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Old 2020-08-02, 00:50   Link #10421
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Twilight Saint Affection (聖龍姫が抱く慈愛の園トワイライト・セイント・アフェクション, Towairaito Seinto Afekushon) also known as The Garden Of Charity Held by Holy Dragon Princess is Asia's Sub-Species Balance Breaker of Twilight Healing that forms a Golden Dragon Armor with red jewels that covers her body, for a limited time and certain areas, covers Asia and anyone near her in a field of enhanced healing energy. The Twilight Saint Affection does not negate attacks, but rather it negates the damage inflicted by attacks.In short it's AOE not just in front.

In addition, Fafnir’s dragon aura was also added to it, hence the Twilight Saint Affection has high defensive strength and added with the healing field, creates a near impenetrable shield for Asia.

So sneaking up on Asia is a very hard thing to do especially in life and death battle where there is no time limit for Fafnir as even Artemis and Rizevim in volume 20 can't do it as Fafnir's will to protect seems like a curse. You can only sneak up on Asia or damaged her if you can bypassed the effect of Twilight Saint Affection and Fafnir. Issei even said in volume 25 that a half hearted attack wouldn't be able to deal damage to Asia even if it's from a God. That's how strong Fafnir's will to protect Asia was.
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Old 2020-08-02, 01:17   Link #10422
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Well it negates damage not death if the enemy can kill in one shot, she won't be too useful. Also we don't know if it can regrow organs of limbs.
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Old 2020-08-02, 01:38   Link #10423
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but if you cant damage someone you cant kill them, if an attack of rizevim or artemis is completely ineffective then it stands to reason that even god-class beings can do a bit of damage, now add the ridiculous healing and you have do an incredibly powerful attack that instantly kills asia or she will probably heal the damage a second later, and this is the setting where people fight whit internal damage like its nothing.
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Old 2020-08-02, 05:16   Link #10424
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Well it negates damage not death if the enemy can kill in one shot, she won't be too useful. Also we don't know if it can regrow organs of limbs.
How can you kill Asia if you can't even damage her? Since Asia got her balance breaker the only who defeated her was Crom not even a Super Devil like Rizevim nor a God class being like Artemis can damaged her because of how strong Fafnir's will to protect Asia and her balance breaker abilities are. As long as Asia didn't die the problems like missing organs, limbs can be easily solved as there's the Sephiroth Grail on their side.
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Old 2020-08-02, 05:17   Link #10425
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or freeze asia, from what is described how the power works it should work since she would still be trapped in a dome of ice. still her barrier is pretty OP
Dude, I’ve thought to that possibility putting even Serafall who can freeze easily a large field.

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Twilight Saint Affection (聖龍姫が抱く慈愛の園トワイライト・セイント・アフェクション, Towairaito Seinto Afekushon) also known as The Garden Of Charity Held by Holy Dragon Princess is Asia's Sub-Species Balance Breaker of Twilight Healing that forms a Golden Dragon Armor with red jewels that covers her body, for a limited time and certain areas, covers Asia and anyone near her in a field of enhanced healing energy. The Twilight Saint Affection does not negate attacks, but rather it negates the damage inflicted by attacks.In short it's AOE not just in front.

In addition, Fafnir’s dragon aura was also added to it, hence the Twilight Saint Affection has high defensive strength and added with the healing field, creates a near impenetrable shield for Asia.

So sneaking up on Asia is a very hard thing to do especially in life and death battle where there is no time limit for Fafnir as even Artemis and Rizevim in volume 20 can't do it as Fafnir's will to protect seems like a curse. You can only sneak up on Asia or damaged her if you can bypassed the effect of Twilight Saint Affection and Fafnir. Issei even said in volume 25 that a half hearted attack wouldn't be able to deal damage to Asia even if it's from a God. That's how strong Fafnir's will to protect Asia was.
Indeed Attack Asia frontally is a strategy to avoid.But is not invincible, you forget the barrier can be generated only in front of her. It does not cover completely her. If you are enough fast Asia would not even be able to see your attack and she does not may generate the barrier.
Furthermore you can always attack her from back or destroy the field under her.

Arthrmis could only attack frontally and not even always, because she was fighting with Grayfia and had to be careful. Fefnir is the biggest problem because is her only way to attack. But only in outrage mode he surpasses the dragon king class. If was not for Grayfia, Asia would have losted.

Rivezim attacked her only one time for joke, while was fighting issei. He has not even tried to blitz her from behind, to use his sacred gear canceller of fire a powerful attack as against issei.

There is difference to say they could not defeat her.

Various maou class can defeat her but even Kiba.
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Old 2020-08-02, 13:44   Link #10426
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Dude, Iíve thought to that possibility putting even Serafall who can freeze easily a large field.



