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ReddyRedWolf · 2010-03-18, 04:56

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

I feel real bad for him; I wish there's some way he can save anyone. Maybe saving Touma's life by risking his own?

He already did that. Earning him a bullet in the head. Last Order is Accelerator's morality pet all the Misaka's he has killed and Misaka Worst has the same face.

I wouldn't pass the posibility Accelerator is insane. Preying on middle school girls with the same face over and over he may have started identifying with them. Since what he did is basically serial murders of over 10,000 girls there is a posibility of sexual gratification involved in the killings. Here comes a mini-version of the girls he's been killing who is sympathetic to him. He started to bond with her. Trouble happens and she gets sick he feels powerless. Then comes a more mature version of the girl he protects he can't bring himself to kill another girl with the same face anymore. Hence when she killed herself he snapped.

LastResolve · 2010-03-18, 07:23

just because accelarator is a phycho doesnt mean he raped the sisters lol

MrTerrorist · 2010-03-18, 08:11

Dude not funny.
Even if he didn't raped them, he found pleasure in hurting them very painfully in many ways before killing them. Accelerator is a sadist and enjoy what he did to the Sisters. It was only after meeting Last Order that he realizes how horrible of a monster he was as he always thought of the Sisters as his playthings not humans with feelings.

Chaos2Frozen · 2010-03-18, 08:34

I think it's slightly more complicating than that. If Last Order's theory is true, then all this time throughout the entire experiment he was trying to scare off the Sisters, meaning that to a tiny degree, he didn't want to continue.

zato_1one · 2010-03-18, 08:59

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

I think it's slightly more complicating than that. If Last Order's theory is true, then all this time throughout the entire experiment he was trying to scare off the Sisters, meaning that to a tiny degree, he didn't want to continue.

I agree with MrTerrorist. He looked really enjoy killing the sisters. If he didn't want to continue then he could simple quit the experiment. No one could stop him.

Seihai · 2010-03-18, 09:00

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

I think it's slightly more complicating than that. If Last Order's theory is true, then all this time throughout the entire experiment he was trying to scare off the Sisters, meaning that to a tiny degree, he didn't want to continue.

Yup. Hard shell, weak core.
That over 10,000 Sisters were killed is a fact but no matter the crime, they gotta move on one way or another.

Chaos2Frozen · 2010-03-18, 09:13

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Originally Posted by zato_1one

I agree with MrTerrorist. He looked really enjoy killing the sisters. If he didn't want to continue then he could simple quit the experiment. No one could stop him.

I believe Part of him wanted to attain Level 6. As we saw it, even as a child he was always attacked by people. By attending Level 6, he hoped that nobody would even consider attacking him anymore. He's just tired of it.

Another part that I read from the manga was that Accelerator never once thought that his powers could be used for anything except for destruction. Yoshikawa mention that should he ever finds out that he could save people, he would definitely regret all the times that he could've done so.

Maahh~ To each his own, Accelerator never once denied that he was a scumbag and a monster for going through with the experiments.

ReddyRedWolf · 2010-03-18, 09:41

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Originally Posted by LastResolve

just because accelarator is a phycho doesnt mean he raped the sisters lol

Serial killing involves a certain factor of dominance, Accelerator doesn't need to sexually assault a Sister as it is part of the killing. Accelerator even made a lewd comment during a killing "Are you you showing me your butt?".

The relationship between Accelerator and Last Order appear to be a form of mutual Stockholm Syndrome. Last Order in her Point of View saw some kindness in Accelerator who murdered every Sister connected to her. In turn the face Accelerator saw again every day during the experiment is that of Mikoto Misaka thus some sympathy with victims as it progressed. Perhaps Accelerator did try to scare the Sisters but couldn't feel fear as they are programmed not to, but he did it Mikoto when she tried to kill him for murdering the Sister she bonded with.

As said his experience with Last Order humanized the Sisters to him thus couldn't kill another Sister anymore.

(I should really stop psychoanalyzing Level 5's

)

Seihai · 2010-03-18, 09:53

*says with serious yet calm voice*
"This is Academy City. A city occupied by 2.3 million students. Nothing that happens here is a surprise."

