Valvrave the Liberator 2 - Episode 7 Discussion / Poll
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^Or will she just decide not to go again? Or will Cain use her as leverage? There are so many possibilities, the tension is killing me!
And I won't even be able to watch the episode till late tonight because of school. The agony!
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I'm crossing my fingers for Lieselotte to go with L-Elf and make it back to the module. If only for extended character interactions and development. I'm keeping my expectations tempered though.
Looks like everyone here is in the same boat. I'm dying to see how the L-Elf/Michael & Lise reunion is handled. I've been suspenseful for other series, but counting down the time until VVV (which is my fave this season) comes out is especially taxing.
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"When there is evil in this world that justice cannot defeat, would you taint your hands with evil to defeat evil? Or would you remain steadfast and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil?" - Lelouch vi Britannia as Zero.
- Episode starts with helicopters shooting at L-Elf as he works his way to Liselotte's room and is reunited with her.
- OP rolls in
- L-Elf confesses to Liselotte
- In the meantime, Kyuuma and Haruto start their Valvraves, while Saki finds Camilla and then bites her own neck (trapping the Karlstein student instead in a life support vat, but getting caught red-handed by A-Drei).
- Liselotte and L-Elf are trying to leave the compound, Q-Vier finds them
- Meanwhile, Dorssia starts dropping artillery on the compound, around the rocket complex where the M77 crew is
- Q-Vier and L-Elf engage in a knife fight; L-Elf proves to be slightly superior, despite having a wounded arm
- Haruto bursts through the wall with his VVV, interrupting the knife fight
- L-Elf forces Haruto to take Liselotte inside his cockpit, while he takes a different route
- OS-tan detects Liselotte, but doesn't register her as a human
- Liselotte admits to being a Magius
- L-Elf leaves the compound on a bike, with Waffens shooting at him
- Liselotte explains the origins of the Magius, of how some strange vessel landed on Earth and "fairies" of sorts started possessing living beings, from bats to wolves and humans
- Did OS-tan just call Liselotte "Obaa-chan"? I might've misheard...
- In the meantime, Dorssia is still busy pounding the compound with artillery shells
- Haruto intervenes against the ground troops, using some sort of wrist-mounted cooling bracelet to absorb the heat from his blade
- L-Elf gets blown out of his bike, but he survives and dives in a body of water to avoid Waffen gunfire
- Liselotte keeps explaining the history of Runes and Magius to Haruto
- The other VVVs arrive, relieving a pinned down Haruto
- Liselotte shows her glowing patch-covered arm to Haruto and asserts her nature as a Magius to explain why she and Mikhail (L-Elf) can't be together, thus hitting a nerve in Haruto (remember the "I'm a monster so I can't be with you" angst?)
- Haruto vehemently dissuades her
- A wounded L-Elf is busy walking back to the rocket launch control room, exhorting the M77 to depart without him
- The Soyuz-like rocket fires up, as L-Elf uses the remainder of his strength to authorize the launch
- Q-Vier, in his new weapon, tries to prevent the launch, but misses
- Rocket depart, as a half-dead L-Elf watches on.
- Guess who stayed behind to save L-Elf? Haruto and his VVV.
- Q-Vier manages to damage the rocket fuselage, causing an atmospherical breach
- Liselotte goes into fairy mode (body glowing green with energy wings), flies out of the rocket and lands on the breach, using her power to repair it...all the while reminiscing about her life
- Her memories start to break.
- Haruto guns for the rocket and is caught in time by Kyuuma as his heat gauge reaches 100 and his VVV starts to power down
- Liselotte goes dead-eyed, as the rocket's second stage separates and fires up for orbital injection
- Liselotte's body falls down
- L-Elf goes all "LISELOO~TE!"
- New ED
Will post next ep preview in a minute or two.
EDIT: looks like there was no preview (unless I missed it); now Kill la Kill is being broadcast.
