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Darknemo2000 · 2011-04-25, 02:09

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Originally Posted by Nemuru

lI do find it more suitable for parents to be together... of course that is just me.

Then she should be with the one who fathers Lotte, shouldn't she? Well anyways, boring discussion is getting boring as we are driving in circles anyway. I'll stop at this.

Nemuru · 2011-04-25, 02:32

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Originally Posted by Darknemo2000

Then she should be with the one who fathers Lotte, shouldn't she? Well anyways, boring discussion is getting boring as we are driving in circles anyway. I'll stop at this.

I was actually thinking of Asuha ^^,

Wargumm1i · 2011-04-25, 16:46

Wow the subject on Asuha, Lotte, Queen, Naoya´s relationships, and the mystery involving all 4 of them, is really a battlefield on this topic

I mean Lotte´s father is someone, Asuha being really Naoya´s daughter and not someone elses, which seems to be highly unlikely, since well. Asuha and Naoya both look exactly alike.

And yeah the second is how the queen birthed both Asuha and Lotte at the same "year or something". Which is not really that suprising since if im not correct the peroid is 6 months and the queen is an oversized slut that would just have a guy waiting beside the bed to fuck her as soon, as she gave birth.

I really wished they would quickly clear alot of details and continue on more interesting subjects, since this is not really all that interesting but rather getting weird.

Silaqui · 2011-04-25, 17:44

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Originally Posted by Wargumm1i

I really wished they would quickly clear alot of details and continue on more interesting subjects, since this is not really all that interesting but rather getting weird.

I think these are very interesting subjects!

How did the queen get pregnant from Naoya (somehow I can't believe it was the "old fashioned" way)?

Why did the queen bring Asuha with the age of three to her father?

Why can Asuha remember her mother, but not Lotte? They should have been together for at least two years. Or were they seperated?

Silaqui.

Shadow5YA · 2011-04-25, 17:58

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Originally Posted by Silaqui

I think these are very interesting subjects!

How did the queen get pregnant from Naoya (somehow I can't believe it was the "old fashioned" way)?

Why did the queen bring Asuha with the age of three to her father?

Why can Asuha remember her mother, but not Lotte? They should have been together for at least two years. Or were they seperated?

Silaqui.

No, Lotte remembers her mother very clearly. She was the one who chose to live separately after she witnessed her mother having sex while she was in bed with her. The trauma resulted in the two living separately.

The bigger question is why the Queen was in the human world, or if she even went there by choice. With how intricate the process is, it doesn't seem like people can travel between worlds anywhere or anytime they want. I wonder if the Queen somehow managed to get herself stranded in the human world. If she was there to have fun, then she should have had done it with more people than just a human child. So far the implication is that Naoya was the only human guy involved in this.

Darknemo2000 · 2011-04-25, 18:41

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Originally Posted by Wargumm1i

Wow the subject on Asuha, Lotte, Queen, Naoya´s relationships, and the mystery involving all 4 of them, is really a battlefield on this topic

I mean Lotte´s father is someone, Asuha being really Naoya´s daughter and not someone elses, which seems to be highly unlikely, since well. Asuha and Naoya both look exactly alike.

And yeah the second is how the queen birthed both Asuha and Lotte at the same "year or something". Which is not really that suprising since if im not correct the peroid is 6 months and the queen is an oversized slut that would just have a guy waiting beside the bed to fuck her as soon, as she gave birth.

I really wished they would quickly clear alot of details and continue on more interesting subjects, since this is not really all that interesting but rather getting weird.

Makes me wonder how many children does the queen really have. The number could well be much bigger, just those children who are not succubus get returned to their fathers.

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

The bigger question is why the Queen was in the human world, or if she even went there by choice. With how intricate the process is, it doesn't seem like people can travel between worlds anywhere or anytime they want. I wonder if the Queen somehow managed to get herself stranded in the human world. If she was there to have fun, then she should have had done it with more people than just a human child. So far the implication is that Naoya was the only human guy involved in this.

She got in there, more on the accident (had a quarrel with one of her lovers at the tree) but while she was in there she decided to have some fun. Raws actually seem to imply that she fucked or at least tried to a few more earthlings before getting to Naoya. Yet on earth her magic was not working.

Shadow5YA · 2011-04-25, 19:27

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Originally Posted by Darknemo2000

Makes me wonder how many children does the queen really have. The number could well be much bigger, just those children who are not succubus get returned to their fathers.

