School Rumble manga (raw discussion only)

[wontaek]

I think Hanai will gladly help Asou and Mikoto get together again if anyone ask him to.

[taichikun14]

i dunno about the asou and mikoto getting back together thing... i mean, i really like the couple, but mikoto just never really seemed into the relationship. like, she never seemed to really show interest... i dunno why though, cuz asou seems like a really cool guy. but ah well i guess we'll see how it goes. i doubt the hanai-mikoto thing since they are pretty brother-sisterly...and hanai is completely obsessed with yakumo... ^_^

[wontaek]

I can say with great certainty that Hanai will loss his obsession with Yakumo before he graduates from college. Hanai is aiming for T University, which is bit high, even for Yakumo. Only 2 other can join him there and their names are Yuuki and Akira. As the Korean saying goes, the lucky gets the fair, and since Hanai has no luck with Yakumo, he won't get her.

[taichikun14]

Originally Posted by The Small One

That's simple to explain: Yakumo is the only serious character in the whole series. All the others (even Hanai) aren't completely serious, but also have their unreasonable/hilarious moments.

Sara and Asou are pretty serious, too...

[ichigoismyhomie]

but school rumble isn't about serious stuffs.....its about comedy, love, and lots of misunderstanding.

[taichikun14]

Originally Posted by ichigoismyhomie

but school rumble isn't about serious stuffs.....its about comedy, love, and lots of misunderstanding.

true. i too tend to forget that every now and then. but it's so hard to resist wanting it to be serious! KJ's always teasing us with these serious moments here and there...

[Owaranai Destiny]

Originally Posted by ichigoismyhomie

but school rumble isn't about serious stuffs.....its about comedy, love, and lots of misunderstanding.

It certainly doesn't have an inherently serious theme, but a bit of it here and there would serve to do it justice on the whole. Put it this way: You can't have humor all the way and ignore other things. That being said, SR has done a pretty decent job of mixing humor with romance.

[wontaek]

Originally Posted by Owaranai Destiny

It certainly doesn't have an inherently serious theme, but a bit of it here and there would serve to do it justice on the whole. Put it this way: You can't have humor all the way and ignore other things. That being said, SR has done a pretty decent job of mixing humor with romance.

The problem is, no complicated web of love relationship can be un-entangled without making half of the people crying over their broken heart. I believe we are long overdue for some resolutions.

[Azuma Denton]

Btw, yesterday is Tenma's BD n today is Harima's BD...
Just realized this morning..

[taichikun14]

Originally Posted by Azuma Denton

Btw, yesterday is Tenma's BD n today is Harima's BD...
Just realized this morning..

OH shnaps you're right!!! I'll watch their birthday episodes to "celebrate"!! :P The episode where Harima treated Tenma and Tenma's bday party are two of my favorite episodes anyways Happy Birthday Tenma and Harima!!!

[hi no ken Jebus]

And for the next one...

Spoiler for 204:

Yakumo gets a bunch of shrimps from a fish store so Tenma decides to throw a shrimp party and invites sawachika. However sawachika doesn't like shrimp and refuses. She thinks to herself that she needs to find a common point with Harima but can't think of any. Meanwhile Harima is dead tired from trying to come up with a name for his manga. Yoshidayama starts talking to him about some shrimps he just ate.

Harima gets angry and hits him saying he hates shrimps, and sawachika overhears him. She thinks likes and dislikes is her common point and starts talking to him about it. Harima starts going off on a tangent about how he hates it, people who eat it are aliens, and government conspiracies involving America. As he continues sawachika asks him how does he feel about shell fish. He says they are good and she invites him to the opening of an oyster bar of an acquaintance of hers. Harima has reached his fatigue limit and starts imagining a shrimp asking him why does he hate them if he never ate one. The shrimp convinces him and they shake on it, which makes Harima angry again. He then unknowingly agrees to the invitation which surprises her.

Next day Tenma invites him to her party, Harima thinks to himself that she's alien then says that's okay he's tired of girls from Earth anyway. He agrees to go while sawachika looks on. Later she asks Tenma if she can still go to the party, and Tenma says it's fine because there's lots of food which ends the chapter.

[Owaranai Destiny]

Just as you would expect from SR- yet another goddamned misunderstanding on Eri's part, and at least it's plainly obvious that Harima has more or less harbour less feelings of "animosity" towards her already. As long as it's more Tenma, he sure is quick to change his mindset immediately.

[Swampstorm]

Sounds promising. Now that the past few chapters seem to be following a consistant pattern, it's becoming easier to see the direction that the story is taking. This chapter shares a common thread with the last two in that Eri once again observes clues about Harima's interest in Tenma. This time around, it's through observing Harima being inconsistant in his preferences for food. This new Oudou conflict seems to be shaping up very much like the earlier ones with Pencil, Marker, and Onigiri. While it's unfortunate to see Flag setbacks, it feels comfortable to be back on well travelled ground.