This is really sad, just sad in many aspects. I thought Liselotte would get killed off but gets revived as a Magius, but I had a theory that Liselotte is perhaps one of the Magius, which is written true this episode and...
OH
MY
GOD
Why did she go full Marie all of a sudden when she uses up all of her Magius powers to prevent the rocket from going overload and how did she broke her memories up when she's not even a Valvrave pilot?
Those are the things that made me a little confused this episode, but L-Elf go overcry over the lose of his princess, too moving to watch. Now that A-Drei discovers the secret of Saki's bodyjacking, I wonder if Haruto will choose to save her, or Shoko, or even both, I would like him to choose both since those are the ones that hold precious to him even if he's in love with one rather than the other. Make him rethink about what his father talks about the immortality blessings, I'm pretty sure he'll make his mind pretty quickly when this happen. Too bad the ending had Haruto's helmet getting broken, I don't want Sunrise to let him die, I'd rather have him keep living or even trapped in a coma rather than being dead all along!
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Well, that was unexpected... I mean the way Lieselotte died (but she's Newtype ghost now in that ED?) and what she is, rather than the death itself. Also it sealed ShokoxHaruto 100%, Haruto seemed to get a change of heart about his monster issues and flashbacks to Shoko, so he might finally confess when he's in the Moon.
What I fear the most is that L-Elf is certainly going to die in the end. I don’t want to, but it’s fairly obvious he’ll just burn out all his runes instead of Haruto’s half-deal so Haruto will have his happy ending. Guess the kid is Shoko/Haruto's child after all and the silver hair comes from the runes Haruto took from L-Elf.
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"Who would understand you after I die? Who else would march forward by your side?"
Why'd she have to die? It was so sad! I wonder if L-Elf will blame Haruto next episode, since he had left Lieselotte is his care, but either way I'm glad Haruto saved L-Elf.
And Saki was left behind
I really liked the visuals for the new ED better than the last ending but liked the song better last time
Spoiler for My thought after reading ep 19 spoiler.:
This is one of those times when I hate to be right. Lise really did die. That sucks major ass.
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"When there is evil in this world that justice cannot defeat, would you taint your hands with evil to defeat evil? Or would you remain steadfast and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil?" - Lelouch vi Britannia as Zero.
Isn't it funny that because L-Elf spared someone, Lieselotte died? The moral of the story is that he should have been more ruthless and killed his old comrades on spot. He can't be compassionate in war or people die as consequence.
Also nice to see Saki was left behind for now as I thought she would be.
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"Who would understand you after I die? Who else would march forward by your side?"
-- L-Elf only met Lieselotte for a few hours in total. But he loves her. He admits that it doesn't make sense
-- Lieselotte thinks L-Elf is naive. But she too would like to experience love, if only he wasn't a human.
-- Haruto wants Lieselotte to be with L-Elf because he is projecting his own chances of being with Shoko through them. (and this probably jinxed Lieselotte, because you know.. Haruto)
-- Magius are ancient bodyjacking aliens. Apparently they bodies they hijack can age, unlike Kamitsuki
-- Lieselotte is a magius She was put on a rune limiter. So she can barely have enough runes to live, but not more.
-- According to Magius they can only eat humans. Lieselotte is no different.
-- Saki is pretty much captured. K-Zwolf is alive.
regarding Saki
Spoiler:
Saki's development is really ironic
Just when she thought she had people she could call comrades, she is left behind
Alone again once more
I'm guessing she will be put on a rune leash like Lieselotte
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Impressions, after watching:
- well, Q-Vier needs to die. That shitty little brat. He literally doesn't have a single redeeming quality.
- Lise is definitely dead with no coming back. I consider their feelings mutual, based on what she said.
- poor L-Elf, after all this :/ Should've shoved that knife down that shitty little brat's throat. Never let the shitty brats go, they always come back and ruin things for you. First rule of fiction. Sigh..
- this reminded me of Gurren Lagann, oddly.
- Shoko and Haruto reuinion next week. Looks like she's being doing alright.
- what is up with that mummy???
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