Doom 4

[Random Wanderer]

I've only just started, but it seems fine to me. I'ma shootin demons. And it feels much less like System Shock than Doom 3 did. Admittedly, I actually liked Doom 3, but I readily acknowledge that it had a pretty different atmosphere than the original.

[Random Wanderer]

Guys! Guys! You should check this out. This is a GAME.

It's actually really fun. Of course, just like the original Doom, if you want to find the coolest stuff fastest, you're going to have to spend some time searching for secrets. Which in this game is less about doors that look just like pieces of wall, and more often about areas that you can't easily see, above or below you on the map. Verticality often plays a big part in how things are hidden in this game.

But it's good. I think I've found every weapon short of the BFG, and I'm both kicking butt, and finding that the game is capable of throwing situations at me that will kick mine in return.

There's some cool stuff to the story, too. Not just the generic blah blah blah experiments opened up hell portal eveyone dies here are demons stuff, but there's some cool stuff about the space marine.

Spoiler for Really, you guys should find this out for yourselves, it's actually pretty cool.:

He isn't just "a" space marine who happened to get dragged into this. He's "the" space marine. He's The Doom Guy. Apparently after obliterating their invasion, killing their leader, and smashing most of hell, he stayed on and continued to wipe out any attempts they made to invade the real world so thoroughly that they were never able to come back, and they could never kill him. Even when they finally overwhelmed him, all they could do was seal him away, locking him in stasis in a tomb with their most powerful wards to try to make sure he could never wake up again.

[Rising Dragon]

So, basically... the ending from Doom 64.

[Random Wanderer]

I never played Doom 64, so I couldn't say. But folks elsewhere have been noting that this game takes inspiration from and makes shout-outs to a bunch of "classic" pieces of Doom media, so I wouldn't be surprised.

[barcode120x]

Watch'ed LCG's YT video on some of the singe player and it looks freaking amazing, both visuals and sound. I'd pick this game up...but later in the year when it's on sale

[Kyero Fox]

All I had to see was the Intro Elevator Title Screen to be sold on this.

So boss.

Dun Dun Dun, Dun Dun, -shotgun-

[Random Wanderer]

Random gameplay detail: something that it took me way too long to figure out is that certain weapons share the same ammo pool. Shotgun and super-shotgun (that's actually pretty reasonable, and people would probably thow out minor complaints if it had been possible for one to run out and not use the other's ammo), plasma rifle and guass cannon (well... ok, I guess. They both are charged by future-tech energy cells, so who am I to say that they aren't the same energy cells?), and heavy assault rifle and chaingun (I realize both of these use bullets, but... I would not expect them to in any way be the same bullets or be fed in the same way, or anything).

Basically what this means is you have to be careful using some of the weapons that are better for small-to-mid-level threats, because if you waste too much of their ammo there, you won't have ammo in your heavy guns to take out the big threats quickly when they show up. And you want to take out things quickly: you cannot tank damage in this game. You don't want to have to be dodging back and forth, pecking away at a Baron of Hell with your shotgun, because A: that could take all day, B: those things move now, and it will kick your butt up down and sideways while you're trying that, and C: you'll use practically all your shotgun ammo just taking down one.

Keep your chainsaw fueled up for these situations: take down two enemies of any type with it and you'll get enough ammo to completely refill your supplies. ...Except for BFG ammo. Nobody drops BFG ammo. That is only available in finite amounts found in specific places in the world.

[Rising Dragon]

IIRC, that's how it's always been in the Doom games. Shotgun and Super Shotgun shared ammo, Plasma Rifle and BFG shared ammo, etc..

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

IIRC, that's how it's always been in the Doom games. Shotgun and Super Shotgun shared ammo, Plasma Rifle and BFG shared ammo, etc..

Yep. I'd just forgotten. It's been years, and I don't play FPS's that much any more.

[Firefly00]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

There's some cool stuff to the story, too. Not just the generic blah blah blah experiments opened up hell portal eveyone dies here are demons stuff, but there's some cool stuff about the space marine...

Okay, so...

Spoiler:

... to the demons, you are the Sealed Evil in a Can? That's an interesting application of the trope.

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

...plasma rifle and guass cannon (well... ok, I guess. They both are charged by future-tech energy cells, so who am I to say that they aren't the same energy cells?)...

We might have a case of poor naming here: 'gauss guns' are in fact advanced slugthrowers which use magnetic acceleration instead of chemicals for propulsion (in the Halo universe, this explains their common alias of 'MAC'). The weapon under discussion here is not one, however.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Firefly00

Okay, so...

Spoiler:

... to the demons, you are the Sealed Evil in a Can? That's an interesting application of the trope.

Someone on Tumblr who was requoted on TVTropes put it pretty well:

Spoiler:

Demons have whole scriptures and runes etched with stories of the “Doom Slayer” and his rampage through Hell before they could even manage to seal him and put him to sleep. Like we are talking absolute bloodbath that made every Demon tremble. When this game happens, you are the ancient evil in that whole “An Ancient Evil has awoken” trope.

