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Old 2013-12-20, 13:20   Link #12081
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That was kind of a bad call to send Elfman and Lissana as a duo against a Tartaros demon, considering one of these guys alone took out the Raijinshuu easily and almost beat Laxus. I'm guessing that this might somehow result in a powerup for Elfman; something to do selling his soul and Elfman's beast soul magic maybe. I don't see them winning this fight though.
They were kind of limited in their available choices. Laxus and his team were down, Erza and Mirajane were being kept in reserve for when they found the former chairman of the Council, and once decent teams for the other former councilors were put together, the options for backing up Elfman and Lisanna consisted of:

Macao Conbolt
Romeo Conbolt
Cana Alberona
Reedus Jonah
Nab Lasaro
Alzack Connell
Bisca Connell
Vijeeter Ecor
Wakaba Mine
Warren Rocko
Max Alors
Laki Olietta

Of those, I'd say Cana, Alzack, and Bisca would be the only really good backup for Elfman and Lisanna. And they'd probably want some people in reserve anyways in case they need another team.

After that we're into purely background or non-combatant characters in the guild.
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Old 2013-12-20, 14:40   Link #12082
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Very good chapter, the Oracion Five just had the most awesome reunion ever:

- Jailbreak (sort of)
- Kill the so-called leader
- Face flippin' Jellal!?

Looking forward to the rest of this...Elfman's in quite the pinch too. I also expect Mira to get demonized from Kyouka, what with her having a demon takeover and stuff.
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Old 2013-12-20, 16:29   Link #12083
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They were kind of limited in their available choices.
Yes I agree. I just thought it would've made more sense plot-wise to involve all the other guilds too after Tempesta killed so many civilians, especially since it required several guilds to take down Oracion Seis. I like how Doranbolt has developed as a character and isn't afraid to break the rules for the greater good, and I'm glad that Cobra and the others are back, but I would've expected the other guilds to join the fight before breaking out the criminals.

From a dramatic point of view it would've made more impact (though cliche) if the new Oracion showed up when everyone else was defeated. I really like how Mashima doesn't drag out his fights, but in this case I would've liked to see him let the drama play out a little bit longer so he could get more people involved. That way he could play up Tartaros' strength a bit more instead of having them lose 1v1 brawls.

Tbh it kinda irked me that Laxus alone fought Tempesta to a stalemate, and Natsu outright defeated Jackal without any help from his team at all. I suppose I wanted FT to be the underdogs for once. I hope at least Gray and Juvia will have a good 2v1 fight, hopefully against Silver, and really hopeful that we'll finally see their unison raid.

Still, I'm not disappointed in Mashima or anything. I really like the arc so far and looking forward to see how he tells the rest of the story. I'm just not getting what I personally wanted
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Old 2013-12-21, 23:13   Link #12084
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Yes I agree. I just thought it would've made more sense plot-wise to involve all the other guilds too after Tempesta killed so many civilians, especially since it required several guilds to take down Oracion Seis. I like how Doranbolt has developed as a character and isn't afraid to break the rules for the greater good, and I'm glad that Cobra and the others are back, but I would've expected the other guilds to join the fight before breaking out the criminals.
They mentioned last chapter that they were contacting other guilds to help guard the other former council members they turned up. Presumably most of them will be too late as well, though we may get some clashes between Tartarus and some of the stronger guilds.
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From a dramatic point of view it would've made more impact (though cliche) if the new Oracion showed up when everyone else was defeated. I really like how Mashima doesn't drag out his fights, but in this case I would've liked to see him let the drama play out a little bit longer so he could get more people involved. That way he could play up Tartaros' strength a bit more instead of having them lose 1v1 brawls.
Eh, Oracion Seis showing up out of nowhere in that case without the release having been demonstrated would strike a lot of people as a deus ex machina. This way we know that they're out and about, capable of intervening.
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Tbh it kinda irked me that Laxus alone fought Tempesta to a stalemate, and Natsu outright defeated Jackal without any help from his team at all. I suppose I wanted FT to be the underdogs for once. I hope at least Gray and Juvia will have a good 2v1 fight, hopefully against Silver, and really hopeful that we'll finally see their unison raid.
Laxus stomped Tempester without getting scratched. Natsu barely defeated Jackal. The only reason that Laxus had a worse outcome was that Tempester had a better suicide move than Jackal.

