2011-07-26, 07:40 | Link #2161 | |
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2011-07-26, 14:05 | Link #2163 | |
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O__O yeah Ill be saving that.
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21.5 was again excuted wonderfully. I like that both OAD's were told thru other ppl's eyes. Damn Moto. The brain part almost made me jump, I was like, oh gawd! Didnt expect it. She kinda reminded me of Nao in that she was left with nothing but unlike Nao wasnt a Shiki. Seriously I could watch several more of these OAD's but the manga will do.
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2011-07-26, 15:59 | Link #2164 |
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Ah, yes, I had forgotten werewolves "rose" faster. Seishin is really the only true winner of this anime. The village he hated so much burnt down, freeing him at last; he became an immortal superhuman; and last but not least, he got himself a cute legal loli. Lucky bastard.
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2011-07-27, 21:45 | Link #2165 |
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Finished it a few hours ago (and now I see some mentions of extra episodes that I haven't watched, so maybe finished isn't quite the right word) and want to get one thing off my chest:
Die, Seishin, you spineless, cowardly traitor! Die! And take Sunako with you to hell, will ya? Ah, that felt nice. I don't know if it was intentional or not but I saw Seishin as the embodiment of pseudo-intellectual who always tries to see the situation through every viewpoint, never takes quick decisions and uses a lot of lofty phrases he doesn't really understand. Which would have been harmless enough, if he weren't playing with people's lives. I loved the show's dark atmosphere and the OST but I am not too crazy about the plot. There is always a big problem with those town and villages where people die every day and no one finds it all that odd. The show tried really hard to draw a parallel between shiki and humans but didn't do it too well. It really bothers me when part of the fandom of such shows (cough, Buffy, cough) defends the supernatural killers with phrases like "well, humans can be complete monsters too". Yes, they can but generally the vast majority of humans do not murder for pleasure. If only a small percentage of shiki, vampires, werewolves or whatever supernatural creatures are in a given show bother to fight their nature, why should we blame the humans who fight back and kill them? If you have met ten shiki so far and all of them were killers, would you be inclined to believe the eleventh one when he claims he is actually a nice guy? Anyway. grumbling aside, I haven't watched an anime series so quickly (in just a few days) since forever, so I enjoyed it overall. I am just sick of woobie vampires, so that's mostly my problem, not an objective problem of the show. I really liked Natsuno, Ritsuko and Toshio (only later on, he was a bit of a moron early on). Megumi and Tatsumi were interesting villains. Sunako...I am so tired of scary little girls, to be honest.
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2011-07-27, 22:27 | Link #2167 | |
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Except that the humans not only were killing Shikis,they started going after people that were simply bitten (and being bitten once isn't deadly,they could have recovered) or supposed "traitors" when they had no proof and sometimes were just innocent people. The humans were also in denial about the shikis still being the same people they were when they were alive. It's one thing to accept the fact that "hey,I'm going to have to kill this person I'm very fond of to survive,so be it", and another to try and confort yourself by saying "this isn't the person I once knew,so it's ok to kill that person" because the latter is a complete lie,the shikis still had memories and emotions so they still were very much the same person.
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2011-07-27, 22:29 | Link #2168 |
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I've been wondering the same thing. Personally, I don't even think it's implied that Natsuno saved him unless you read a lot between the lines - in the anime anyway. It does make the most sense, but my sincere hope is that they show it in more detail in the final extra episode.
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2011-07-28, 00:25 | Link #2169 | ||
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2011-07-28, 04:02 | Link #2170 | ||
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p.s. let me just try to place myself in the range of opinions here, just in case anyone thinks I'm trying to defend the shiki by saying that "the humans can be monsters too": I look at each character in accordance with the context surrounding each of their struggles/decisions etc. There are characters on both sides whose actions I can't condone, but I try to understand exactly what brought about those actions.
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2011-07-28, 05:55 | Link #2171 | |
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Except the difference doesn't come from simply turning into a Shiki. It comes from waking up in an organisation that forces its members to kill by saying "kill or be killed" or "kill that person or we'll kill them ourselves anyway" And just by Karica67 I'm not trying to defend the actions I'm just saying the situation was a whole lot more complex than some villagers were making out to be. In the end to me a war was fought because a few extremists on both sides wanted to fight it and in the process lots of innocent blood on both sides was shed for the interest of those few extremists.
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2011-07-28, 13:23 | Link #2172 | |
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2011-08-09, 04:31 | Link #2173 | |
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The manga makes it clear that shiki like Nao who had given into their darker impulses were no longer human and unlike a human criminal, had no chance of redemption. It also showed that Nao's family had been friends with the family of the guy with the hat whose father had been shot. His son had also been killed by a shiki before. Nao either did it or stood by and let it happen. That's why he wanted to destroy her. Last edited by neutrino; 2011-08-09 at 04:45. |
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2011-08-09, 05:08 | Link #2174 | ||
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2011-08-13, 05:56 | Link #2175 |
絶対領域に嵌り過ぎた。
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After finishing the series, I'm very confident in saying for me this was the best series about vampires, or I may go as bold to say this was the best one for me in all medium that portrayed vampires. It was a bit slow in the beginning but it paid off with the ending almost spectacular beside the few complaints, it was still an appropriate conclusion. It took its time to build the plot and never rushing anything. Its execution is one of the better I've seen in the anime. It was very moving and poignant in many scenes, it makes me think.
Even in the process of watching it, I was eagerly waiting for that bloody end for shiki. I found a lot of them irritating, overindulgent and disrespectful. Here they just come to small town and do what they please, stomping the rules and regulations of the town. That's why I probably found the ending satisfying if not brutal but most shiki had it coming. The villagers not realising they were slowly being killed by vampires, I thought was natural when they are just small town folks not interested in superstitions. |
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i have just finished watching this for the first time and really enjoyed it. my biggest surprise was that at the start i disliked the shiki and wanted them to be wiped out but then i ended up feeling a bit sorry for them at the end.
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