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KiraYamatoFan · 2016-06-10, 16:28

Yeah, but I somehow feel that France could have done a lot better than that. Playing Olivier Giroud as a target man is not a good idea when you need the team to have a better buildup play. How many chances did Giroud squander again today? Anthony Martial should have started on the wing while Griezmann should play as a false 9. The front 3 needs to be a lively unit.

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2016-06-10, 17:05

France's second goal is beautiful. I guess that's pretty much the only thing I can say about this first EURO match

. The other things left no strong impression on me.

SuitUp · 2016-06-10, 17:21

Only thing is got to say about France is Kanté is a fucking beast, reminds me of Makelele

Azuma Denton · 2016-06-10, 21:37

Giroud is playing the same as in Arsenal, as a build up so Griezzman, Pogba, and Payet can come from behind.

KiraYamatoFan · 2016-06-10, 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azuma Denton

Giroud is playing the same as in Arsenal, as a build up so Griezzman, Pogba, and Payet can come from behind.

Giroud is the same problem to France as Mario Gomez was to Germany. From the moment the Germans decided to drop the concept of a slow target man, they became more dangerous (as with Özil, Kroos and Müller building up behind the fox that was Klose). For France's sake, I think they are better off playing with a running false 9 (Griezmann) while a talented winger like Martial or Coman fills up the 11th position.

Irenicus · 2016-06-10, 22:09

I was watching the game at this bar, right, and had to leave when it was 0-0 a bit into the second half. Well right after I got out Giroud scored.

Le sigh.

But anyway, if Romania is an indication of what the underdogs are going to do in this Euros, we're in for a great tournament. They pressed France everywhere and played football rather than shut up shop. Pogba was made ineffective, and so was Griezmann despite a few moments of his usual brilliant movement. Unfortunately for them Payet was unstoppable and Kante kept the French midfield in the fight.

Giroud did alright IMO. He did score the first goal and despite Romania being heavily on him he was able to be in the position for several key chances. He was clearly the focal point of the attack and Romania knew it, though I can't help but wonder if it's because Deschamps was being one-dimensional or if the plan B, for Griezmann to do that second striker run into the box to take advantage, didn't come off today (also partly because Romania was also onto it and they were heavily tracking Griezmann too).

Defence-wise, Romania did great but France felt wobbly. Rami wasn't quite good enough or maybe he didn't have enough chemistry with Kos, and the fullbacks were limited. Sagna is no Bellerin. :P

Either way a good start to a potentially cracking tournament. 24 bloody teams! Some of these teams are coming off a high

Blaat · 2016-06-11, 16:02

England, can't even beat the worst team of the tournament so far.

KiraYamatoFan · 2016-06-11, 16:12

Typical England. Roy Hodgson has been stupid for not taking off Adam Lallana and Raheem Sterling sooner; both players could not score in a brothel. Meanwhile, Jamie Vardy was on the bench... Some managers at international level are just plain dumb.

In other matches, I was surprised Albania managed to hold their ground and even be more thereatening after the dismissal of their captain. Nevertheless, the Swiss held on to win. In the Wales/Slovakia match, I was laughing at the comedy of errors from both sides on the winning goal. Otherwise, it was an interesting duel.

Blaat · 2016-06-11, 16:20

Pretty much how I saw it Kira, although I thought Switzerland defending a 1-0 lead against a 10-man team was rather embarrassing.

Irenicus · 2016-06-13, 03:30

USA tops Copa America group. Brazil out, albeit to a Hand of God. What is going on.

KiraYamatoFan · 2016-06-13, 03:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irenicus

USA tops Copa America group. Brazil out, albeit to a Hand of God. What is going on.

For USA, it's the advantage of playing at home.

Brazil... descent into hell continues after the 7-1 massacre of 2014. It's still pretty much a team with a lot of average players and a very weak mental strength. I never felt like Brazil would go far enough in my books. It's safe to say they are wasted for at least a few years (if not a decade).

Blaat · 2016-06-13, 15:52

Belgium vs Italy was the best game so far.

Really impressed by Italy.

Irenicus · 2016-06-15, 00:39

Iceland drew Portugal. Ronaldo is pissed.

Bloody ICELAND!!!