Originally Posted by Owaranai Destiny

Just as you would expect from SR- yet another goddamned misunderstanding on Eri's part, and at least it's plainly obvious that Harima has more or less harbour less feelings of "animosity" towards her already. As long as it's more Tenma, he sure is quick to change his mindset immediately.

For starters, there really is no misunderstanding on Eri's part. Eri asked Harima a question, and he answered in the affirmative. Here's a tip on effective communication:

As a rule of thumb, don't assume that the person who you are talking to will recognize that your answers are actually directed to an imaginary shrimp instead of to the person who you're having the conversation with.

I'm much more curious, however, to know where you got your next point from. While Flag has faced some obstacles over the past three chapters, we haven't really seen any animosity from Harima towards Eri. For that matter, just before the Oudou conflict started up, Harima was starting to discover that Eri's company is a lot of fun. Chances are, you've either misread the section on Harima and Yoshidayama's interactions, or you've been muddled by some of the rhetoric that's been tossed around here recently. I suppose it's best to fix up the latter, just in case.

Originally Posted by wontaek

Harima believes that Eri hates his guts. As I have repeatedly said, they bring out the worst in each other. Only way I can see Harima warming up to Eri more than now would be for some outsiders like Akira to make Harima realize that Eri is making fool out of herself for she is infatuated with Harima. ( By the way, I think Akira is capable of doing almost anything ) As long as Harima firmly believes that Eri is out to hurt or humiliate him, there can be no meaningful progress in their relationship.

(Re)read chapter 198/199. These relationships aren't frozen in time - Eri and Harima have changed the way in which they relate to each other throughout the series, as they both grew and matured. They're working out their differences fairly well, as of late.

Oh, and could you tell me what Harima and Eri's "worst qualities" are, without taking your personal system of values into account? It seems to me that we could claim that any single one of Harima's relationships is capable of bringing out the "worst" in him, depending on the qualities that we (arbitrarily) choose to condemn. For that matter, if Harima and Eri weren't in each other's company, would those so called "vices" simply disappear?

You've got a nice catchphrase there, but it doesn't actually tell us anything.

Originally Posted by wontaek

The problem is, no complicated web of love relationship can be un-entangled without making half of the people crying over their broken heart. I believe we are long overdue for some resolutions.

You'd be absolutely right, if we were talking about real relationships. Given that this is a story, and a comedy at that, the rules change somewhat. Tone is very important in a comedy, and you'll have a much harder time getting people to laugh if they're convinced that half of the cast is broken hearted by the ending. Simply put, in a comedy, the burden of proof is on the author to convince the reader that the ending that took place was the happiest possible one.

Remember that in a story, the author chooses which events you get to see. You mentioned earlier that Hanai's chances of getting together with Yakumo are very slim. The reason for this, however, is not because Hanai is unlucky by nature. Rather, Hanai's lack of success is tied in to the fact that his suffering is always presented in a comical manner. This isn't to say that Hanai isn't hurt - but the way in which he is presented to the reader affects the extent to which he/she is concerned with Hanai's welfare. Harima's situation with Tenma (which happens to be parallel to Hanai x Yakumo) is another example of this sort of phenomenon. So while certain characters may not end up with the person who they wanted to, you can still be persuaded that the ending is "positive" if the author successfully dismisses the plights of some of the characters by using humor.

From another angle, consider that some scenes seem to be especially designed to draw sympathy towards certain characters. In Ch. 203, for example, does anyone find it unusual that Eri chose to compete with Tenma in the only thing that she was guaranteed to lose to Tenma in? For that matter, it seems oddly reminiscent of the days where Eri used to lose to Yakumo every time that those two competed. If those situations were ever reversed so that Eri won, you would feel less compelled to have the same sort of sympathy for her - she would lose that underdog appeal.

With regards to Harima's personality - even if he is supposed to change his views towards Eri in the future, he cannot make that sort of change before the final conflict in the story takes place. One of the most important ingredients in this story is suspense. You already know who Eri likes. If you know that her feelings are reciprocated, or if you see the author clearly pushing things in that direction, then that element of suspense will be lost. That being said, a number of events, such as Harima's change in attitude during the night at Eri's house, or his mixed feelings towards her during the temple scene in the Omiai arc make it so that were such a change to take place in the future, it wouldn't seem out of character.

It's a pretty good setup, overall. The only thing further that I could hope for is that they pull in that loose end from Ch.181 as the story draws to a climax.

[ichigoismyhomie]

go go eri....

[Owaranai Destiny]

Originally Posted by Swampstorm

For starters, there really is no misunderstanding on Eri's part. Eri asked Harima a question, and he answered in the affirmative. Here's a tip on effective communication:

As a rule of thumb, don't assume that the person who you are talking to will recognize that your answers are actually directed to an imaginary shrimp instead of to the person who you're having the conversation with.