Chaos2Frozen · 2010-03-18, 09:55

It does make me wonder what would be his feelings towards to original Misaka Mikoto? Guilt? Indeference? Or would he associate her as one of them?

tsunade666 · 2010-03-18, 10:15

maybe the same feelings he have for LO. its the original to begin with. Though I think he much sympathize more the one being experiment with because he kinda understand it.

Seihai · 2010-03-18, 11:49

I'm still hoping for the moment when Accelerator saves Mikoto in some way.

Then we'll see.lol

Miraluka · 2010-03-18, 12:01

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Originally Posted by Vanish

I'm still hoping for the moment when Accelerator saves Mikoto in some way.

Then we'll see.lol

Maybe in the future events from the vol.21 and 22.

SoggySoyBean · 2010-03-18, 12:07

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Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

...the Sisters but couldn't feel fear as they are programmed not to, but he did it Mikoto when she tried to kill him for murdering the Sister she bonded with.

Hmm, I don't know, they all seem scared to me near the end of the expts. (LN, Index anime, and manga) They were perfectly capable of feeling fear and shock, did it in every single encouter with Accel. Oh yea an he taunts/intimidates Mikoto...

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

It does make me wonder what would be his feelings towards to original Misaka Mikoto? Guilt? Indeference? Or would he associate her as one of them?

They've only met...twice? They kinda went from hostilities to totally forgetting about each other >_<

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Originally Posted by Vanish

I'm still hoping for the moment when Accelerator saves Mikoto in some way.

Then we'll see.lol

I'm just waiting for them to meet up again!

I wonder how they feel about each other...

Miraluka · 2010-03-18, 15:07

Baka Tsuki has got updated the translations

Hell_ping · 2010-03-19, 00:09

Adding on to what Wilfriback said,

Vol 9 Chp 1 done

Lummie · 2010-03-19, 00:12

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Originally Posted by Teh_Ping

Adding on to what Wilfriback said,

Vol 9 Chp 1 done

Thanks a lot for all the hard work Teh_Ping

Chaos2Frozen · 2010-03-19, 00:34

Indeed, volume 9-10 have rather detailed explainations of the workings of magic, given Oriana's style, so alot of information just flew pass me- I'm only able to catch some of it like Stiyl's step-by-step instruction of how rune magic works. Hopefully with your translations I could fill in the gaps.

That said though, Touma's classroom antics are excellent

And their very first event got my laughing at Mikoto's reaction

Miraluka · 2010-03-19, 01:17

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Originally Posted by Teh_Ping

Adding on to what Wilfriback said,

Vol 9 Chp 1 done

Your work will always be praised by me

.

Lummie · 2010-03-19, 02:24

Found something to share with you guys

Spoiler for Summary vol.17:

Euro tunnel which connects England and France gets bombed. England is having hard time getting import goods thanks to tunnel shutting down as a result. Tsuchimikado asks Touma to go to Britain as Index's guardian, because there seems to be some sort of magic organization at work here, and they need Index's help. Before Touma could say anything sleeping gas grenade is thrown in from next door.

When Touma comes to he's already at the airport. Tsuchimikado got a ride ready for him (monster airplane they used to get back from Italy), but Touma and Index decides to use a regular airplane instead, leaving their cat to travel by himself on the super airplane. (which Itsuwa came to pick up) They use inter connective flight headed to Scotland and than to London since direct flights were sold out. During the ride the airplane is about to be hijacked by French extremist who claims tunnel bombing is England's act to try and cut ties with France. Necessarius tries to use magic to interfere the hijack but is interrupted by unknown source from Scotland. Index gets attacked by him and Touma gets pissed, corners the guy and beat the crap out of him along with the other guy.

Once they're there, Kanzaki picks them up via helicopter and heads straight to Buckingham Palace. It turns out the queen herself was the one who called Index. There he's introduced to the royal family and gets a lecture on Cartena(sp?) carried by the queen. It's a sword that grants power of an angel to royalty, but the original has been lost for centuries and what the queen was carrying is a copy of original. After the talk they send Index to investigate the tunnel with the knights and princesses. Touma is asked to stay out of it because they don't want him to break anything. They also find out that the group called New Light was the one who interrupted Necessarius's spell and they're headed to London with some kind of luggage. New Light interfered because if the spell wasn't interrupted, the plane would've landed on the road connecting London and Scotland, which would've delayed their travel. Touma tags along Oriana to help her capture the New Light.

