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The one tail beast would be 1/26th of the power. (0.0384) The Sanbi would be 3/26th (0.1153) Kiriabi would be 8/26th (0.3076) Kyubi would be 9/26th of the power of the 10 tails (0.3461 ) Add the beasts up and you would have 26/26 or 1 So we can see it as each Biju is a fraction of the original chakra and beast and not a whole number. Mathematically speaking... that means even the Kyubis power at 9/26th or 0.3461 or 34.61% is a drop in the bucket. Just think.... the Kyubi is only 34 percent as powerful as the Ten Tails... no wonder Madara is going to these lengths.... he would become a god ! Man... I am glad I paid attention in Math class during elementary school :P |
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So, Madara can use jutsus, he just doesn't (for whatever reason (maybe, as you say, he is too weak?)). Quote:
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That being said, wasn't this one of the original theories concerning the Sharingan? I forget now, but it was something to do with a Tengu raping a Byakugan user, or something demonic influencing a Byakugan, turning it into a Sharingan. While the specifics are very different, the idea of a demon creating the Sharingan has been around in one form or another for years, maybe almost a decade (the earliest I can remember are from 2003/4, but I am sure someone could have speculated upon this even earlier). Quote:
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9+8+7+6+5+4+3+2+1=45
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2009-10-10, 11:30 | Link #345 |
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I wonder if Samehada can harm Madara as it can deal damage to all forms of chakra.
Being that Madara seems to phase into intangibility, which is simply another state or frequency of energy, technically samehada should be able to harm him. It would be interesting if there was a back-story there. Such as in order to compete for the title of 4th mizukage, Madara's opponent created it to be able to combat Madara's intangibility powers but lost because he couldn't compete with Madara's teleportation. I know it won't work out that way but so far its the only thing in the anime that would seem to be effective against Madara. Well, that and maybe the genjutsu that Jiraya used against Pain that utilized sound instead of light. Every other single offensive jutsu that we've seen so far has attacked substance I think, with the exception of those two. Another thought is asking the question as to how will Madara control each bijuu? Will he unleash them one by one? And once they finish wreaking sufficient havoc will he then re-seal them for later use? How will all that work? I'm just waiting to find out if Naruto is a descendant of the Senju, and if so how will that play into his defeat of Madara. It would be easy for him to be a Senju though. All it would take would be for Hashirama's heir to have been a female. Once she married and took on her husband's name she would no longer be known as a Senju. I hope to see some other Konoha-nin shine before the curtain falls. It would really suck for everyone else to be spectators at the grand finale and not players, even if minor ones, on the board. PS I never left. I just don't spend any real time here reading every post. |
2009-10-10, 11:37 | Link #346 |
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Haven't read all of the previous replies yet , but I will do so later on. After reading the chapter everything didn't come off so bad. I still don't like the revealing of the whole plan , but whatever. I did enjoy the story of the Great Sage trapping the 10 tailed demon as it was told like a myth. I think Madara declaring war would have been bad a** if he didn't add the last part about "The 4th Ninja war starts now". I am not to keen on the whole trying the universal peace angle as Madara never gave any hint that he cared for peace. It came from no where, even when the Uchiha and the Senju clan became one for peace he was against it. Every step of his life has been a failure , full of betrayal and mishappenings , why would he want peace over revenge ?
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2009-10-10, 11:50 | Link #347 | |
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You simply can't go through someone while his other body parts are present. Let's say someone fully punches your head and/or your heart. And that body part is instantly sent away for just a moment. You simply can't survive that unless...unless it's dead already. Unlike Sasori who used the body of a puppet...Madara is most definetly using his own (dead) body which is the shell he and Itachi were talking about. Also yes... he showed his body parts..a part of his head was seen when he took off his mask. There was also one time when he blocked Suigetsu's sword attack. He also was able to carry Sasuke's body so his body is real. It isnt a ghost/projection/illusion like Bunshin no jutsu.
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2009-10-10, 13:04 | Link #349 |
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That and 8 tails Menacing Ball was around the 6 tailed Naruto's menacing ball power or less also 9 tails is the smartest of all bijuu and actually is stated to be the strongest of all the bijuu.