Indeed Attack Asia frontally is a strategy to avoid.But is not invincible, you forget the barrier can be generated only in front of her. It does not cover completely her. If you are enough fast Asia would not even be able to see your attack and she does not may generate the barrier.
Furthermore you can always attack her from back or destroy the field under her.

Arthrmis could only attack frontally and not even always, because she was fighting with Grayfia and had to be careful. Fefnir is the biggest problem because is her only way to attack. But only in outrage mode he surpasses the dragon king class. If was not for Grayfia, Asia would have losted.

Rivezim attacked her only one time for joke, while was fighting issei. He has not even tried to blitz her from behind, to use his sacred gear canceller of fire a powerful attack as against issei.

There is difference to say they could not defeat her.

Various maou class can defeat her but even Kiba.
Uh, no, it's pretty clearly not a front facing barrier. It "covers" Asia and anyone near her in a field of energy that heals and negates damage. You can't sneak around it
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Old 2020-08-02, 16:00   Link #10427
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Dude, I’ve thought to that possibility putting even Serafall who can freeze easily a large field.



Indeed Attack Asia frontally is a strategy to avoid.But is not invincible, you forget the barrier can be generated only in front of her. It does not cover completely her. If you are enough fast Asia would not even be able to see your attack and she does not may generate the barrier.
Furthermore you can always attack her from back or destroy the field under her.

Arthrmis could only attack frontally and not even always, because she was fighting with Grayfia and had to be careful. Fefnir is the biggest problem because is her only way to attack. But only in outrage mode he surpasses the dragon king class. If was not for Grayfia, Asia would have losted.

Rivezim attacked her only one time for joke, while was fighting issei. He has not even tried to blitz her from behind, to use his sacred gear canceller of fire a powerful attack as against issei.

There is difference to say they could not defeat her.

Various maou class can defeat her but even Kiba.
What stated in novel is that Asia's balance breaker effectiveness covers Asia and anyone near her in a field of enhanced healing energy. In short what it covers is not just the front it's an Area of effect . And with strong Fafnir's will to protect Asia you can't just sneak around it . Some abilities like the Sacred Gear Canceller, Worthless, Hole etc...Half hearted attacks won't work on Asia even if it's from a Super Devil or even a God like Artemis that's how strong Asia's balance breaker was. It has its limit and weaknesses but her abilities is hax.

Well I'm more interested if Kiba can successfully fuse his sacred gears and if it would cause some mutations and maybe turn into Longinus.

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Old 2020-08-02, 20:38   Link #10428
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Well I'm more interested if Kiba can successfully fuse his sacred gears and if it would case some mutations and maybe turn into Longinus.
it should be a longinus already, guy can move so fast issei cant see him and his holy-demonic swords can actually hurt the guy albeit not pierce his armor. if that is not a longinus then neither should be the true longinus
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Old 2020-08-03, 04:48   Link #10429
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it should be a longinus already, guy can move so fast issei cant see him and his holy-demonic swords can actually hurt the guy albeit not pierce his armor. if that is not a longinus then neither should be the true longinus
It not so incredible for Kiba damages issei with the attributes of holy sword and dragon slayer sword. Even issei CxC with ascalon could damage Crom Cruach.
It mean only his holy-demoniac sword are not so far from the level of a legendary holy sword in terms of energy.

Except the speed with the booster, his sacred gear would be a copy of Tobioís Longinus.
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Old 2020-08-03, 15:11   Link #10430
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Sefaira may join Ravel's peerage, not Issei. She is a priestess meaning she'll probably be a healer. And that's useless to Issei. IF she is just a healer and doesn't have some crazy power. And I say Ravel's peerage because she'll be returning in Shin 5 most likely--Ravel's focused volume--a volume perfect to give her the first member of her peerage.
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Old 2020-08-03, 15:12   Link #10431
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It not so incredible for Kiba damages issei with the attributes of holy sword and dragon slayer sword. Even issei CxC with ascalon could damage Crom Cruach.
It mean only his holy-demoniac sword are not so far from the level of a legendary holy sword in terms of energy.