Lessa from New Light makes a mistake and gets tracked down. She is spotted by Touma and Oriana while on the run. They fight but she manages to get away and they continue the chase. Itsuwa and Kanzaki manages to capture two of the New Light. The suitcases New Light was carrying allows one to send its contents from one suitcase to another in an instant. When Touma and Oriana corners Lessa, she says that New Light was only here as means of transportation and sends the contents of her suitcase to their client. She gets shot to be silenced right after, but Touma manages to pull Lessa away in time to save her life. Oriana recognizes the weapon used to attack Lessa. It was a weapon used by the knights of England.

New Light was carrying the original Cartena recently excavated, and their mission was to bring it to 2nd princess Carissa. Carissa starts a coup right after Index confirmed that the French magic was behind euro tunnel bombing and takes her custody. She orders the knights to take over all the major facilities throughout England. Battle between knights and mages erupts all over, but with the Carissa's blessing knights subdue most of the Necessarius. Necessarius drops the fight because they're outnumbered to begin with, and goes into hiding. Carissa's reason for coup was that if the war between Academy City and Roman Catholics did happen England will be either wiped out by Romans or become Academy City's bitch. England need to act now if it was to avoid that and become its own nation as well as the head figure of Europe. Her next move was to kill rest of the royalty so that no one else can use the Cartena. She chases after one of her sisters, Vileinne(sp?), who managed to get away during the confusion. Kanzaki tries stop them but she's taken down by Knight Leader. Carissa catches up and gives order to Knight Leader to kill Vileinne, but Aqua comes in and saves the day.

The queen and Archbishop was captured by knight but managed to get away. Touma and Oriana splits, Oriana staying to help out Sherry who's fighting against the knights, and Touma has to look for someone to cure Lessa. He makes it to the Necessarius girl's dorm and leaves Lessa under Ursula's care. Now he has to help nuns get away from knights and go rescue Index, volume ends.

credit: bob4000

2010-03-18, 07:23	Link #2282
LastResolve Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: athens	just because accelarator is a phycho doesnt mean he raped the sisters lol __________________

2010-03-18, 08:11	Link #2283
MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	Dude not funny. Even if he didn't raped them, he found pleasure in hurting them very painfully in many ways before killing them. Accelerator is a sadist and enjoy what he did to the Sisters. It was only after meeting Last Order that he realizes how horrible of a monster he was as he always thought of the Sisters as his playthings not humans with feelings. __________________

2010-03-18, 08:34	Link #2284
Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	I think it's slightly more complicating than that. If Last Order's theory is true, then all this time throughout the entire experiment he was trying to scare off the Sisters, meaning that to a tiny degree, he didn't want to continue. __________________ Devil Trigger , Subhuman , Crimson Cloud , Mad Qualia

2010-03-18, 09:53	Link #2289
Seihai スマイリウム Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Iwakawa Base Age: 31	says with serious yet calm voice "This is Academy City. A city occupied by 2.3 million students. Nothing that happens here is a surprise." __________________

2010-03-18, 09:55	Link #2290
Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	It does make me wonder what would be his feelings towards to original Misaka Mikoto? Guilt? Indeference? Or would he associate her as one of them? __________________ Devil Trigger , Subhuman , Crimson Cloud , Mad Qualia

2010-03-18, 10:15	Link #2291
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	maybe the same feelings he have for LO. its the original to begin with. Though I think he much sympathize more the one being experiment with because he kinda understand it.

2010-03-18, 11:49	Link #2292
Seihai スマイリウム Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Iwakawa Base Age: 31	I'm still hoping for the moment when Accelerator saves Mikoto in some way. Then we'll see.lol __________________

2010-03-18, 15:07	Link #2295
Miraluka Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Age: 34	Baka Tsuki has got updated the translations

2010-03-19, 00:09	Link #2296
Hell_ping 一刀繚乱 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: アッバス Age: 33	Adding on to what Wilfriback said, Vol 9 Chp 1 done __________________ I can still proceed on without reason.

