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Aaerul · 2009-02-09, 05:24

The question is,
Are Famitsu still a reputable source for game reviews?

All Famitsu scores here
http://fs.finalfantasytr.com/

From a number of forums that I go around, I've developed my own views for Famitsu and I would like to hear yours. I wish I can read Japanese so I can hear how 2chan boarders' view their most respected news magazine.

So what do you think? In these past years Famitsu have given some questionable review scores, especially when concerned with Square-enix published games.

Duo Maxwell · 2009-02-09, 10:00

Aside from RPG section, I found that their reviews are always reasonable.

They may be exaggerated about FFXII a bit, but I think that game deserve high score, just not that high.

rg4619 · 2009-02-09, 12:31

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In these past years Famitsu have given some questionable review scores

Eh? They've never been a particularly "reliable" review source to take to heart.

As for the scores, RPGs generally tend to do a bit better than expected (and Square Enix happens to release many of them), largely because it's such a prominent genre for the industry.

Kusa-San · 2009-02-09, 12:48

Famitsu is known to be a magazine very influencable when it comes to notes. How to say that, it's depends at how much money the editor give to Famitsu...You don't read Famitsu for the notes but for the article.

Shadow Kira01 · 2009-02-09, 17:49

Famitsu is the best when it comes to games!!!

However, it doesn't really influence what games I buy or play though. Their score system is good. There is nothing wrong with Famitsu's scores for Square-Enix games. Square-Enix games are quite good in most cases. Actually, Square-Enix used to be my favorite game company until more recently; its now second to Atlus.

2H-Dragon · 2009-02-09, 18:16

So The Last Remnant(38) and Blue Dragon(37) vs Lost Odyssey(36) and ToV(35). DOA 4(39) vs SC4(35). Their pro evo compared to fifa scores are questionable too. It's a bullshit mag when it comes to scores. >_>

Though every gaming website became bullshit in my eyes after giving GTA IV 10's. <_<

Shinndou · 2009-02-09, 18:34

Their scores are sometimes are incomprehensible (9 for Haze? What the...), but if you read their reviews most of the times they nail down the major pros and cons of a game (like in Last Remnant's case, or like in White Knight Chronicles' one). The score depends on how much they value both cons and pros. In Last Remnant's case all the technical glitches were considered pretty almost irrelevant and they rated it that high because of nice battle system it has. Which is also why they rated WKC not so high (which has a pretty much not-so-great battle system).

Sides · 2009-02-09, 20:15

Famitsu and other magazines are only good for the lastest information and scans. Reviews are so-so, because it is alway subjective and the taste of the reviewer always determines the outcome/score. Apart from just looking at the numbers, the review itself, texts content, are interesting and important. Without reading the text the numbers don't mean anything. So i never got the point why websites just put up numbers without a summary from the reviewer.

DragoonKain3 · 2009-02-09, 22:30

Apart from what other people have brought up already, do note that Famitsu writes for the Japanese audience.

So the question becomes... how does your taste line up with the typical Japanese player? For the vast majority of western gamers, it won't line up at all, and thus looks like their scores are BS.

As an analogy, it would be like a typical Japanese player looking at a western magazine, seeing perfect scores for a game like say, Halo 3, and think that while it might be a great game, it's far from perfect.

TrueKnight · 2009-02-09, 22:52

Well Famitsu gave a 10/10/9/9 for both Call of Duty 4 and Fallout 3, which made perfect sense imo and I appreciate them for that. So yeah they do appreciate some of the western gems albeit mainstream. What I don't agree are their reviews when it comes for Squeenix stuffs especially the recently technically glitched Last Remnant.

AnimeFangirl · 2009-02-10, 03:56

Ever since they gave FFX 39/40 their reviews have been suspect to me. Giving FFXII 40/40 only sank their reputation even further. Seriously, did they actually PLAY that game? All the way through?

Shadow Kira01 · 2009-02-10, 12:14

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Originally Posted by Dorfl

Ever since they gave FFX 39/40 their reviews have been suspect to me. Giving FFXII 40/40 only sank their reputation even further. Seriously, did they actually PLAY that game? All the way through?

What's wrong with Final Fantasy X? Personally, I would give FFX a 40/40, while FFXII should get 38/40. The game had non-customizable controls setting which is opposite to that of most games, even those from Square-Enix itself.

