Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei LN - Archived Discussion

[bietchie11]

Originally Posted by kagato3

It is unlikely that it is slower . That .25 seconds is doing what amounts to only the most simple of tasks not a complex spell and nothing points to Miyuki being a better mage then Maya. Also I don't think we have been given a clear idea how fast he is at Decomposition as everytime he has used it there hasn't been anything that requires it to be a split second cast (he didn't use it in the fight with Maya He basicly only used a part of it to prevent Metor Line from effecting him as Meteor Line operates by indirectly affecting the structural information of an enclosed space, where as Tatsuya’s ability is to directly interfere with structural information.) It is also unclear but Maya may also be a BS mage as it is stated that she has ‘distribution of light’ as her innate magic. It is flat out stated that Metor Line only weakness is direct interferance of structural information (only one of the steps in Decomposition) and that is why Tatsuya could negate it after it was activated .

I'm not sure where do you get that funny idea about Maya being BS magican. Because if she is one= she can't use other magic= not a full-pledge magican= not the head of Yotsuba.
Remember Yotsuba have a strict code about magic.

[bietchie11]

Originally Posted by malason13

Then what happened to the ASEAN?

It's merged with AA now. Fuck us, right? We can't even be allowed to be audiences and enjoy watching those guys fighting each others.

[Ultragunner]

Suddenly I have a question

Spoiler for Vol 7 Illustration:

The guy above is the dude from Asia Alliance, but who is the one in the lower of the pic? Tatsuya? I think he's a bit small built here

and

Spoiler for :

I think that's the same guy in the middle of the gang. Just who is that?

[malason13]

Originally Posted by bietchie11

It's merged with AA now. Fuck us, right? We can't even be allowed to be audiences and enjoy watching those guys fighting each others.

You've got to be kidding me!!! I really wish ASEAN is a different power from the Asian Alliance.

[hakazee]

Originally Posted by Ultragunner

Suddenly I have a question

Spoiler for Vol 7 Illustration:

The guy above is the dude from Asia Alliance, but who is the one in the lower of the pic? Tatsuya? I think he's a bit small built here

and

Spoiler for :

I think that's the same guy in the middle of the gang. Just who is that?

that's Watanabe Mari.


CMIIW

[Ken Sanders]

I think his name is Lu Gungho, The Devouring Tiger.

Below the first pic is Watanabe Mari, Chief of the Public Morals Committee and Naotsugu Chiba's girlfriend.

The reason why he attacked her was due to Vol. 6, where she was a witnessed the fight between him and her boyfriend; then she intervenes the fight to help her guy out.

Then in Vol 7, he escaped with the help of his organization, The Great Asian Alliance. The Tiger took on the following people in the picture.

[Awrya]

Originally Posted by Ultragunner

Suddenly I have a question

Spoiler for Vol 7 Illustration:

The guy above is the dude from Asia Alliance, but who is the one in the lower of the pic? Tatsuya? I think he's a bit small built here

and

Spoiler for :

I think that's the same guy in the middle of the gang. Just who is that?

That's Watanabe Mari, she borrowed a combat suit during the war.

[CatRules]

Oh I just notice something.

The band arrived at the Magic Association when Lu's group already attacked.

That outfit was lend to Mari by the MA.



She's really quick about changing a costume.

[Ultragunner]

oh, I also thought that was her but not sure

Regarding the worldmap

Spoiler for vol 10 map:

if the red/orange-ish area to the west of Japan is the Asia Alliance, then what is the more green-ish part in the south? That is the area of South East Asia now.

The two big areas are in different colors so I suppose they are different countries/unions

[hakazee]

Originally Posted by Ultragunner

oh, I also thought that was her but not sure

Regarding the worldmap

Spoiler for vol 10 map:

if the red/orange-ish area to the west of Japan is the Asia Alliance, then what is the more green-ish part in the south? That is the area of South East Asia now.

The two big areas are in different colors so I suppose they are different countries/unions

quick translation by Flere

Originally Posted by Flere821

Spoiler for Quick Translation:

*names may not be accurate, read through the BT ENG version for them (I normally read MnR in Chinese).

New Soviet Alliance

EU have been split into East and West EUs.

Great Asia Alliance, China absorbed Korea.

Indo-Persia Alliance

Africa, the southwest has no government control.

Southeast Asia alliance (Composed of Taiwan, Philippines, New Guinea and so on. Taiwan is also a independent nation.)

USNA, composing of all of North America continent.

