2018-09-16, 15:13 | Link #701 | |
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Secondly, One For All definitely increases the user durability, All Might tanked city block leveling attacks from All For One, and All For One absolutely fucking rekt everyone else on site without even using the same level of power he put into trying to kill All Might, if you really think All Mights physique is the peak human average on this verse youre very much mistaken 'Tanking 50% will be no issue' I'm decently sure that outside All For One, theres no one capable in-verse of trading blows with a 50% All Might.
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2018-09-16, 16:09 | Link #702 |
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Looks like there's some kind of technique to increase your durability with One for All, it certainly doesn't happen by default (look at the injuries Deku got again and again, some of which will be with him for life). But given the slugging matches All Might has been in, there is no way he could tank those attacks without using his quirk, and as far as we know he doesn't have any other quirks, at least not combat quirks.
Right now it seems Deku is avoiding damage to his own body by keeping his energy output at 5%, but I don't think we have seen him do anything other than normal exercise to increase his durability. That will probably have to change at some point. I wonder if the way All Might bulked up was his way to increase his sturdiness? There is no hint that Deku is doing anything like that, his signature when he activates is the colored lightning that runs around his body. I wonder if that can be used to absorb damage or if he will learn some other technique. |
2018-09-17, 03:43 | Link #703 |
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One for All probably has some kind of synergy with your natural body strength. It could be that they just enhance each other. Or maybe OfA acts like a multiplier, Kaiohken-style. Either way, just the fact that All Might could transform into his buff form by using it should make it clear that it's not a one directional thing: OfA can enhance the body of its user.
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2018-09-17, 07:52 | Link #706 |
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I cant believe I actually have a guy arguing that One For All doesnt increase durability of its user, after witnessing what All Might tanked in the battle vs All For One.
I'm legit unsure of what to make of someone that sees All Might, the verse resident flying brick and thinks 'oh thats what every human on the setting can aspire to, to tank attacks that level entire city blocks' One for All is the Superman powerset minus the flying (because lets face it, All Might IS Superman), super strenght, overhelming speed, ridiculous durability, its the standard flying brick powerset.
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2018-09-17, 08:52 | Link #707 | |
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But, hey, maybe his powers increase his durability, as well? Seems weird, but hey.
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2018-09-17, 09:18 | Link #708 | |
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If we want to be realistic, the human body is squishy. Wars have seen people dropping most defensive technology, like plate armour, because it became always easier to kill and damage than it was to protect oneself - and if you're going to die at the first hit anyway, might as well just get rid of the extra weight and try to dodge. In a superpowered universe, with people with exploding hands (Bakugo), people with fire and ice (Todoroki, Endeavor), acid (Mina) or even just a really fast kick (Iida), almost every battle would end up with someone dead or disabled for life. You can't just take the human body, tack on such powerful offensive abilities, without adding any defences, and somehow expect this not to result in people dying left and right. How did Deku not get burnt to a crisp by Todoroki? Or frozen to death? How did Uraraka survive Bakugo's onslaught? How did Stein survive the absolutely savage beating he got from the kids? Realistically, any of those attacks should be enough to kill a person. Here they just use them in training events for kids. The only marginally believable people are those with defensive Quirks like Kirishima and Tetsutetsu. So, yeah, that. I think it's just a question better left unasked. But even so, All Might still was on a completely different level, regarding his resistance, than all other heroes.
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2018-09-17, 10:21 | Link #709 |
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As much as I love Stain as a character, his ribs should've been dust after that kick he got from Iida to the ribs and those flames covered his head so if he so the hot air would have toasted his lungs. Uraraka should've been burned if the explosives had any sort of heat or had her insides rattled hard enough to put her down early with how many up-close blasts she took.
It's a shounen series. The only times injuries factor in are when they play a role in the plot.
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2018-09-17, 12:16 | Link #713 | |
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About Deku: his strikes can absolutely shatter human bones 100% of the time, be it fists or kicks. Bakugou's strong defensive point has always been his perception and tactical movements, pressing his advantage and not getting in a bad spot. When it comes to taking hits though, he's shown nothing so far IIRC. If it were Kirishima instead, we'd have something to talk about. |
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Or, getting power out of OfA is easy, but getting durability is like wagging a single eyebrow, and doesn't come as naturally. |
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2018-09-18, 03:04 | Link #716 |
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Well, making all Quirks come with some kind of downside is basically the key mechanic of the whole story and how things stay balanced. Makes sense that the most powerful Quirk would come with a pretty big downside.
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A untrained middle school kid who was weak physically (which is why he used a gun) got a straight punch into his face and it KOed him only. The story seems to not only hint but outright show that people in this universe have higher durability than RL humans from the getgo and have a massive amount of possible growth. At least that is the case if we dont go with the "its the power of inconsistency" route. |
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2018-09-19, 09:09 | Link #718 | |
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Now that he knows his output, he can still break his body, but only if he exceeds his limit - and he still has a lot to learn about OfA, if we go by the hidden sentience that lies within. |
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2018-09-22, 06:56 | Link #720 |
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That was certainly a very different first half. A power like that could be very useful (as we've seen) but also the terrifying things it could do to someone's mind.
I wonder how much of this arc they'll adapt. Maybe another three or so episodes for a full two-cour run? I hope to see a few more upcoming characters get voices. And I remember back when this manga chapter came out that someone edited those three's entrance so that they were dressed up like a pirate, shinigami and ninja, that was a funny edit. |
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