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it is my imagination or does game companies think their consumers are sheep?
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2012-03-30, 01:39 | Link #2 |
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In other words your console MUST be connected to the internet or have internet connection to play games?
This might run some smaller game shops that specialize in game trading out of business. Even gamestop/etc might be affected. Anything to kill piracy+2nd hand market I guess. |
2012-03-30, 01:55 | Link #5 |
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The death of gaming consoles would pretty much mean the death of the gaming industry itself. I'm sorry but I can't believe the PC alone will suffice at this point of time. I have serious doubts that such a thing will happen regardless though since video gaming has become such a mainstream activity since around the late 90's.
Anyway, don't have much to say on the topic of a new Sony console at the moment. If it's not a 100% legit reveal directly from Sony themselves then there's not much point in complaining or worrying about it right now. A news site like Kotaku claiming to have legitimately received that information from the source with no proof to back it up isn't entirely trustworthy.
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2012-03-30, 02:06 | Link #7 |
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Well, taking the rumours at face value, that's both PS and XBOX consoles now that are slated to be download only/anti-used game systems. The used game market makes up a fair large chunk of business for Gamestop, EB and the like. It might not kill them, but it will hurt them, it may mean an increase in retail price but that will be more or less controlled by whatever they end up charging via the download method (which will probably be the same as it is now, the jerkwads). They might refuse to stock physical copies of the game, but I really don't see how that would help their cause other then to isolate themselves.
Really though, if we're getting them straight from the publishers via PSN or whatever, the prices should be cheaper then they are now since they are cutting out the middleman to sell the things almost. Anyways, I'll believe it when I see it. If it did 'kill' Gamestop/EB/etc, could they take MS and Sony to court for hostile business practices or something?
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2012-03-30, 02:07 | Link #8 |
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All this really means is that the Wii U and PC will thrive, while the PS4 and Xbox Will simply lose business.... seeing as this basically removes renting games, lending them out, or even buying used copies anymore (basically).
My thoughts would be to another Gaming Depression, just like waaaay back in the day.
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2012-03-30, 02:13 | Link #10 | |
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And if focus reshifts to the PC, maybe developers will focus less on high-end graphics to increase their potential customer base? Who knows. There's a million solutions and consequences to this possible move, not all of them bad. A crashing and burning of consoles might wake up publishers that there's a limit to how far they can push their customers, and that they're rapdily crashing into it. |
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2012-03-30, 02:22 | Link #11 |
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The only thing that is legit in that article is that sony is using the codename Orbis for some kind of project. I do kind of wonder how game "journalist" can pull out so much jibber jabber from so little.
Sony have been doing DRM stuff for a long time, I mean they do have Sony DADC, so the usage of securom would not surprise me at all, if it is used in sony's next home console. Considering that console OS have become more sophisticated this gen, next gen could be hell for some consumers. That seeing how successful the vita is shifting games via PSN/SEN, I don't think sony needs to be bothered too much by game retailers, either stock it or don't, gamers will get to play the games either way. |
2012-03-30, 02:34 | Link #12 |
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It's just a rumor from Kotaku. But the money from used games doesn't go to developers to make more games. Revenue from anything bought used doesn't go to the original creators only the retailers.
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2012-03-30, 04:33 | Link #14 | |
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There wouldn't be a used game market if people didn't sell their games back to retailers after completing them. The actual problem is that games today are, for whatever reason, not considered worth keeping. |
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2012-03-30, 05:06 | Link #16 | |
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If it's because overadvertised overbudgeted games aren't selling as much as they need to, is there a problem with consumers, or a problem with the way games today are made? |
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Honestly, this whole situation was fine until Best Buy joined the used-game market. The industry should've struck before that happened and refused to sell their games to Gamestop in the first place, turning them into only a used game shop. This would've made Best Buy think twice, and we wouldn't have the problems we have now. |
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2012-03-30, 08:45 | Link #18 | |
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I would not be surprised in the slightest if the rumors were true. As DLC and digital downloads and their supporting programs (Steam, Live, Origin, etc.) have become more prevalent, developers have been looking for ways to subsidize the ridiculous development budgets with a constant stream of revenue. The ultimate goal is the same as any other media company - the content you, the consumer, access is effectively a "rental". You're paying real money for digital products. That's okay for vanity, but not for content (new levels, maps, stories, etc.). However if they can be complete gatekeepers, they can nip piracy and the used market in the bud. This lets them get away with charging silly prices for outdated content (like old emulated games) and collaborate with other media companies for their revenue bases. Essentially it's nothing more than another variation of their original market goal: one machine to rule them all.
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2012-03-30, 09:56 | Link #20 |
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I have a lot of doubts simply because I still don't think Sony is that stupid. Now I'm not 100% on that since some really dumb and annoying things has happened. I just think after not exactly winning this current age it would be rather stupid to shoot themselves in the foot like this.
You really could just hurt the sales since being locked in means the only thing you can do with a bad game is throw it out the window. I hope it's not true, but if it is the last hope may be with Nintendo. Well that and just polishing off my PS2 and pretending consoles died out years ago . Another annoying part of the speculation is killing backwards compatibility from the start. Is there something wrong with wanting to just have one system for the ton of games that have accumulated? Especially if you play from the multiple consoles out there, room is just going to get limited. At least start out with it so I can hang onto that original system with all I've got. The only problem I have with this is that it's not like they can't eventually get some money from those customers though. If someone buys a game in a series used there is nothing stopping them from buying the other games new and getting the money that way. The whole rental industry gave people a taste for a game so they could decide whether it was worth getting or not. Killing all those potential sales to lock people in and remove any re-sale value just doesn't work in my mind.
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