, he is JUST as capable (if not moreso than) Urobuchi of piling the tragedy, melodrama and human-emotions a mile-high, tearing your heart out and stomping on it until you cry.... and making you LIKE it too!!
A scary thought: Urobuchi Ken directing the next Metal Gear Solid Game with his own unique brand of cruelty.... Just DON'T let him ANYWHERE NEAR The Boss prequel ; the poor Lady has suffered QUITE enough, thank you very much.
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2012-10-22, 11:39 | Link #54 |
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You're giving Gen way too much credit here, and I say that in all fairness to the guy. These are team efforts that require a lot of work and input from everyone. Gen may have been the "head script guy", but he didn't handle things like artistic direction, sound, voice acting, and many of the other elements that went into making the show great. He probably wasn't the only writer either, especially since it was his first anime script. He did have a lot of creative control, but all I'm trying to say is that if Gen is willing to put his faith in other writers, we as fans should at least be willing to give them some faith too.
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2012-10-22, 12:02 | Link #55 | |
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I'm pretty sure there are a lot of better writers than him who might be capable of continuing his story. But it's always better if he still does it because it's his. Ugh, do you get what I mean?
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2012-10-22, 12:21 | Link #56 | |
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2012-10-22, 13:39 | Link #58 | |
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I'm really not worried that more Madoka will be a bad thing. Shaft is a proven studio with great talent and good financial backing. I truly doubt Gen will simply walk away from the franchise after selecting additional writers. He'll probably move into creative control instead.
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2012-10-22, 14:02 | Link #59 | |
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As long as the cash flows, it will last for a certain degree, but whether the public will welcome the changes (should there is any) or not is a complete different story.
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2012-10-22, 14:41 | Link #60 | |
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My whole point is that people are seeing "Gen is looking for writers" and extrapolating that to "Gen is going to turn into George Lucas", and there's really no basis to believe that because his role will diminish or that it will diminish the franchise with the changing of seats. We need more information before the worrying can be justified.
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