They have an amazing story, too. It's a very unique kind of Northern European Social Democratic fairy tale. Monied egalitarianism. Boom money wisely spent. UEFA B-licensed professional coaches for everyone. Weather-proof, spacious "football houses" for practice and for play. The author called it a kind of small-island ambition, a collectively planned heroic achievement, if you will.

A very different vision of world football to Brazil's much romanticized favela footballers, the third world rags-to-riches fairy tale with its two hundred million people-per-one-Neymar ratio, yet they are both great narratives in their own right.

I'm curious what kind of football stories will define countries like China and the USA. Will China's master plan produce great results that feel a little bit like Germany's youth revolution, or will it collapse or be corrupted beyond repair by the specter of greed and relentless commercialism? Is the MLS story one of sustainable investment, building a true American soccer culture one strategic plan at a time, or that of disappointment and corporate strangulation? Is there an Alexis Sanchez learning to kick a ball on the dirty, overcrowded streets of Mumbai, one day to lead India to glory, or will he die of dysentery before he could?

Azuma Denton · 2016-06-15, 03:10

So Iceland is the dark horse of this tournament?

So far there still has not been any upset to EURO.

Regarding China, no, I dont think they will speak much of internation football as their League is loosely adapted from EPL. And you know the state of England.

(Read: their club owner only cares about merchandise and money)

germanturkey · 2016-06-17, 22:00

spain is starting to look solid. if they click, they can still outplay every team in the tournament.

germanturkey · 2016-06-18, 23:02

oh my god mexico.

G0rd0 · 2016-06-18, 23:08

That was embarrassing for a Mexico fan like me

Irenicus · 2016-06-19, 00:39

USA banter.

We're gonna lose 8-0♪

KiraYamatoFan · 2016-06-19, 03:22

Oh, somebody stop the damn match! Enough is enough!

Seriously, the Mexican defenders were just absolutely atrocious.

G0rd0 · 2016-06-19, 10:47

i guess that is what happens when the coach keeps switching the lineups well cant say im surprised we always choke when we get this far but 7-0 is just humiliating

2016-06-10, 17:05	Link #5742
Obelisk ze Tormentor Black Steel Knight Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Indonesia	France's second goal is beautiful. I guess that's pretty much the only thing I can say about this first EURO match . The other things left no strong impression on me. __________________

2016-06-10, 17:21	Link #5743
SuitUp ¡Gracias Totales! Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Entre caníbales... Age: 31	Only thing is got to say about France is Kanté is a fucking beast, reminds me of Makelele __________________ Tómate el tiempo en desmenuzarme...

2016-06-11, 16:02	Link #5747
Blaat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004	England, can't even beat the worst team of the tournament so far. __________________ MyAnimeList

2016-06-11, 16:20	Link #5749
Blaat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004	Pretty much how I saw it Kira, although I thought Switzerland defending a 1-0 lead against a 10-man team was rather embarrassing. __________________ MyAnimeList

2016-06-13, 15:52	Link #5752
Blaat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004	Belgium vs Italy was the best game so far. Really impressed by Italy. __________________ MyAnimeList

2016-06-10, 16:28	Link #5741
KiraYamatoFan Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada Age: 40	Yeah, but I somehow feel that France could have done a lot better than that. Playing Olivier Giroud as a target man is not a good idea when you need the team to have a better buildup play. How many chances did Giroud squander again today? Anthony Martial should have started on the wing while Griezmann should play as a false 9. The front 3 needs to be a lively unit.

2016-06-10, 21:37	Link #5744
Azuma Denton ~AD~ Join Date: Oct 2006	Giroud is playing the same as in Arsenal, as a build up so Griezzman, Pogba, and Payet can come from behind.