On a different note, I'm guessing that the translator for MS didn't actually google Chamomile. That's an actual plant, used to make tea, that can help induce sleep:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamomile

It apparently derives it's name from greek for earth apple.
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Old 2013-12-26, 16:30   Link #12085
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The christmas special crossover out Kinda cute I suppose. I expected more fanservice.
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Old 2013-12-26, 17:11   Link #12086
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The other guy probably told him not to do too much fanservice to his characters . But that big, twintail girl in Mashima's section I just love Mashima's designs, even if his women have the same body build - voluptuous.
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Old 2013-12-26, 17:28   Link #12087
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Haha Diane just looks like a......eh very much more grown up Wendy

Was nice seeing the author's doing each others series in their own style, shame we don't see more of this type of thing with others.
Would love to see a Beelzebub crossover with something.
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Old 2013-12-27, 02:40   Link #12088
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That was fun, I like how the art of each mangaka stands out, especially Suzuki's Happy Anyone know why Gowther wasn't included?
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Old 2013-12-27, 10:54   Link #12089
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That was fun, I like how the art of each mangaka stands out, especially Suzuki's Happy Anyone know why Gowther wasn't included?
Well its possible that they actually made these comics a month or so ago, That way they could have this special while still taking time off during this week. Gowther was only properly introduced less than a month ago, so he might have been too recent a character to include.
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Old 2013-12-28, 07:05   Link #12090
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Well the new chapter is out and its got quite a few doozy's in it.
Spoiler for 365:
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Old 2013-12-28, 07:12   Link #12091
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Looks like Mira doesn't need magic to transform in a demon because she herself is a demon if Kyouka succeed in her plan to turn Mira into a demon, Looking forward to Demon Mirajane.

Natsu just raided Tartaros guild on his own FT better send reinforcement to turn it into a huge brawl.
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Old 2013-12-28, 09:01   Link #12092
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Tits & Ass!

That's what the whole chapter is about.

Hiro Mashima should draw hentai instead of this.


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Well the new chapter is out and its got quite a few doozy's in it.
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Friendship Nuke

Spoiler for Forgot something:

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Old 2013-12-28, 09:20   Link #12093
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Figures Natsu would find them, not surprised either that he went straight. Wonder if he was able to let the rest of FT know the location. So now Mira might turn into a demon and we still don't know what happened to Elfman and Lisanna. Those 3 always have it tough.
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Old 2013-12-28, 10:49   Link #12094
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WELLL~ They are definitely NOT having that scene in the anime (at least the being naked part)... >.>

Natsu... why so smart? And it's official - Dragon's nose beats Dog's. Still, now that Erza is bleeding, I'm sure he'll find her even faster.

Jellal... why so badass NOW and not BEFORE? I know he's fighting them as a way to get them used to using their magic again but ... I just can't take him seriously... *snickers*
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Old 2013-12-28, 11:08   Link #12095
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Did Hiro watch Berserk.. This was painful to watch...

9/10... Erza getting tortured was really dark.. Hiro proving nudity can be taken seriously and not only for fan service

Jellal holding his own without magic.

Hopefully Natsu gets fodderized by someone(Silver) and tossed out
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Old 2013-12-28, 11:14   Link #12096
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There'd be no point to FT Hentai drawn by Hiro Avaricia, though if he ever decides to get it animated he'd have the voice cast down, FT girls have no nipples.
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Old 2013-12-28, 11:41   Link #12097
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And it's official - Dragon's nose beats Dog's. Still, now that Erza is bleeding, I'm sure he'll find her even faster.
That's been know for quite a while. Dragonslayers continually just casually track and locate people by scent, even when they've been put in a carriage or something for transport. Or do stuff like locate them by the scent of gunpowder from just a shot or two. You won't get that with dogs.

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Did Hiro watch Berserk.. This was painful to watch...
Berserk is apparently one of his favorite series.
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Old 2013-12-28, 13:03   Link #12098
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holy shit erza bdsm, fucking love it
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Old 2013-12-28, 13:13   Link #12099
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Midnight is a pretty swell fella, he actually respected Richard's stance on not fighting.
And all he wants is his freedom, eh that's nothing bad.
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Old 2013-12-28, 13:14   Link #12100
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There'd be no point to FT Hentai drawn by Hiro Avaricia, though if he ever decides to get it animated he'd have the voice cast down, FT girls have no nipples.
TOSH! Where the hell is TOSH when you need him
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