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Old 2014-07-26, 17:50   Link #21
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And so the hype train starts.

Do you think this'll have an MC with some kind of supernatural power or will this continue Kamachi's trend of crazy, but technically mundane protagonists who do the impossible with what little they have?
There has not been a single series so far wrought by Kamachi that wasn't the latter, but hey he said he was going to do something traditional so who knows.
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Old 2014-08-08, 11:56   Link #22
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Oh, so we did have a thread:
Blood Sign cover: http://dengekibunko.dengeki.com/newr...4-04-866861-3/

Summary:
>Summoning ceremonies can freely call forth even "those which lurk in the depths beyond the gods".
>One boy has top-level abilities even among the cutting-edge summoners who can use those ceremonies.
>He is the Unkilling King, Shiroyama Kyousuke.
>But this strongest boy summoner has a single fatal weakness.
>Certain "cursed words" spoken by girls: "Help me."
>When Kyousuke hears those words from Myounokawa Higan, a girl placed in the abyss of death, he throws himself into a city where three great summoner forces clash!

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Old 2014-08-08, 12:06   Link #23
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The art is so appealing.
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Old 2014-08-08, 12:08   Link #24
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Oh, so we did have a thread:
Blood Sign cover: http://dengekibunko.dengeki.com/newr...4-04-866861-3/

Summary:
>Summoning ceremonies can freely call forth even "those which lurk in the depths beyond the gods".
>One boy has top-level abilities even among the cutting-edge summoners who can use those ceremonies.
>He is the Unkilling King, Shiroyama Kyousuke.
>But this strongest boy summoner has a single fatal weakness.
>Certain "cursed words" spoken by girls: "Help me."
>When Kyousuke hears those words from Myounokawa Higan, a girl placed in the abyss of death, he throws himself into a city where three great summoner forces clash!

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It's official. Kamachi's first series where the main guy isn't the weakest.

This reeks like Hidan no Aria. So I'm guessing that silver-haired princess is one of "those which lurk in the depths beyond the gods"?
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Old 2014-08-08, 12:09   Link #25
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Let's start with the good points, eh?
  1. The art is good.
  2. Kamachi is writing this, so the MC is most likely not going to be a wimp who takes sh*t from the female characters constantly.
  3. Uhh, Kamachi is writing this so most likely releases between volumes will be swift.
  4. Kamachi is writing this so hopefully the comedy won't completely revolve around abusive females using the MC as a whipping/burning/etc post.

Con
  1. OP MC. This will be Kamachi's first time using that archetype and it makes me worry since he's clearly more used to using the 'Underdog' archetype for his protagonists. What's worse is that a lot of the time OP MCs wreck the stories they're in because they aren't done well. For every Tatsuya Shiba, there are 5 Kiritos(Mary/Gary Stues).
  2. Based on the summary, the plot sounds utterly uninspired. It's going to take some serious magic on Kamachi's part to turn this into a winner.
  3. This series is only going to add to Kamachi's already loaded work schedule, so if this blows..not only will it take longer for HO novels to come out but it'll be because Kamachi insists on writing a HS battle fantasy novel. Like there aren't enough of those saturating the market these days.

Well, I can't think of any other cons but what I've listed is already making me leery.
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Old 2014-08-08, 12:10   Link #26
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Let's start with the good points, eh?
  1. The art is good.
  2. Kamachi is writing this, so the MC is most likely not going to be a wimp who takes sh*t from the female characters constantly.
  3. Uhh, Kamachi is writing this so most likely releases between volumes will be swift.
  4. The comedy won't completely revolve around abusive females using the MC as a whipping/burning/etc post

Bad.
  1. OP MC, this will be Kamachi's first time using this archetype and a lot of the time..they aren't done well.
  2. Based on the summary, the plot sounds utterly generic and uninspired. This is going to take some real magic from Kamachi to turn this into a winner.

