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AP Sources: GOP weighs short-term debt limit hike
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...10-09-19-34-17 Charity to pay military death benefits http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...10-09-18-37-11 Isn't me or Ann Coulter is even more toxic and lunatic than most Fox News commentators ?
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2013-10-10, 00:20 | Link #31062 | |
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One more:
Obama vs. the Veterans http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/..._veterans.html Quote:
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2013-10-10, 01:49 | Link #31063 |
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Libyan PM Ali Zeidan seized by armed men:
"Mr Zeidan was taken from his hotel at dawn "by gunmen to an unknown place for unknown reasons", said a statement on the government's website. The details are unclear - sources say Mr Zeidan was arrested by an anti-crime militia allied to the government, but others that he had been kidnapped." See: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24470850 |
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Libyan PM freed after stunning abduction
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...10-10-06-19-39 Azerbaijan announces election winner _ before vote http://bigstory.ap.org/article/azerb...on-winner-vote
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Singapore diplomat bitten by graft charges over pineapple tarts
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2013-10-10, 08:01 | Link #31066 | |
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Do you think he actually took the money? Or he really bought 90k$ worth of gifts... it's just not pineapple tart and not for general official purposes? I means the pineapple tarts seems to be there to balance some illegal expense, rather than just a scheme for him to steal money
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2013-10-10, 08:09 | Link #31067 | |
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I suspected that he actually put a claim up for expensive wine and bought cheap ones instead. Then instead of declaring excess, he held it "for future uses". My point targets the investigation committee, not the diplomat. Money must have been really tight for them to scrutinise all of these instead of "due trust"; given that most ministry people actually have ALOT of work, he must have put that on his to-do list many pages later. Then again, $90k is no small amount here. That is the amount I earn in 10-15 years.
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2013-10-10, 09:39 | Link #31068 | |
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GOP meets to mull short-term hike
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2013-10-10, 10:12 | Link #31069 |
Logician and Romantic
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At this point Obama should go for broke and get everything settled for the duration of his remaining term. This should be the last time the economy is held hostage, and if he manges it history would remember him for it.
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2013-10-10, 12:07 | Link #31070 |
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The best solution would be a bill to end the ridiculous debt limit, but the Republican House would never give up its "leverage," to use the Speaker's term. There are only two other countries, I believe, that detach appropriations from government borrowing. Any rational budgetary model would simply require that the government pay all the bills it incurs and borrows whatever it needs to do so if it does not collect enough in tax revenue. Now we have the absurdly anomalous situation that the government can threaten not to pay for the expenses it has already incurred. It may not be apparent to people outside the US, but the debt ceiling applies to expenses already incurred; it has no relationship to future spending.
In 1979, Democrat Richard Gephardt instituted exactly such a rule, that the debt ceiling would automatically adjust to match the level of appropriations. The House Republicans waived the rule in 1995 to once again gain leverage over a Democratic President, in that case Bill Clinton. That decision led to the two government shutdowns during his Administration. The biggest problem for US government finances is our low rate of taxation. Americans want a government that provides a wide range of services and maintains the world's largest military, but they do not want to pay for it. US taxes at all levels constitute about 25% of GDP, compared to an OECD average of 33-35%. That puts US tax collections at the same level as Turkey's. Increasing our rate of taxation to 30% of GDP would raise about $750 billion and essentially eliminate the current Federal deficit. Rather than simply raising rates across the board, I would start by eliminating the distinctions in the tax code that treat income from capital more favorably than income from labor and raise the top rate to 50% or so. That's still considerably less than the rates during the Republican Eisenhower Administration of the 1950s when the top brackets were taxed at 91%. I'd cut the budgets for defense and "homeland security" as well, but even cutting the Defense Department in half, which I favor, would not alone eliminate current deficits. That would reduce spending by some $300-350 billion, about the size of the projected deficit in 2015, but projected deficits in the out years are higher. A large contributor to those increases is the projected rise in interest rates after the Federal Reserve cuts back on "quantitative easing."
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2013-10-10, 12:15 | Link #31071 |
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Republicans get most blame for shutdown but no one’s a hero
"WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama and lawmakers must rise above their incessant bickering and do more to end the partial government shutdown, according to a poll Wednesday that places the brunt of the blame on Republicans but finds no one standing tall in Washington." and "The Associated Press-GfK survey affirms expectations by many in Washington — Republicans among them — that the GOP may end up taking the biggest hit in public opinion from the shutdown, as happened when much of the government closed 17 years ago. But the situation is fluid nine days into the shutdown and there’s plenty of disdain to go around." http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...6ee_story.html
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2013-10-10, 15:00 | Link #31076 |
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Informing myself? You're the one who doesn't seem to know how the government works. It's all based on negotiations, and Obama is flat out refusing to do any, which he should in these circumstances. Might want to read this article, who explains it much better than I ever could. Not to mention Obama's approval is rock-bottom, he needs to stop trying to force his way or the highway when the people clearly don't approve anymore.
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2013-10-10, 15:02 | Link #31077 |
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Why the hell do you "negotiate" on something that was already decided upon and is supposed to be receiving funds without hinder? You're basically saying that one can completely tear up a finished contract to start "negotiations" to get what one wants.
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2013-10-10, 15:09 | Link #31078 | |
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I do not know if Obama is right or wrong, I can't judge him because I do not have the necesssary knowledge to do so, but I know one thing, if he lets the rep wins this showdown, we will have the same thing over and over, and one day US will truly hit the roof. When you are the first economical country and pull with you the whole world, you can't have your allies, or ennemies see you in such a pitiful situation. The opposite party need to understand (republicans now and democrats tomorrow) that the debt ceiling is and must never become a political tool. Last edited by Zakoo; 2013-10-10 at 15:21. |
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2013-10-10, 16:04 | Link #31079 |
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The republicans will fund the government with something out and democrats won't fund government unless something is in. This is bad, pathetic behaviour on both sides. Just what is your criteria for assigning all the blame on the republicans?
Stop and think for a second if the tactic that Obama used became commonplace in the future. I'm shutting down the government until abortion is banned. I'm shutting down the government until every gun in the country is confiscated. Extreme examples but you get the point. This is why negotiation exists, you offer things up to get the other party to cooperate. Except Obama is flat-out refusing to do it, but somehow it's all the republicans' fault. Don't be stupid. |
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This is not how policies are suppose to be decided. Especially policies that are legal and can only be changed via certain means. And it appears you do not understand that Obama wasn't forcing anything. The Heath Care Act is passed, it is Constitutional determined by the courts. If you want to remove such a law without due process then you render all laws meaningless. Quote:
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NO, you do NOT "offer" anything to the person who threatens you. Because that will just keep happening every day as a result. You stop it by refusing. I have no idea why you have the completely opposite idea of how to negotiate. You negotiate when both sides want something to happen. But NOT when one side threatens to blow up the country.
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