(L) Freezing [Manga]

[Alhazad2003]

Originally Posted by Sinestra

Spoiler for reply:

I know and its starting to depress me. If they kill off Cass so soon i am going to be hella pissed

Spoiler for Cassandra's fate:

Don't be so sure, even if she does die, I can see her coming back through Maria Ex Machina, or something to that effect. Think about it, we've seen Roxanne brought back from being a decimated hollowed-out corpse, Gengo is about to revive Maria herself, so why not Cassandra? The story's already shown death isn't insurmountable, so don't be surprised if Cassandra actually pulls through this. But we'll see come Friday. Until then...

[Kurohane]

Originally Posted by Alhazad2003

Spoiler for Cassandra's fate:

Don't be so sure, even if she does die, I can see her coming back through Maria Ex Machina, or something to that effect. Think about it, we've seen Roxanne brought back from being a decimated hollowed-out corpse, Gengo is about to revive Maria herself, so why not Cassandra? The story's already shown death isn't insurmountable, so don't be surprised if Cassandra actually pulls through this. But we'll see come Friday. Until then...

Spoiler:

I really hope Gengo doesn't revive Maria now. That is the absolute cap of the series' power levels. Once something comes that can take her, the world is doomed. After she's revived, for better or for worse, it's the beginning of the end.

[Tachibana]

Originally Posted by Kurohane

Spoiler:

I really hope Gengo doesn't revive Maria now. That is the absolute cap of the series' power levels. Once something comes that can take her, the world is doomed. After she's revived, for better or for worse, it's the beginning of the end.

Spoiler for Maria to the rescue:

If things keep going the way they are, the world is doomed. Maria needs to be revived so that she can stop the end of the world and save everyone.

[Alhazad2003]

Spoiler for Chapters 184-186:

The first chapter starts with Ryuuichi and a young Kazuha. It then switches to a tense conversation between Ryuuichi and his wife, probably pertaining to Kazuha. Ryuuichi is then seen with Alfred Hughes (I believe), then meets his daughter once again. They take an elevator down to the basement, where Gengo is waiting for them. Ryuuichi's face pales at what Gengo reveals to him, which probably isn't good at all. He's then shown the Legendary Pandoras, and it's then I believe Gengo reveals they're his sisters, since they were created from Maria's DNA, which means he's not entirely human. Not sure if this is the first time he's heard this, though it wouldn't surprise me. It ends with with a nightmare about Cassandra.

The next chapter has Ryuuichi waking up from his nightmare, and is comforted by his wife. They have a nice cup of coffee and evening chat together, and considering what happens in the next couple of pages, I'm betting Ryuuichi reveals he'd want another child in the family, and his wife consents. It next shows Gengo in his lab, surrounded by digital readouts that seem to displease him. Ryuuichi and Gengo converse under a great tree, and it's not a pleasant one from the looks of it. The conversation essentially closes out the second chapter.

The last chapter starts with an intense conversation between Ryuuichi and his wife, who runs into the room after what she hears. After an intense lovemaking session with his wife, Ryuuichi rubs the head of his sleeping daughter. Later the next day, Gengo arrives with Cassandra, who's on crutches for some inexplicable reason. She's brought inside the house, and has lunch with the Aois. Though when Kazuha spoonfeeds her lunch, she winds up breathing fire, much to everyone's chagrin. Ryuuichi's wife quickly gets her some water. Cassandra's then lying on the couch, still dazed from the lunchtime fiasco. The chapter ends with Ryuuichi and his wife talking one more time.

Spoiler for Freezing Zero Chapter 30 RAW:

And it starts with the epic slugfest between Chiffon and Lucie, which frightens poor Aureriel. Lucie then fights dirty, and aims a fatal blow right for Aureriel, but Chiffon takes it instead. The young Fairchild then pleads for Chiffon to stop fighting for her sake, but then is gunned down by a sniper, part of a contingent looking for Chiffon. She cradles the dying girl in her arms, and then is next seen amidst a slew of dead soldiers, all killed by her hand.

It then shifts to the year 2063, as Chiffon is en route to West Genetics to start her academic career. And she acts just like she did in the beginning, in homage to the fallen Aureriel.

[Kurohane]

Originally Posted by Shinso Tsukune

Spoiler for Maria to the rescue:

If things keep going the way they are, the world is doomed. Maria needs to be revived so that she can stop the end of the world and save everyone.

Spoiler:

Didn't even Gengo say the best humanity could do was stall until the end? Awaken Maria now, and then have a Nova type come that can best her later is the worst thing they can do. Always save the trump card!

Originally Posted by Alhazad2003

Spoiler for Chapters 184-186:

The first chapter starts with Ryuuichi and a young Kazuha. It then switches to a tense conversation between Ryuuichi and his wife, probably pertaining to Kazuha. Ryuuichi is then seen with Alfred Hughes (I believe), then meets his daughter once again. They take an elevator down to the basement, where Gengo is waiting for them. Ryuuichi's face pales at what Gengo reveals to him, which probably isn't good at all. He's then shown the Legendary Pandoras, and it's then I believe Gengo reveals they're his sisters, since they were created from Maria's DNA, which means he's not entirely human. Not sure if this is the first time he's heard this, though it wouldn't surprise me. It ends with with a nightmare about Cassandra.