Well, I can't think of any other bads but what I've listed is already making me leery.
I wouldn't count on 4. As for 2, he did say he would be doing something generic beforehand.
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Old 2014-08-08, 12:12   Link #27
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@bakato: It's said it's Index-like rather than anything else like Aria.

but I'm looking forward to it. Girls are cute, art is good and MC sounds like OP Touma + Kamachi.
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Old 2014-08-08, 12:14   Link #28
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@bakato: It's said it's Index-like rather than anything else like Aria.

but I'm looking forward to it. Girls are cute, art is good and MC sounds like OP Touma + Kamachi.
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>But this strongest boy summoner has a single fatal weakness.
>Certain "cursed words" spoken by girls: "Help me."
Sounds like Aria to me.
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Old 2014-08-08, 12:15   Link #29
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My least favourite character is most definitely the one on the left, which without a doubt be an imouto.
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Old 2014-08-08, 12:16   Link #30
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Sounds like Aria to me.
Just over that...reminds me more of index though. Particularly Touma.
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Old 2014-08-08, 12:51   Link #31
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Just over that...reminds me more of index though. Particularly Touma.
Nah, Touma is the underdog while this sounds like it will have an OP protagonist.
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Old 2014-08-08, 12:53   Link #32
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Nah, Touma is the underdog while this sounds like it will have an OP protagonist.
Yeah and Touma's helped plenty of guys before.
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Old 2014-08-08, 13:43   Link #33
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The art is pretty good and the girls are pretty cute. OP protagonists can be pretty good depending on how they are handled so I interested to see how Kamachi handles writing one. He is already used to underdogs so it's nice to see him trying to do something new.
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Old 2014-08-08, 14:22   Link #34
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Nah, Touma is the underdog while this sounds like it will have an OP protagonist.
Not the OP part. I'm saying he has that similar quirk that Touma has. The help me or save me. Which would be more similar to the novels the author has wrote himself than others.
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Old 2014-08-08, 17:30   Link #35
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The cover art looks fantastic.

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Not the OP part. I'm saying he has that similar quirk that Touma has. The help me or save me. Which would be more similar to the novels the author has wrote himself than others.
So, I'm not the only one who thought this when I saw it.
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Old 2014-08-08, 17:33   Link #36
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Thank you, Hiss.

and yes it's quite good! I was worried about the art, but it looks great.
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Old 2014-08-08, 17:44   Link #37
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Oh, so we did have a thread
My exact reaction. Let's see what we're getting into.

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>Summoning ceremonies can freely call forth even "those which lurk in the depths beyond the gods".
Funny how Index is just reaching this level.

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>One boy has top-level abilities even among the cutting-edge summoners who can use those ceremonies.
>He is the Unkilling King, Shiroyama Kyousuke.
This sounds OP as hell.

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>But this strongest boy summoner has a single fatal weakness.
>Certain "cursed words" spoken by girls: "Help me."
This sounds Touma as all hell, though. What a clash.

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>When Kyousuke hears those words from Myounokawa Higan, a girl placed in the abyss of death, he throws himself into a city where three great summoner forces clash!
And this really sounds like Index. Hopefully this time the girl will actually be the protagonist.

..what? You never know

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So, a japanese faction, a chinese faction, and... swimsuit faction?

Going for the OP right off the bat sounds risky, but then again, even Accelerator has moments when he prefers more... mundane methods, to put it kindly, and who knows, there might be a weakness to the summoning process itself or something like that.

The summon part sounds interesting. Now, those who are new to Kamachi, don't think "Summons" equals "cute girls who want it hard", we'll most likely be seeing some crazy, reality bending stuff here, as "orthodox" as this series might be, kinda like Strike the Blood, but bigger.

Don't worry, though, we WILL have a surplus of cute girls, who'll often want it hard too And most likely manage to be good characters as well.

Mark me as carefully optimistic here.
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Old 2014-08-08, 18:14   Link #38
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It's looking really cool but the only thing I'm iffy about its the OP protag, one of the reasons I love Kamachi so much is because of his underdog characters so im not sure how im gonna feel about this guy
then again hhe has the hero thing going on so..
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Old 2014-08-08, 18:27   Link #39
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when is this going to be released ?
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Old 2014-08-08, 18:28   Link #40
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when is this going to be released ?
September.

Cover art's better than before.

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