Perhaps...It's easier to see it that way and link her talking to be actually part of the reason why he 'reached his fatigue limit'.

I'm much more curious, however, to know where you got your next point from. While Flag has faced some obstacles over the past three chapters, we haven't really seen any animosity from Harima towards Eri. For that matter, just before the Oudou conflict started up, Harima was starting to discover that Eri's company is a lot of fun.

First of all, I was talking about the consistent past chapters in which both Harima and Eri have 'encountered' each other. I wasn't looking at it on a short-term basis...Exactly why I also feel that its more obvious now that Harima is finally starting on a route where he does not believe Eri to be a complete meddler of his life. Good for development, surely. Hell, I still like Onigiri more, but there's little evidence of it in the past few chapters which would make them the 'more obvious choice' of pairings...If either Oudou or Flag actually succeed in the end, that is.

[executioner465]

hi i just wna ask how often do they release new school rumble manga each week or month

[xris]

Originally Posted by executioner465

hi i just wna ask how often do they release new school rumble manga each week or month

If you look back at the last couple of pages in this thread, you will see that people (such as hi no ken Jebus) post a chapter summary every week. That should give you a good clue that a chapter is released every week.

[executioner465]

thx sry for the trouble.....

[wontaek]

I think we need to think the question in the other direction.

1. For Eri's sake, do you think Harima is a good guy for her or would she be more likely to be better off we some other random character? My suspicion is that she might find her life more enjoyable and productive we an average guy instead of Harima, whose is unique in many ways. Harima makes Eri embarass herself, not neccessary in good way, and prone to making her very angry, again not really a good thing. What he offers is a good experience for the young, but I would hesitate recommending building long lasting stable relationship based on that, so that is why I think it is better for Eri to not worry about 'boyfriend' thing until she goes to college. She would have plenty of time to worry about it, then, and by that time, She and Harima might have sufficiently changed for the better.

2. For Tenma's sake, who is the best guy for her? Although Harima do cares for her a lot, we shouldn't underestimate what goes on below the calm face of Karasuma. Karasuma offers much needed emotional stability to Tenma. Harima is very likely to create various turmoils with anyone around him; this is not neccessary bad for characters that needs to be shaken up, though. For her sake, and the sake of everyone around them, I hope Karasuma proposes to her before they graduate from high school.

3. For Yakumo's sake, who will be the best guy for her? In a sense, I think Harima had finished his job helping Yakumo grow. Unless there is drastic changes with Harima, there isn't much he can make Yakumo grow, so that may be the reason we seldom see Yakumo anymore. In contrast, Harima still is capable of inducing more changes in Eri, so we are going to see Eri more. Although Harima respects Yakumo, a rare thing for Harima who probably doesn't respect Tenma very much, Yakumo and Harima would gain much by becoming more mature and knowledgeable before engaging in any serious relationship. That is why I would recommend Yakumo to not worry about boys until her college days, similar to Eri. Although she is different from Eri, she also has rooms to grow so Eri, Yakumo, and Harima would benefit from more growth in solitude.

4. Mikoto: Asou AND Hanai is a good fit for her, in slight different ways. She is already a big girl, in some ways, so she should be fine unless something weird happens.

5. Akira: She doesn't need someone as her boyfriend, but if she desires one, Hanai seems to be best. Why she should want Hanai is a reason that's beyond me.

6. Yuuki: She likes Hanai, and Hanai isn't a bad fit for her. Whether it is Hanai or the Cameraman, she should be fine.

7. Karen: Imadori is not a good guy for her, yet. He has shown some good developements since he met Karen, so I am postponing any judgement.

[ichigoismyhomie]

i can't help it to answer these questions.....

1. i think harima is perfect match for all three of them (eri, tenma, yakumo). He is able to brought up the best out of yakumo and eri, and connected with tenma in lots of different things. The thing is, these girls need to overcome their own problem to make things work with harima (and so does harima). Yakumo need to be more assertive instead letting tenma get harima. She knows she like harima, but her "loyalty" to tenma just kill the whole mood. Eri is DEFINITELY love harima. In the beginning, her pride and ego are the things that keeping her away. but she's been working on these issues, slowly but sure. She learned to grow up and how to deal with romance. As for tenma, she connects so easily with harima is so many different ways. from the samurai tv show to the shrimp thing, they got lots of things in common.

4. mikoto is a big girl......(i'm pretty sure she is.......**D cup**), well she needs to make her mind with asou. I think they're the only normal couple in SR

5. akira....i don't think hanai is a good match for her. earlier in the series, she hates hanai's guts. I think togou is a better match for her. I remember akira along so well with him when togou throw the new year at his place.

6. yuuki.......i think she should go out with nishimoto......just for the heck of it

7. karen.....imadori showing some maturit