2010-03-19, 00:34	Link #2298
Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	Indeed, volume 9-10 have rather detailed explainations of the workings of magic, given Oriana's style, so alot of information just flew pass me- I'm only able to catch some of it like Stiyl's step-by-step instruction of how rune magic works. Hopefully with your translations I could fill in the gaps. That said though, Touma's classroom antics are excellent And their very first event got my laughing at Mikoto's reaction __________________ Devil Trigger , Subhuman , Crimson Cloud , Mad Qualia

2010-03-19, 02:24	Link #2300
Lummie Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009	Found something to share with you guys Spoiler for Summary vol.17: Euro tunnel which connects England and France gets bombed. England is having hard time getting import goods thanks to tunnel shutting down as a result. Tsuchimikado asks Touma to go to Britain as Index's guardian, because there seems to be some sort of magic organization at work here, and they need Index's help. Before Touma could say anything sleeping gas grenade is thrown in from next door. When Touma comes to he's already at the airport. Tsuchimikado got a ride ready for him (monster airplane they used to get back from Italy), but Touma and Index decides to use a regular airplane instead, leaving their cat to travel by himself on the super airplane. (which Itsuwa came to pick up) They use inter connective flight headed to Scotland and than to London since direct flights were sold out. During the ride the airplane is about to be hijacked by French extremist who claims tunnel bombing is England's act to try and cut ties with France. Necessarius tries to use magic to interfere the hijack but is interrupted by unknown source from Scotland. Index gets attacked by him and Touma gets pissed, corners the guy and beat the crap out of him along with the other guy. Once they're there, Kanzaki picks them up via helicopter and heads straight to Buckingham Palace. It turns out the queen herself was the one who called Index. There he's introduced to the royal family and gets a lecture on Cartena(sp?) carried by the queen. It's a sword that grants power of an angel to royalty, but the original has been lost for centuries and what the queen was carrying is a copy of original. After the talk they send Index to investigate the tunnel with the knights and princesses. Touma is asked to stay out of it because they don't want him to break anything. They also find out that the group called New Light was the one who interrupted Necessarius's spell and they're headed to London with some kind of luggage. New Light interfered because if the spell wasn't interrupted, the plane would've landed on the road connecting London and Scotland, which would've delayed their travel. Touma tags along Oriana to help her capture the New Light. Lessa from New Light makes a mistake and gets tracked down. She is spotted by Touma and Oriana while on the run. They fight but she manages to get away and they continue the chase. Itsuwa and Kanzaki manages to capture two of the New Light. The suitcases New Light was carrying allows one to send its contents from one suitcase to another in an instant. When Touma and Oriana corners Lessa, she says that New Light was only here as means of transportation and sends the contents of her suitcase to their client. She gets shot to be silenced right after, but Touma manages to pull Lessa away in time to save her life. Oriana recognizes the weapon used to attack Lessa. It was a weapon used by the knights of England. New Light was carrying the original Cartena recently excavated, and their mission was to bring it to 2nd princess Carissa. Carissa starts a coup right after Index confirmed that the French magic was behind euro tunnel bombing and takes her custody. She orders the knights to take over all the major facilities throughout England. Battle between knights and mages erupts all over, but with the Carissa's blessing knights subdue most of the Necessarius. Necessarius drops the fight because they're outnumbered to begin with, and goes into hiding. Carissa's reason for coup was that if the war between Academy City and Roman Catholics did happen England will be either wiped out by Romans or become Academy City's bitch. England need to act now if it was to avoid that and become its own nation as well as the head figure of Europe. Her next move was to kill rest of the royalty so that no one else can use the Cartena. She chases after one of her sisters, Vileinne(sp?), who managed to get away during the confusion. Kanzaki tries stop them but she's taken down by Knight Leader. Carissa catches up and gives order to Knight Leader to kill Vileinne, but Aqua comes in and saves the day. The queen and Archbishop was captured by knight but managed to get away. Touma and Oriana splits, Oriana staying to help out Sherry who's fighting against the knights, and Touma has to look for someone to cure Lessa. He makes it to the Necessarius girl's dorm and leaves Lessa under Ursula's care. Now he has to help nuns get away from knights and go rescue Index, volume ends. credit: bob4000 Last edited by Lummie; 2010-03-19 at 02:56. Reason: Correcting typo