2016-06-10, 22:09	Link #5746
Irenicus Le fou, c'est moi Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA Age: 34	I was watching the game at this bar, right, and had to leave when it was 0-0 a bit into the second half. Well right after I got out Giroud scored. Le sigh. But anyway, if Romania is an indication of what the underdogs are going to do in this Euros, we're in for a great tournament. They pressed France everywhere and played football rather than shut up shop. Pogba was made ineffective, and so was Griezmann despite a few moments of his usual brilliant movement. Unfortunately for them Payet was unstoppable and Kante kept the French midfield in the fight. Giroud did alright IMO. He did score the first goal and despite Romania being heavily on him he was able to be in the position for several key chances. He was clearly the focal point of the attack and Romania knew it, though I can't help but wonder if it's because Deschamps was being one-dimensional or if the plan B, for Griezmann to do that second striker run into the box to take advantage, didn't come off today (also partly because Romania was also onto it and they were heavily tracking Griezmann too). Defence-wise, Romania did great but France felt wobbly. Rami wasn't quite good enough or maybe he didn't have enough chemistry with Kos, and the fullbacks were limited. Sagna is no Bellerin. :P Either way a good start to a potentially cracking tournament. 24 bloody teams! Some of these teams are coming off a high

2016-06-11, 16:12	Link #5748
KiraYamatoFan Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada Age: 40	Typical England. Roy Hodgson has been stupid for not taking off Adam Lallana and Raheem Sterling sooner; both players could not score in a brothel. Meanwhile, Jamie Vardy was on the bench... Some managers at international level are just plain dumb. In other matches, I was surprised Albania managed to hold their ground and even be more thereatening after the dismissal of their captain. Nevertheless, the Swiss held on to win. In the Wales/Slovakia match, I was laughing at the comedy of errors from both sides on the winning goal. Otherwise, it was an interesting duel.

2016-06-13, 03:30	Link #5750
Irenicus Le fou, c'est moi Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA Age: 34	USA tops Copa America group. Brazil out, albeit to a Hand of God. What is going on.

2016-06-15, 00:39	Link #5753
Irenicus Le fou, c'est moi Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA Age: 34	Iceland drew Portugal. Ronaldo is pissed. Bloody ICELAND!!! They have an amazing story, too. It's a very unique kind of Northern European Social Democratic fairy tale. Monied egalitarianism. Boom money wisely spent. UEFA B-licensed professional coaches for everyone. Weather-proof, spacious "football houses" for practice and for play. The author called it a kind of small-island ambition, a collectively planned heroic achievement, if you will. A very different vision of world football to Brazil's much romanticized favela footballers, the third world rags-to-riches fairy tale with its two hundred million people-per-one-Neymar ratio, yet they are both great narratives in their own right. I'm curious what kind of football stories will define countries like China and the USA. Will China's master plan produce great results that feel a little bit like Germany's youth revolution, or will it collapse or be corrupted beyond repair by the specter of greed and relentless commercialism? Is the MLS story one of sustainable investment, building a true American soccer culture one strategic plan at a time, or that of disappointment and corporate strangulation? Is there an Alexis Sanchez learning to kick a ball on the dirty, overcrowded streets of Mumbai, one day to lead India to glory, or will he die of dysentery before he could?

2016-06-15, 03:10	Link #5754
Azuma Denton ~AD~ Join Date: Oct 2006	So Iceland is the dark horse of this tournament? So far there still has not been any upset to EURO. Regarding China, no, I dont think they will speak much of internation football as their League is loosely adapted from EPL. And you know the state of England. (Read: their club owner only cares about merchandise and money)

2016-06-17, 22:00	Link #5755
germanturkey Udon-YAAAAAAAA Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 35	spain is starting to look solid. if they click, they can still outplay every team in the tournament. __________________ Aria is the best series EVER. Rewatch Origination with me. Blessed are those who listen to headphones, for they listen to the sound of heaven.

2016-06-18, 23:02	Link #5756
germanturkey Udon-YAAAAAAAA Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 35	oh my god mexico. __________________ Aria is the best series EVER. Rewatch Origination with me. Blessed are those who listen to headphones, for they listen to the sound of heaven.

2016-06-18, 23:08	Link #5757
G0rd0 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012	That was embarrassing for a Mexico fan like me

2016-06-19, 00:39	Link #5758
Irenicus Le fou, c'est moi Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA Age: 34	USA banter. We're gonna lose 8-0♪

2016-06-19, 03:22	Link #5759
KiraYamatoFan Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada Age: 40	Oh, somebody stop the damn match! Enough is enough! Seriously, the Mexican defenders were just absolutely atrocious.

2016-06-19, 10:47	Link #5760
G0rd0 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012	i guess that is what happens when the coach keeps switching the lineups well cant say im surprised we always choke when we get this far but 7-0 is just humiliating