The next chapter has Ryuuichi waking up from his nightmare, and is comforted by his wife. They have a nice cup of coffee and evening chat together, and considering what happens in the next couple of pages, I'm betting Ryuuichi reveals he'd want another child in the family, and his wife consents. It next shows Gengo in his lab, surrounded by digital readouts that seem to displease him. Ryuuichi and Gengo converse under a great tree, and it's not a pleasant one from the looks of it. The conversation essentially closes out the second chapter.

The last chapter starts with an intense conversation between Ryuuichi and his wife, who runs into the room after what she hears. After an intense lovemaking session, Ryuuichi rubs the head of his sleeping daughter. Later the next day, Gengo arrives with Cassandra, who's on crutches for some inexplicable reason. She's brought inside the house, and has lunch with the Aois. Though when Kazuha spoonfeeds her lunch, she winds up breathing fire, much to everyone's chagrin. Ryuuichi's wife quickly gets her some water. Cassandra's then lying on the couch, still dazed from the lunchtime fiasco. The chapter ends with Ryuuichi and his wife talking one more time.

Spoiler for Freezing Zero Chapter 30 RAW:

And it starts with the epic slugfest between Chiffon and Lucie, which frightens poor Aureriel. Lucie then fights dirty, and aims a fatal blow right for Aureriel, but Chiffon takes it instead. The young Fairchild then pleads for Chiffon to stop fighting for her sake, but then is gunned down by a sniper, part of a contingent looking for Chiffon. She cradles the dying girl in her arms, and then is next seen amidst a slew of dead soldiers, all killed by her hand.

It then shifts to the year 2063, as Chiffon is en route to West Genetics to start her academic career. And she acts just like she did in the beginning, in homage to the fallen Aureriel.

Thanks for the summaries, Alhazard, though you might want to change this line:

Spoiler for freezing:

After an intense lovemaking session, Ryuuichi rubs the head of his sleeping daughter.

People may get the wrong idea.

[Kirihara_R]

Originally Posted by Alhazad2003

Spoiler for Chapters 184-186:

The first chapter starts with Ryuuichi and a young Kazuha. It then switches to a tense conversation between Ryuuichi and his wife, probably pertaining to Kazuha. Ryuuichi is then seen with Alfred Hughes (I believe), then meets his daughter once again. They take an elevator down to the basement, where Gengo is waiting for them. Ryuuichi's face pales at what Gengo reveals to him, which probably isn't good at all. He's then shown the Legendary Pandoras, and it's then I believe Gengo reveals they're his sisters, since they were created from Maria's DNA, which means he's not entirely human. Not sure if this is the first time he's heard this, though it wouldn't surprise me. It ends with with a nightmare about Cassandra.

The next chapter has Ryuuichi waking up from his nightmare, and is comforted by his wife. They have a nice cup of coffee and evening chat together, and considering what happens in the next couple of pages, I'm betting Ryuuichi reveals he'd want another child in the family, and his wife consents. It next shows Gengo in his lab, surrounded by digital readouts that seem to displease him. Ryuuichi and Gengo converse under a great tree, and it's not a pleasant one from the looks of it. The conversation essentially closes out the second chapter.

The last chapter starts with an intense conversation between Ryuuichi and his wife, who runs into the room after what she hears. After an intense lovemaking session, Ryuuichi rubs the head of his sleeping daughter. Later the next day, Gengo arrives with Cassandra, who's on crutches for some inexplicable reason. She's brought inside the house, and has lunch with the Aois. Though when Kazuha spoonfeeds her lunch, she winds up breathing fire, much to everyone's chagrin. Ryuuichi's wife quickly gets her some water. Cassandra's then lying on the couch, still dazed from the lunchtime fiasco. The chapter ends with Ryuuichi and his wife talking one more time.

Spoiler for Freezing Zero Chapter 30 RAW:

And it starts with the epic slugfest between Chiffon and Lucie, which frightens poor Aureriel. Lucie then fights dirty, and aims a fatal blow right for Aureriel, but Chiffon takes it instead. The young Fairchild then pleads for Chiffon to stop fighting for her sake, but then is gunned down by a sniper, part of a contingent looking for Chiffon. She cradles the dying girl in her arms, and then is next seen amidst a slew of dead soldiers, all killed by her hand.

It then shifts to the year 2063, as Chiffon is en route to West Genetics to start her academic career. And she acts just like she did in the beginning, in homage to the fallen Aureriel.

Spoiler for .legendary pandora.:

Slight correction , Gengo introduce the legendary pandora to Ryuuichi that these girls possess a powerful soul, the mother of pandoras and an existence that will give birth to his(Ryuuichi) child (haha i got a bad feeling about this )

shall we change "aunty" to "mother" ( i hope not)

[Tachibana]

Originally Posted by Kurohane

Spoiler:

Didn't even Gengo say the best humanity could do was stall until the end? Awaken Maria now, and then have a Nova type come that can best her later is the worst thing they can do. Always save the trump card!

