2008-10-15, 13:14 | Link #1861 |
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Ah, as far as I'm concerned, unless it's blantently obvious that a certain character died (like we see them get shot, their eyes close, a EKG flatlines, etc.), I generally don't have a problem w/ them coming back. It's fiction. People survive seemingly unsurvible things in fiction all the time. (At least main/secondary characters. Characters that are basically a show's equivalents of 'Red Shirts' drop like flies.)
It's why I wouldn't have a problem w/ Lelouch surviving so long as they didn't use some half-assed excuse that doesn't really explain anything. (I'm assuming, if he did survive, it would have to do w/ Geass, so they could FINALLY get around to explaining what the hell Geass is.)
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2008-10-15, 13:20 | Link #1862 |
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there are three rules set by the guy running derailed by darry (formerly anime on my mind)
which i think rather point out very well on how to handle character deaths in order for them to work 1)a character must be importent and the loss must be felt (think kamina's death) 2)the death must be in as fast and as brutal of a way as possible in a shit happens kinda way it could be a heroic death (like mu la flaga) but it must happen fast and not be drawn out into narm teritory 3) the most importent one the one thing that christianity, sunrise, and marvel comics never seem to learn dead people stay dead otherwise dont bother killing them (or making it look like they died on screen) i agree that no importen character dies off screen but if the death scene (or what is ment to be believed to be a death scene) is shown on screen (like the light closing over nunnaly's face, or cornellia getting riddeled with bullets then they are dead and should stay dead for plot sake
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2008-10-15, 13:24 | Link #1863 | |
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2008-10-15, 13:29 | Link #1864 | |
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if it looks like they are dead (and the light on nunnaly's face was as good of a death scene as possible) then they should be treated as dead and not come back my jaw actually dropped when i saw that scene (go into the light nunnaly) it worked so well having lelouch's reason for living disapear in a flash of light but they ended up screwing it over
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2008-10-15, 13:32 | Link #1865 | |
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If you a so sure that we see Nunnaly die on screen, why don't you go get a picture of the exact moment that she "died". Oh wait... you cannot since we do not see her die. Last edited by Shuuda; 2008-10-15 at 13:48. |
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2008-10-15, 13:44 | Link #1866 |
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@Shuuda
very nice point in the Marianne-connection between Anya and Jeremiah. Didn't figure out for myself. @bladeofdarkness. You might be not satisfyied about the ending and people that seemed dead at a certain point not being so, but you have to admit that this ending has the merit of giving Lelouch's experience of life with the Geass a meaningfull and somehow touching conclusion. It would not have been so withouth Nunnaly, and Lelouch had to experience the loss and the rejection of his most beloved human being and principal alibi to come to this point. It might be not the most realistic way to bring her back, who cares, it's an anime after all! There was a solid reason for the final development of Lelouch character for making him believe Nunnaly is gone and then bringing Nunnaly back. It was not something tha happened just because. The big boss cliché is something I personally do no crave for. But that's up to personal tastes, I guess... @blottyparchment thanks for the translation, it was very nice of you to share. Make sure to share more if you can ^^ |
2008-10-15, 13:50 | Link #1867 |
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i want to make it clear
the last ep saved the show for me it was a very good ep a nice twist (unless you actually read "god emperor of dune") and a very nice epiloge but the problem was that the ep NEEDED to save the show in the first place i was living my life in between code geass episodes up until ep 20 came along it was the best show ever and then the last arc came about and suddenly the show needs to be saved it should have been the best show in years but the last arc turned it into such a trainwreak that if ep 25 wasnt as good as it were i would have ranked the show as a 7 out of 10 (all 7 points for the plot up to ep 20)
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2008-10-15, 13:58 | Link #1869 | |
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the show needed to be saved since shnizel ended up being a flop lelouch and suzaku both turned into completely amoral jerks (i still consider lelouch's actions to be rape the dog) and the whole plot was basiclly reduced to "lets have a big battle between lelouch and all of his allies"
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2008-10-15, 14:05 | Link #1870 | |
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2008-10-15, 14:12 | Link #1871 | |
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here them say the whole 20% thing negotioate it up to 40% and thats it one world goverment (in a way) no more war no more nothing instead he ended up triggering world war ZERO and ended up killing many people (many of whom were his own brainwashed troops) the idea of making yourself the focus of hate and then arrenging for your own death is not new (god emperor of dune) its a nice idea but it could have ended messy and the fact that (like he told c.c) he was ready to even kill nunnaly inorder to do it make it kinda hard to like him at the time
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2008-10-15, 14:19 | Link #1872 | |
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2008-10-15, 14:21 | Link #1873 | |
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mis-lead by other people telling her facts which are actually true (he just didnt tell her all the facts) does not equal delusional
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2008-10-15, 14:25 | Link #1874 |
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@ Train - Actually, The UFN was going to let Lelouch join as long as he did so under their terms because Brittannia had the greatest population count and would have majority rule in voting. Lelouch opted instead to use the situation as a diversion to send Suzaku in and threaten them all for ZR.
As for Nunnally, well... i kinda agree with you there but she had the same idea as Lelouch in making Domacles as the symbol of hatred. She was just short-sighted enough to not reach her hand to her left and see if Schienzel was manipulating her. |
2008-10-15, 14:31 | Link #1877 | |
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2008-10-15, 14:35 | Link #1879 | |
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not her being delusional
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