Except the speed with the booster, his sacred gear would be a copy of Tobio’s Longinus.
even if its due to compatibility he managed to damage a god-class being, if it manages to hurt a god-class being it should be considered a longinus. and the speed booster is insane, he was blitzing a heavenly dragon-class being.

again, if things like incinerate anthem or absolute demise can be considered longinus then so should kiba subspecies balance breaker. it hurt a god-class being, that is more than what most of the longinus have shown to be called god killers
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Sefaira may join Ravel's peerage, not Issei. She is a priestess meaning she'll probably be a healer. And that's useless to Issei. IF she is just a healer and doesn't have some crazy power.
no, she should definitely join issei as his rook or his 8 pawns so we dont get more than two girls more introduced. ravel peerage can remain empty or full of nameless characters for all the relevance they will get
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Old 2020-08-03, 15:15   Link #10432
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She's literally a priestess, implying her main power could be healing/buffing. If so, she's not Mutation Rook worthy lol
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Old 2020-08-03, 15:22   Link #10433
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She's literally a priestess, implying her main power could be healing/buffing. If so, she's not Mutation Rook worthy lol
then make her a pawn, issei still has eight of those. also i would like you to look at rossweisse who is also a rook and we have yet to see throw a punch
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Old 2020-08-03, 15:26   Link #10434
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He already has a healer. The best healer in the series. If Sefaira is one too, she's useless. She would bring nothing new.

Scenario A: Unique Power = Issei's peerage
Scenario B: Healer = Ravel's Peerage
Scenario C: No one's peerage
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Old 2020-08-03, 15:50   Link #10435
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why does she necessarily have to be a healer? she is a priestess but that is a clerical position not an RPG class, nero is technically a priest and the only magic he can cast is fist. for all we know she is a magic kung fu master or something, she could also be a master of buffs and debuffs which would come well for issei or she could have some future-seeing power or something else.

the only thing we know is that she is a priestess but that means nothing to how she fights
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Old 2020-08-03, 18:49   Link #10436
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even if its due to compatibility he managed to damage a god-class being, if it manages to hurt a god-class being it should be considered a longinus. and the speed booster is insane, he was blitzing a heavenly dragon-class being.

again, if things like incinerate anthem or absolute demise can be considered longinus then so should kiba subspecies balance breaker. it hurt a god-class being, that is more than what most of the longinus have shown to be called god killers

no, she should definitely join issei as his rook or his 8 pawns so we dont get more than two girls more introduced. ravel peerage can remain empty or full of nameless characters for all the relevance they will get
Even an half explosion of crimson blaster with Ascalon could give some damages to Crom, ripping a wing. Considerating for me Crom has the highest defense among the heavenly dragons.

For Kiba who is a swordmaster and use a special technique is nothing of incredible. Otherwise issei CxC would be considerated god class being.

But the knights are not so fast for their merit, but only because they can imit Kiba's speed who is high. The SG is only so strong for his base. It is not worthy to be a longinus.
A longinus should have indipendetelly from the user a power to kill Gods. If the user is shit is another thing.

Absolute demise is extremely powerful and is worthy to be a longinus. Incenerate is so weak only because the user is not so skilled.

Why a such important girl should go to ravel peerage, when basically their duty is only to help ravel and issei in the life of every day.
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Old 2020-08-03, 19:07   Link #10437
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She's literally a priestess, implying her main power could be healing/buffing. If so, she's not Mutation Rook worthy lol
Akeno would like a word with you lol. Priestess =/= healer or buffer. Some can specialize in that but it isn’t a requirement. Because they serve higher beings, it can be thought that they are likely to have unique abilities though.
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Old 2020-08-03, 21:35   Link #10438
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If I'm not mistaken all the 5 new longinus are the results of sudden mutations . So if Kiba can successfully fuse his two Sacred Gears there's a possibility Ingvlids that it would cause some mutation and become a longinus well anything can happen because the Sacred Gear System is incomplete due to God of Bible's death.
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Old 2020-08-04, 02:33   Link #10439
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Akeno would like a word with you lol. Priestess =/= healer or buffer. Some can specialize in that but it isnít a requirement. Because they serve higher beings, it can be thought that they are likely to have unique abilities though.
I have never seen nor heard of an offensive one.
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Old 2020-08-04, 03:24   Link #10440
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A longinus should have indipendetelly from the user a power to kill Gods. If the user is shit is another thing.

Absolute demise is extremely powerful and is worthy to be a longinus. Incenerate is so weak only because the user is not so skilled.
but most longinus literally dont have the power to independently kill gods, regulus nemea even whit a good user its still not god-class without BtB, divine dividing even whit a guy like vali is not god-class aside of a suicidal JD.

you can say that it only hurts a god-class being because kiba is the one using it but i can say that about many of the longinus.
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I have never seen nor heard of an offensive one.
then perhaps you should read this story called highschool DxD, there is this girl called akeno who is called priestess of thunder who takes a pretty offensive role most the time, and later we find out about this whole five flans of priests and priestess who also do many things aside of healing or buffing.

because you know, priest is a clerical title and this is not an RPG where being one limits what one can do
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