Spoiler for reply:

Then I guess it's up to Kazuya.

Spoiler for Kazuya's origins:

As for the summary. It is indeed looking more like Cassandra is Kazuya's real mother, which would explain a lot. Perhaps Ryuuichi was seduced by Cassandra, not literally but through his dreams/nightmares.

Theoretical conclusion. Kazuya is a the only product of Project Arcadia, born from Cassandra Aoi and Ryuuichi Aoi. This would explain a lot. Cassandra's motherly instincts towards Kazuya, her attempts to breastfeed him, etc.

[Alhazad2003]

Originally Posted by Kurohane

Spoiler:

Didn't even Gengo say the best humanity could do was stall until the end? Awaken Maria now, and then have a Nova type come that can best her later is the worst thing they can do. Always save the trump card!

Thanks for the summaries, Alhazard, though you might want to change this line:

Spoiler for freezing:

After an intense lovemaking session, Ryuuichi rubs the head of his sleeping daughter.

People may get the wrong idea.

Silly me, already fixed.

Originally Posted by Kirihara_R

Spoiler for .legendary pandora.:

Slight correction , Gengo introduce the legendary pandora to Ryuuichi that these girls possess a powerful soul, the mother of pandoras and an existence that will give birth to his(Ryuuichi) child (haha i got a bad feeling about this )

shall we change "aunty" to "mother" ( i hope not)

Spoiler:

That was just a guess on my part, since I can't read Japanese. But VampireCat from MangaFox made a more accurate summary, and it pretty much coincides with what you wrote about them.

Same here, though it's possible Orie (Ryuuichi's wife) birthed Kazuya naturally, but her son alienated her and responded to Cassandra instead. Sad, it really is.

[amtro]

Chapter is out.

Spoiler for :

It would appear that there were some serious complications during Orie's second pregnancy. Ryuuchi grows closer to Cassandra in this chapter, but in a non-sexual way. Also he unintentionally exhibited some Nova traits, which were super strength when he bashed some guy's head into a wall and the wall cracked, second he shared thoughts with Cassandra. I am going to guess that Orie's second died and that Ryuuchi slept with Cassandra in his depression, that seems to be the way things are going. Would explain why Cassandra thinks Kazuya is her child and why Orie became a mental wreck.

[Alhazad2003]

Originally Posted by amtro

Chapter is out.

Spoiler for :

It would appear that there were some serious complications during Orie's second pregnancy. Ryuuchi grows closer to Cassandra in this chapter, but in a non-sexual way. Also he unintentionally exhibited some Nova traits, which were super strength when he bashed some guy's head into a wall and the wall cracked, second he shared thoughts with Cassandra. I am going to guess that Orie's second died and that Ryuuchi slept with Cassandra in his depression, that seems to be the way things are going. Would explain why Cassandra thinks Kazuya is her child and why Orie became a mental wreck.

Spoiler:

Not quite, both Orie and Kazuya were in dire peril at that moment, which wounded Ryuuichi deeply. Gengo told him he didn't have time to grieve, and that he knew a way to save both mother and child. What it entails is unknown at this time, though it's very possible Kazuya was transferred into Cassandra's body, and she carried him to term. Other than that, it was a happy household, it'll be heart-wrenching to see how it all came tumbling down. Until then...

[Esclair]

New english chapter...why is Suna jobbing so hard?

[Tempest35]

If she's not in sufficient danger or properly motivated, she just doesn't care. Or at least that's what she puts out. But yeah, Gengo definitely sees her as being a 'stand-in' for Kazuha - almost heartwarming considering that its him.

[DOmus]

I dont understand her behavior, so if she is not fully committed, then she wont do a shit or what???

[Nvis]

Sawatari is awesome.

[Tempest35]

Originally Posted by DOmus

I dont understand her behavior, so if she is not fully committed, then she wont do a shit or what???

I think it's more of, 'Only people who can hurt me are worth my time. If you don't hit me hard enough break bones or to draw blood, then I won't bother to dodge, much less fight back,' kinda thing. It's a weird mentality.

[nooneagain]

So are you guys talking about the raw or the English version? I skipped lots of chapters in translated and carried on checking out recent raws haha...

[amtro]

Bit of both. Though our discussions on the raws are brief and limited to the spoilers we have available atm. New chapters come out on the 25th.

[~Yami~]

just stunned seeing how Suna didn't make any move and even cut her hand...
why???

and Gengo lost his cool composure
just how frightening this Sawatari is?

[Alhazad2003]

Originally Posted by Tempest35

I think it's more of, 'Only people who can hurt me are worth my time. If you don't hit me hard enough break bones or to draw blood, then I won't bother to dodge, much less fight back,' kinda thing. It's a weird mentality.

Spoiler:

Very much so, I'd say Christine found that out in the last chapter of Freezing Zero. She broke her own foot trying to hurt Suna, who showed her she was definitely not all that. And looked quite psychotic doing it. ^^;;

[Johnny]

Damn, guess the latest raws answered the flashback under the tree part and more...