She got in there, more on the accident (had a quarrel with one of her lovers at the tree) but while she was in there she decided to have some fun. Raws actually seem to imply that she fucked or at least tried to a few more earthlings before getting to Naoya. Yet on earth her magic was not working.

That doesn't add up. If her magic isn't working, then she can't get back home. She was apparently alone. Even if she met Naoya by accident, it doesn't explain what gave her the magic power to get her back home afterwards, unless Naoya had some latent magic hidden within him that the queen discovered by accident.

Darknemo2000 · 2011-04-26, 00:45

Well if you want in details then here

Spoiler for spoiler:

Silaqui · 2011-04-26, 03:05

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

No, Lotte remembers her mother very clearly. She was the one who chose to live separately after she witnessed her mother having sex while she was in bed with her. The trauma resulted in the two living separately.

You misunderstood me. I was wondering why Asuha can't remember Lotte. She can remember her mother, but not her sister, although they should have spent at least two years together.

Silaqui.

Shadow5YA · 2011-04-26, 06:54

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Originally Posted by Darknemo2000

Well if you want in details then here

Spoiler for spoiler:

That doesn't make sense at all, unless Naoya is special.

Darknemo2000 · 2011-04-26, 10:34

I dont know if he is special or not. But since he reacted to it and queen got her powers back guess you can consider him being special.

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Originally Posted by Silaqui

You misunderstood me. I was wondering why Asuha can't remember Lotte. She can remember her mother, but not her sister, although they should have spent at least two years together.

Silaqui.

How much do you remember from your first two years? Pretty much nothing. Our memory usually starts to kick in more around 4. I really see no surprise her not remembering anything.

Nemuru · 2011-04-26, 10:37

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Originally Posted by Darknemo2000

I dont know if he is special or not. But since he reacted to it and queen got her powers back guess you can consider him being special.

lol, when was the last time you saw a normal male protagonist in a harem series that wasn't unique or special in some way? I be more surprise if he was just normal in every way.

Silaqui · 2011-04-26, 14:23

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Originally Posted by Darknemo2000

How much do you remember from your first two years? Pretty much nothing. Our memory usually starts to kick in more around 4. I really see no surprise her not remembering anything.

That's certainly true, but in chapter 10(?) Asuha could easily remember her mother. So I don't get it how Asuha can remember her mother, but has no memories of her sister.

Silaqui.

Shadow5YA · 2011-04-26, 14:49

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Originally Posted by Silaqui

That's certainly true, but in chapter 10(?) Asuha could easily remember her mother. So I don't get it how Asuha can remember her mother, but has no memories of her sister.

Silaqui.

I don't remember them being born at the same time. I thought Asuha was born first, and then left Naoya and her alone and had Lotte shortly after she returned to the demon world. Since a succubus baby has a much shorter incubation period, there's more time for Lotte to be born later and still be the same age as Asuha in years. I think time passes differently between the two worlds as well, but I'm not positive on that.

Darknemo2000 · 2011-04-26, 14:54

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Originally Posted by Silaqui

That's certainly true, but in chapter 10(?) Asuha could easily remember her mother. So I don't get it how Asuha can remember her mother, but has no memories of her sister.

Silaqui.

Has it been said that those two actually have been raised together? Lotta is at least 6 months younger that leaves us with 1 year and 6 months where they could be together, but it isnt stated so so maybe they were seperated from get go. After all Lotte is a true hier, while Asuha isnt all that precious.

ReddyRedWolf · 2011-04-27, 03:40

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Originally Posted by Silaqui

You misunderstood me. I was wondering why Asuha can't remember Lotte. She can remember her mother, but not her sister, although they should have spent at least two years together.

Silaqui.

Publicly Asuha is dead. Declared as a still birth raised in secret until the Queen handed her to Naoya.

As far as that world knows the Queen has one live child.

Being raised separately Lotte doesn't know who Asuha is. Asuha remembers who her mother is but not Lotte.

Now the question is why keep Asuha aka Asuhariet secret? She is immediately disqualified as an heir to the throne just being not a Succubus. As Merci pointed out the Queen could have just gave up her for adoption without burdening Naoya.

Now this is a very scandalous secret. Not only is Lotte's only harem candidate one of her mother's flings but she has a half sister she doesn't know about.

At this stage if revealed it would only widen the gap between mother and daughter if Lotte finds out.

Shadow5YA · 2011-04-27, 08:08

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Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

Publicly Asuha is dead. Declared as a still birth raised in secret until the Queen handed her to Naoya.

As far as that world knows the Queen has one live child.

Being raised separately Lotte doesn't know who Asuha is. Asuha remembers who her mother is but not Lotte.