Giving Fallout 3 a 38/40 is strange, since the game isn't even good.

Spitfire · 2009-02-10, 12:39

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Originally Posted by Shadow Minato

Giving Fallout 3 a 38/40 is strange, since the game isn't even good.

Your the one that's strange if you ask me. Fallout 3 was amazing, and deserves a score such as that.

Kusa-San · 2009-02-10, 13:07

FFX is a very good FF and had very good score everywhere. Personnaly it's my fav FF. Anyway as I said in my previous post, Famitsu is not read for their scores but for their articles and their scoops.

Papaya · 2009-02-10, 13:54

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

Your the one that's strange if you ask me. Fallout 3 was amazing, and deserves a score such as that.

I think the majority of people who have played Fallout 3 think it's not very good. I base this on scouring the Gametrailers forums.

Kusa-San · 2009-02-10, 14:07

Well The biggest problem with Fallout 3, from what i've heard, it's that the game has nothing to do anymore with the previous version.

Spitfire · 2009-02-10, 14:11

Well whatever, I still happen to think Fallout 3 is an outstanding game, and one of the best I've played in years. Far better than any JRPG I've played recently.

kujoe · 2009-02-10, 15:38

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Originally Posted by Papaya

I think the majority of people who have played Fallout 3 think it's not very good. I base this on scouring the Gametrailers forums.

You shouldn't really base your assumptions on the Gametrailers forums.

It's a good game, albeit like Kusa-san said, it's not really like the Fallout of before. If you enjoyed the previous Fallout games, you will probably have a few mixed reactions regarding on what has been changed (i.e., everything).

That said, I still think it's a good game, deserving of the praises by the gaming community. It's not the same Fallout I remember, but it's better than what I had initially expected to be a Fallout mod of Oblivion.

Shadow Kira01 · 2009-02-10, 17:37

Based on the trailer, I think Fallout 3 is sort of like Fable 2, except that it is FPS yet at the same time it is also one of the better Western RPGs with awesome graphics.

Spoiler for trailer:

Personally, I have only played the original Xbox's Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel and I didn't find the game to be appealing at all. The only reason why I bought it was that the game only costed 3 bucks. The graphics aren't very good either.

Spoiler for gameplay footage:

Sides · 2009-02-10, 17:47

Fallout 3 is ok, really. You can play it in 3rd person or 1st, by switching the camera. Apart from that it is actually a good transition from the old isometric 2D game. The V.A.T.S system kind of feels like the old system transfered into 3D.
The first two games were developed by Black Isle Studios and you should be get it in a boxset under a tenner, and it runs virtually under any PC, it was a DOS game afterall.

2009-02-09, 05:24	Link #1
Aaerul Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009	Famitsu still reputable? The question is, Are Famitsu still a reputable source for game reviews? All Famitsu scores here http://fs.finalfantasytr.com/ From a number of forums that I go around, I've developed my own views for Famitsu and I would like to hear yours. I wish I can read Japanese so I can hear how 2chan boarders' view their most respected news magazine. So what do you think? In these past years Famitsu have given some questionable review scores, especially when concerned with Square-enix published games.

2009-02-09, 10:00	Link #2
Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	Aside from RPG section, I found that their reviews are always reasonable. They may be exaggerated about FFXII a bit, but I think that game deserve high score, just not that high. __________________

2009-02-09, 12:48	Link #4
Kusa-San I'll end it before April. Join Date: Jul 2008	Famitsu is known to be a magazine very influencable when it comes to notes. How to say that, it's depends at how much money the editor give to Famitsu...You don't read Famitsu for the notes but for the article. __________________

2009-02-10, 03:56	Link #11
AnimeFangirl Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The dog gossips too much.	Ever since they gave FFX 39/40 their reviews have been suspect to me. Giving FFXII 40/40 only sank their reputation even further. Seriously, did they actually PLAY that game? All the way through? __________________

2009-02-10, 13:07	Link #14
Kusa-San I'll end it before April. Join Date: Jul 2008	FFX is a very good FF and had very good score everywhere. Personnaly it's my fav FF. Anyway as I said in my previous post, Famitsu is not read for their scores but for their articles and their scoops. __________________ Last edited by Kusa-San; 2009-02-10 at 13:23.