We might have a case of poor naming here: 'gauss guns' are in fact advanced slugthrowers which use magnetic acceleration instead of chemicals for propulsion (in the Halo universe, this explains their common alias of 'MAC'). The weapon under discussion here is not one, however.

It accelerates steel flachettes through a magnetized chamber, according to the codex. I assume the energy is to charge the electromagnets. Also, the more powerful alternate fire mode allows it to fire a beam of plasma.

Don't question it, man, it's a big gun. Siege mode lets you one-shot hell knights and revenants and cacodemons (and friggin pinkies!), and one or two-shot mancubi and barons of hell.

Oh, watch out for the damned pinky demons. Some lunatic let them grow an armored carapace on their front, so it's almost impossible to kill them when they're facing you now. You'd got to play matador, and shoot them in the back when they run past. Now try doing that when there are 20 other demons around attacking you at the same time...

[Firefly00]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

It accelerates steel flachettes through a magnetized chamber, according to the codex. I assume the energy is to charge the electromagnets. Also, the more powerful alternate fire mode allows it to fire a beam of plasma.

Okay, I was wrong. Now, seeing as it is a genuine gauss gun, I have one question: shouldn't you have to be looking for its ammo packs as well as the energy cells?

Spoiler for Terminology discussion follows:

Given its role as a powerful point-target weapon, this gauss gun almost certainly uses slugs or sabots (an example of the latter would be MBTs' APFSDS rounds). Note: infantry-scaled sabot rounds are confusingly referred to as flechettes, whether they come as single large penetrators, or bundles of smaller ones (some 12-gauge shells are examples of the latter); the term is far more commonly applied to the multiple small penetrators which are the payload of 'beehive' rounds (the USMC's Ontos minitanks put them to such effective use that the NVA actively avoided them).

Oh, watch out for the damned pinky demons. Some lunatic let them grow an armored carapace on their front, so it's almost impossible to kill them when they're facing you now.

Oh yes. It appears that the demons have gotten a touch of Genre Savviness...

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by Firefly00

Okay, I was wrong. Now, seeing as it is a genuine gauss gun, I have one question: shouldn't you have to be looking for its ammo packs as well as the energy cells?

You know it's going to be rather cumbersome to make a weapon need TWO ammo types just to shoot its primary fire mode. Most railguns in FPS games only need either ammo or energy (which functionally work identically anyway), but never both.

[Brother Coa]

IGN just gave DOOM 7.1

They also give Call of Duty 9....

[SineMora]

Originally Posted by Brother Coa

IGN just gave DOOM 7.1

They also give Call of Duty 9....

Okay so no IGN: Too much water jokes?

[Kyero Fox]

Basicly 7.1/10 "Not CoD Enough and We got no Free Copy and Money to review it good for them"

[MeoTwister5]

As someone who played Doom before knowing what Breasts were... will typing iddqd give me god mode?

Also is this game worth the $60?

[Velsy]

Yous haven't figured out how reviews work with those larger companies like IGN and Gamespot ? basically the more they get paid, the higher the review. Doesnt matter the game, long as its not terrible or so

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

As someone who played Doom before knowing what Breasts were... will typing iddqd give me god mode?

Also is this game worth the $60?

IDDQD has not worked, although both it and IDKFA are the names of two of the acheivements, along with IPXSETUP.EXE. I'm told you can activate god mode by typing "god" into the developer console, but I haven't gotten around to trying it yet. Once you beat a mission you can go back to it with mission select, bringing with you all the new weapons and upgrades you've found since (basically like a new game plus), so I'm running through trying to find the secrets I didn't get the first time.

As for whether it's worth it... it was worth it to me. It depends on what you're looking for, but this feels much like Doom in the sense of the original games. You wake up chained to a stone sarcophagus that's covered in demonic runes, in a room with several possessed zombies-types shambling towards you; you break free of the chains, grab the head of the nearest one and smash it against the stone, pick up a gun that's fallen nearby and shoot the rest. Head into the next room to find your armor. Flip off the weird man with the creepy robot voice telling you "we can work together to resolve this situation" because fuck him, you're just here to shoot things; go find a shotgun, and start killing demons.

There's a story here and a codex with interesting information, both of which are kind of cool, but you don't need to pay attention to any of it if you don't want to. You can just kill everything and hunt for secret areas until there aren't any more, then follow the waypoint indicator and activate whatever it points to. Then rinse/repeat. You know, it's Doom. Apply guns to demons until they're well-done. It feels pretty visceral and satisfying, and the guns are all pretty fun to use. Level design looks good. Monster design is quite effective, and they're smarter than they used to be. Don't ever stand still unless you like getting a face full of fireballs, plasma blasts, and having a hell knight smash you into paste.

Personally, I'd say if you're looking for an FPS that gives you a good mix of old school Doom's atmosphere brought to life with modern technology, this is probably the best you could have asked for.

[endarion88]

question

i never used steam, basicaly made an account only for this game, now i have a problem:

internet on my home is really slow (like post war slow) with this steam thing, can i log in with my account and download the game at a friend house then copy paste the steamlibrary folder back at my home? would it work?

i purcased the game in retail with the hope that there wouldn't be much to download but it failed me