Now the question is why keep Asuha aka Asuhariet secret? She is immediately disqualified as an heir to the throne just being not a Succubus. As Merci pointed out the Queen could have just gave up her for adoption without burdening Naoya.

Now this is a very scandalous secret. Not only is Lotte's only harem candidate one of her mother's flings but she has a half sister she doesn't know about.

At this stage if revealed it would only widen the gap between mother and daughter if Lotte finds out.

You just explained why Asuha needed to be kept a secret. A non-succubus daughter of a succubus would be scandalous. She would be made fun of for her impure blood.

Naoya understands that Lotte's relationship with her mother is tense. That's why it was agreed upon that Asuha's relation with Lotte would be kept a secret.

Darknemo2000 · 2011-04-27, 09:40

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

You just explained why Asuha needed to be kept a secret. A non-succubus daughter of a succubus would be scandalous. She would be made fun of for her impure blood.

Naoya understands that Lotte's relationship with her mother is tense. That's why it was agreed upon that Asuha's relation with Lotte would be kept a secret.

Why scandalous? Its is well known truth that succubus can get pregnant from any race, naturally quite number of those pregnancies would end up going to the father side of the race.

Its not scandalious, simply not needed. Asuha is useless for the kindgdom as she is not succubus, and that's all thats why she is not raised as heir.

Of course it is all kept secret from fragile Lotte, but others who are part of the court policies would know about those kids, they just have no purpose to be brought in public and better be raised with their fathers.

Succubuses are pretty rare after all.

Relationship between the two is not that tense considering that Queen is more eager to fuck her daughters new lover rather than brood about her daughter or do anything to improve their relationship (if anything, fucking your daughters first harem male would most likely only worsen the relationship). So either mothers priorities suck big time, or simply she does not consider the issue that big.

ReddyRedWolf · 2011-04-27, 09:59

Not to mention they haven't seen or heard of a human in a very long time.With the World Tree supposedly out of wack. Rumors of the queen having a human as a harem member not withstanding.

Which brings to question what would happen if it went public the tree still works.

Exether · 2011-04-27, 11:30

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Originally Posted by Darknemo2000

Well if you want in details then here

Spoiler for spoiler:

Wow, if you are indeed saying the truth, then my opinion about the queen has gotten even worst.

Well, it's a good thing that this manga is tittled Lotte's Toy and not "Queen's Toy" so we already know who's the main heroine

2011-04-26, 00:45	Link #88
Darknemo2000 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lithuania Age: 39	Well if you want in details then here Spoiler for spoiler: Queen is bored with her usual fuck buddies and wants to find new fuck buddies. She decides to go for the ancient tree to travel. But the guard is guarding it so she puts guard to sleep and using her magic opens the portal. Happy to get into the earth Queen is ready to fuck hundreds men. But Nayoa is sitting in the siad tree and falls onto her. Trying to show Nayoa off she tries to fly. and fails. Her magic is not working. Tries to seduce men with her magic. Fails too. The one who responds to her call is Naoya who gives her a sweater to cover herself up (queen is a slut so she wears whores clothes which would earn her a trip to the prison for the exhibitionism). Naoya takes her home, tehy talk, she remembers sad past out of the blue and Nayoa consoles her. She thinks he is nice 12 year boy so as a thanks she will fuck him (as well as use him to restore her powers). Using her magic (as it seems working on Naoya) she gets into him believing its a dream and fucks him. His sperm is so tasty that it restores her magic powers completely and she can return back. And she wasn't alone. Her bat was with her.

2011-04-25, 16:46	Link #83
Wargumm1i Hentai Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Iceland	Wow the subject on Asuha, Lotte, Queen, Naoya´s relationships, and the mystery involving all 4 of them, is really a battlefield on this topic I mean Lotte´s father is someone, Asuha being really Naoya´s daughter and not someone elses, which seems to be highly unlikely, since well. Asuha and Naoya both look exactly alike. And yeah the second is how the queen birthed both Asuha and Lotte at the same "year or something". Which is not really that suprising since if im not correct the peroid is 6 months and the queen is an oversized slut that would just have a guy waiting beside the bed to fuck her as soon, as she gave birth. I really wished they would quickly clear alot of details and continue on more interesting subjects, since this is not really all that interesting but rather getting weird.

2011-04-27, 09:59	Link #99
ReddyRedWolf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006	Not to mention they haven't seen or heard of a human in a very long time.With the World Tree supposedly out of wack. Rumors of the queen having a human as a harem member not withstanding. Which brings to question what would happen if it went public the tree still works.