2009-02-09, 17:49	Link #5
Shadow Kira01 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: PMB Headquarters	Famitsu is the best when it comes to games!!! However, it doesn't really influence what games I buy or play though. Their score system is good. There is nothing wrong with Famitsu's scores for Square-Enix games. Square-Enix games are quite good in most cases. Actually, Square-Enix used to be my favorite game company until more recently; its now second to Atlus.

2009-02-09, 18:16	Link #6
2H-Dragon Silent Warrior Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Netherlands Age: 38	So The Last Remnant(38) and Blue Dragon(37) vs Lost Odyssey(36) and ToV(35). DOA 4(39) vs SC4(35). Their pro evo compared to fifa scores are questionable too. It's a bullshit mag when it comes to scores. >_> Though every gaming website became bullshit in my eyes after giving GTA IV 10's. <_<

2009-02-09, 18:34	Link #7
Shinndou 魂を踊らすように Join Date: May 2006 Location: London, UK Age: 39	Their scores are sometimes are incomprehensible (9 for Haze? What the...), but if you read their reviews most of the times they nail down the major pros and cons of a game (like in Last Remnant's case, or like in White Knight Chronicles' one). The score depends on how much they value both cons and pros. In Last Remnant's case all the technical glitches were considered pretty almost irrelevant and they rated it that high because of nice battle system it has. Which is also why they rated WKC not so high (which has a pretty much not-so-great battle system).

2009-02-09, 20:15	Link #8
Sides Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edinburgh Age: 42	Famitsu and other magazines are only good for the lastest information and scans. Reviews are so-so, because it is alway subjective and the taste of the reviewer always determines the outcome/score. Apart from just looking at the numbers, the review itself, texts content, are interesting and important. Without reading the text the numbers don't mean anything. So i never got the point why websites just put up numbers without a summary from the reviewer.

2009-02-09, 22:30	Link #9
DragoonKain3 Osana-Najimi Shipper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Ordeals	Apart from what other people have brought up already, do note that Famitsu writes for the Japanese audience. So the question becomes... how does your taste line up with the typical Japanese player? For the vast majority of western gamers, it won't line up at all, and thus looks like their scores are BS. As an analogy, it would be like a typical Japanese player looking at a western magazine, seeing perfect scores for a game like say, Halo 3, and think that while it might be a great game, it's far from perfect.

2009-02-09, 22:52	Link #10
TrueKnight Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004	Well Famitsu gave a 10/10/9/9 for both Call of Duty 4 and Fallout 3, which made perfect sense imo and I appreciate them for that. So yeah they do appreciate some of the western gems albeit mainstream. What I don't agree are their reviews when it comes for Squeenix stuffs especially the recently technically glitched Last Remnant.

2009-02-10, 14:07	Link #16
Kusa-San I'll end it before April. Join Date: Jul 2008	Well The biggest problem with Fallout 3, from what i've heard, it's that the game has nothing to do anymore with the previous version. __________________ Last edited by Kusa-San; 2009-02-10 at 14:29.

2009-02-10, 14:11	Link #17
Spitfire Mr. Bushido Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Age: 35	Well whatever, I still happen to think Fallout 3 is an outstanding game, and one of the best I've played in years. Far better than any JRPG I've played recently. __________________

2009-02-10, 17:37	Link #19
Shadow Kira01 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: PMB Headquarters	Based on the trailer, I think Fallout 3 is sort of like Fable 2, except that it is FPS yet at the same time it is also one of the better Western RPGs with awesome graphics. Spoiler for trailer: <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYZpR51XgW0">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> Personally, I have only played the original Xbox's Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel and I didn't find the game to be appealing at all. The only reason why I bought it was that the game only costed 3 bucks. The graphics aren't very good either. Spoiler for gameplay footage: <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLwcrztpJao">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> Last edited by Shadow Kira01; 2009-02-10 at 17:48. Reason: a little clarification

2009-02-10, 17:47	Link #20
Sides Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edinburgh Age: 42	Fallout 3 is ok, really. You can play it in 3rd person or 1st, by switching the camera. Apart from that it is actually a good transition from the old isometric 2D game. The V.A.T.S system kind of feels like the old system transfered into 3D. The first two games were developed by Black Isle Studios and you should be get it in a boxset under a tenner, and it runs virtually under any PC, it was a DOS game afterall.