Brazil, everywhere else in South America doesn't have anything larger than local governance.

The Pacific islands, plus Australia and New Zealand, have no mention both on the map or in the LNs.

[pampz21]

I was rereading the LN and I found something really weird....Its been stated that Tatsuya is a man with a strong poker face and doesnt show much emotion...and shows his emotion to Miyuki only....

Spoiler for so why? (From vol.1):

"…Sorry."

He showed a painful expression on his face for a moment, but then he bowed his head down.

...... is this a mistranslation?

now I know why Miyuki gave a green light to Honoka

"It's fine. I have no intention to interfere with Honoka whatsoever. ...Just so you know, I will feel really jealous though?

So rest assured, although I guess that's going to be difficult."

"Very well... since you have a friend who really is trying her hardest."

[alviam099]

^ Have you noticed once on the monologue of Tatsuya, that he's emotion nowadays are just a facade? It's somewhere in V3 and V4.

[pampz21]

Thats the first time I heard of that...I only read that he's lacking strong emotion,....He can be sad but cannot despair!....The only time he puts poker faces are people he doesnt know...

Spoiler for Detach:

"Tatsuya-kun...... is very detached."
"But, I'm very thankful that you're so detached...... I think. You're not too gentle, so I can safely vent all I want. Nor do you pity me, so I don't feel embarrassed...... Thank you."

Miyuki believed this might be "love" — towards him, Tatsuya still watched her go, behind that unyielding mask of logic, causing Miyuki's heart to ache more than be at ease.


"Why...do you try to detach yourself like that? I mean, when it's so evident that you love Tatsuya-san so much."

EDIT: Use of detachment in two different things.....a foreshadow I guess....same words with diffrent meaning, Is detaching oneself from others a form of LOVE?! In the vamp arc Erika will try to detach herself from Tatsuya but this time Tatsuya will be the one....

Spoiler for Vamp arc...:

Mizuki essentially plays Erika and makes her explain what is wrong. Erika is avoiding Tatsuya because, even when she didn't request
it, he is always helping her, and she doesn't want to be seen in such a manner. It was embarrassing for her, since it seems like he is
viewing her as a woman when he sees her like that. Mizuki convinces her that Tatsuya thinks of no one but Miyuki and that she
doesn't need to make such a large problem out of it, because if she keeps avoiding Tatsuya, he will forget about her (because, like she
said before, his head is full of Miyuki). As soon as Erika recovers, Mikihiko arrives with sandwiches Tatsuya bought for her (since Erika
had not eaten)

Originally Posted by alviam099

^ Have you noticed once on the monologue of Tatsuya, that he's emotion nowadays are just a facade? It's somewhere in V3 and V4.

Dont quote me on this but I just found that scene a little wierd....cuz it happened in vol. 1 if Tatsuya is so detach and emotionless how could he make a painful expression, is Tatsuya weak about promises??

[bludvein]

Originally Posted by pampz21

Thats the first time I heard of that...I only read that he's lacking strong emotion,....He can be sad but cannot despair!....The only time he puts poker faces are people he doesnt know...

This.

Im getting kinda annoyed at people who think Tatsuya is some kind of robot except in regards to Miyuki. He can enjoy activities like working with CADs, hanging out with his friends, etc. He just doesn't show it because of his training and his distrust of other's intentions.

The surgery only keeps him from feeling the stronger emotions. Sort of an enforced stoicism.

[alviam099]

I'll try to find it since I was planning to re-read V3 and V4 anyway.

EDIT: ^ I'm not guilty, I just read it before.

[waffler]

i think the novel said that tatsuya still have emotions just that he cannot have strong urges like hate someone or love someone

[Oxide]

main problem is that novel use term emotion which meaning for most population is really general and elusive. But try to look at this from perspective of psychology and you will open pandora box ...

[Ultragunner]

yeah, it's really vague but it could be said that Tatsuya can have some "feeling", yeah the word here is "feel", such as he can feel hungry but not to the point of gluttony, he can be aroused but not lust, he can also be "fond" of someone but not "like" or "love"...etc....furthermore, as mentioned, he's been through a lot of harsh experience, both physically and mentally so most of the stuffs in daily life are pretty much insignificant to him.

[viviane1993]

Hello, I don't know where to read MKnR Web arc. I don't even know about links. Please help me

[henzaeroz]

Originally Posted by viviane1993

Hello, I don't know where to read MKnR Web arc. I don't even know about links. Please help me

check PM.

i hope the link still works