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2011-10-14, 01:01 | Link #342 |
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She knew and the reason she didn't approach beforehand was probably because... It's not like for the 10 years since she has never made a friend or anything! It's not like she wants to be seen as clingy or anything! It's not like she cared when the boy might have already forgotten or anything!
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2011-10-14, 11:05 | Link #344 |
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I think a better way to construct this argument is as following-
Yozora - past Kodaka - present Sena - future Yozora represents, as you say, the past. She still values her memories with Kodaka to the extent that she is willing to break the club to preserve it (as evidence with her wish that Sena is never here.) She lives in the past, relish in the past, and is unable to move on. Kodaka represents the present. He dislikes changes, perhaps due to all the life-changing events forced onto him throughout his life (constant moving, mother died, etc.) Whatever his reason is, he prefers things to stay static. Which is why when other people try to befriend him, he instinctively pushes them away. Interesting enough, his reluctant for changes also go backward: to preserve the present, he can forgo his past. We can see this when he questioned Yozora about her fixation on their past. Kodaka specifically asked her which is more important, their past or the club now, and it is obvious which one he wants. Sena represents the future. She rarely let things in the past tie her up. In addition to her little run-in with Yozora about their childhood, she shows this trait in other area as well. For example, she was only slightly disappointed that Kodaka doesn't take their arranged marriage seriously. Sena believes that what's important is the future, and what determines the future is her current actions. Therefore it doesn't really matter that Kodaka doesn't take that seriously- she will just make him take her serious. These three characters lead to a very interesting development. Initially Yozora usually dominates over Sena with her verbal abuse. You need to have an extensive knowledge of the past to be able to pull off something like this. Sena cannot matches her in this regard because she always look forward; she never scheme or sabotage others, she only work hard to make the future better. As the series progresses, you can slowly see Sena turns the table. All the effort she puts into making the future better is starting to pay off. At the same time, Yozora is still stuck in her cocoon. This imbalance development led to the confrontation in the latest volume.
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2011-10-14, 11:36 | Link #346 | ||
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- Company takes their script writers and start building the script. - They constantly call the original author for supervision, asking him if A character would say this or that or would do that or this or things like that. - After they script is done they had a meeting with the author and he goes over the script approving or rejecting parts on it constantly. - If way too many parts are labeled wrong, they go back to the first step, if the corrections are not that many they fix what they can and they move to the next script. Btw things aren't done "in one go", every script covers a fraction of the game (like 1 or perhaps two routes of a certain heroin, things like that). That's the usual method, I haven't heard if Haganai is going to aim for a different style or something. Quote:
That could change in the following volumes, forcing him to act his gut feeling as to keep club together. Or something.
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2011-10-14, 11:42 | Link #347 |
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Onto another topic, this one is just my speculation-
I think there is a very definite reason why Yozora didn't tell Kodaka that they are childhood friend. Here are what we know 1. Yozora tried to tell Kodaka that she is a girl. 2. Shelooked both happy and sad when Kodaka finally recognizes her. I think it is given that Yozora likes Kodaka 10 years ago already, and that she wants them to be more than friends Why else would she tries to convince him she is a girl by wearing girly clothing? But they seperated and that's that. Now 10 years later. She reunites with the guy. She now looks completely different, and the guy obviously doesn't recognizes her. Heck, he might not even remember their time together. She was frozen in fear. If he indeed not remember her, then all her memories with him in the past are now worthless. Her only 'BFF' turns out to be not so forever after all. But all these changed in the classroom scene. (This is where my speculation starts) So she has a plan. What if she can reproduce the condition that led them together 10 years ago? It shouldn't be hard at all. She knows that Kodaka is still as crowd-aversive as before. They can't be fight buddies anymore. But what they can do is, instead of fighting other people together, she can proposes that they can befriend other people together. Hopefully this can recreate the condition that led to their friendship. Then why didn't Yozora just tell Kodaka 'hey we were friends, remember?' I believe this is because Yozora loves Kodaka. It might be that she wants Kodaka to fall in love with her, not because of their past relation, but because of her current girl self. She wants him to fall in love with the now her. The plan would have worked too, if other people didn't join. At the end she's sick of this game. Which is why she cut her hair. I suspect that she knows all along that Kodaka will recognizes her if she reverts back to short hair. She wasn't surprised at all (happy and sad, but not surprised) when Kodaka yelled out her nickname. This act is almost her way of conceding defeat. On the surface this puts her ahead of the pack (omg childhood friend!!!) In truth, however, it puts her at a very big disadvantage. Do you recall any best friend of a MC in an harem series wins at the end? It is difficult to convert from very good friendship into love. Yozora knows this, and that is why she hid this fact and try to attract him femininely (failure as it might be). But she is sick of pretending, so she just went ahead and do it. BTW, Kodaka confronted Kate about his arranged marriage (as he figures Maria, the person who broke the news, heard it from her older sister ). From the way Kate replies, she is definitely back in the race.
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2011-10-14, 11:56 | Link #348 | |
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I don't mean that he wants everything in his life to stay static. I think that he wants his interpersonal relationship to stay static. Yes he wants friend, but Rika analysis is that he (subconsciously) doesn't want 'deep' friends. Right now in the club, they are only 'shallow' friends. The framework of the club is such that it does not allow 2 particular people to become a lot closer than other people, and that's why you can equate the club = static when you look at it from Kodaka's perspective.
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2011-10-14, 12:00 | Link #349 | |
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2011-10-14, 12:04 | Link #350 | |
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2011-10-14, 12:27 | Link #351 |
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Yea, the speculation was from someone else, and it was stated in the "connect" chapter too that Yozora make the club to be a place for just the two of them, which is why she was extremely reluctant letting Sena join. I guess having a lot of people having no friend at her school was a miscalculation on Yozora's part lol.
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2011-10-14, 13:17 | Link #352 |
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well i thougth tomo chan was just yozora's lie to not admit she was practising some socialicing skills, but i already thougth that she only created the club for the two of them, the poster wansnt made to catch the eye or transmit any (clear) message, and was supposed to be for kodaka, she even kept maria away for a long time.
i would like if someone would make a summary of that connect, i dont even knew it existed.
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2011-10-16, 23:45 | Link #355 | ||
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I rarely played VN based on light novel like this, the only one I've played was OreImo Portable and I've read somewhere that the original author wrote Ayase and Manami (or was it Saori)'s route and that he used too many materials he intended to use for the light novel Quote:
Summary after you read it if you have the time to write, please? XD
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2011-10-17, 12:12 | Link #356 |
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It's already October 18th on where I live (and on Japan), so...
Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday dear ~~ Kobato-chwaan ~~ Ko~ba~to ~~ Kodaka no imouto ~~ Kobato-san ~~ Imoutogimi Happy birthday to you!!
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2011-10-17, 23:44 | Link #358 | |
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Mah, at least she gets to celebrate it with An-chan and his four girlfriends.
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2011-10-17, 23:44 | Link #359 | |
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Wheres Maria though I really feel sad for her I really love Sena in this pic, very mature looking with her outfit and them meat |
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