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2009-10-10, 13:18 | Link #350 | |
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Cultural and religious references in Japan. In the native Japanese religion of Shinto, as well as the imported religion of Buddhism there are elements of symbolism and mythology where numbers are important and carry levels and strengths. Kishi uses these elements to build his story. For example... The character PAIN is made up of six paths. This is plot element built around the real life Buddhist doctrine of the number of paths to Nirvana (heaven). There are six paths to Nirvana. Spoiler for if you wish:
Also... Kishi keeps the symbolism numerology and myth strong with the number of tails each beast has. In Japanese mythology multiple-head or tailed animals are often very powerful and their power increases with the number of heads or tails. For example Eight is a significant very number which correlates to the legend of Susanoo who conquered the eight head and eight tail dragon Orochi for a girl he wanted to marry and to assist her parents who were connected to the Goddess Ameterasu. Eight is also the number or parts the Buddhist Trigram Meanwhile their are 9 levels of hell in Buddhist doctrine. The kyubi hates humans and is a creature of fire pain and suffering. 9 is a bad luck number in Japan as well as it is it sounds like the word for pain. The Buddhist legend of the nine tailed fox is the worst possible luck that you can get into... etc. There are also positive references for the number 9... I just do not rememeber them off hand. Anyway because of the number nine.... Naruto is both blessed and cursed and he has to work hard to overcome the curse part by following one of the 6 paths. That is why he had to meet and beat pain. |
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1, why wouldn't Madara show it to Nagato when he knows that only the rinnegan can fully decode the great secret? It wouldn't make sense. And as i mentioned in the post you replied to why would Madara wait about 50 years to begin collecting the demons? It seems he began collecting the demons around the time when he should have met the young Nagato who just lost his best friend and was filled with hatred and pain. 2, How did Nagato know about the creation of the moon when it's supposed to be secret. Quote:
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On the other hand if the rikudo sennin didn't have those eyes and gained them by becoming the host of the 10 tails that would mean that Naruto would be able to grow a rinnegan eye for himself if the 10 tailed was sealed in him I don't believe that the rikudo sennin could capture the 10 tails if he didn't have a bloodline, Naruto's storyline is too much about bloodlines and genetic abilities instead of hard working and genius. But it would be nice if it turns out that genius and hard work can create everything (every jutsu that exists), in that case Naruto should become stronger than anyone with the rinnegan or sharingan. The child Nagato could easily use all 5 elements while for Naruto now there's only wind, he doesn't have the bloodline and that's the only difference. I would be happy if Naruto learns to use all 5 elements, that would be a nice. Quote:
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2009-10-10, 17:50 | Link #355 |
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What about Sharingan being related to Byakugan? It was said that it was believed that Sharingan was enveloped from Byakugan. This theory has been put aside and now the reality looks totally different. I wonder if Kishimoto made up his mind. To me it seems as if bloodlines had more meaning back in the days. Today, Bloodlines seem less interesting, everything was born from something divine and demonic.
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2009-10-10, 18:08 | Link #356 |
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how come every bad guy has to describe his evil plan so in detail to the public?? Could he gain anything by leaking that much info?? His plan is...ok but does he really need to yell it out to the good guys?
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2009-10-10, 18:19 | Link #358 |
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I don't know about you guys, but I am at a lost at the moment about what's going to happen next in the manga. Search for Killer Bee? Naruto fights Danzo? Why the heck is Kisame still in the picture, could he switch sides maybe by giving important Akatsuki information?
The manga has so many directions it could take right now.
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2. Madara could have told him. 3. Nagato could have figured it out himself after using Chibaku Tenin (or the various other techniques he already knew pre-Madara). Quote:
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Interesting Uchiha origin theory . @Killer Bee: You might be interested in the thread I have linked here (or at least the website link that is found within the link I have provided). It brings up many of your dimensional ideas... Last edited by james0246; 2009-10-10 at 21:33. |
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2009-10-10, 18:31 | Link #360 |
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I think that Raikage will enforce the search for his brother. He already hinted that.
Naruto learned from his father that he needs to control the Kyuubi's power, that this is the power needed to encounter someone as strong as Uchiha Madara. Danzou will remain the leader of Konoha if the other Kages don't blame him for running away. It's well possible that Naruto earns Raikage's trust next – I think he's already in favour of the Wave, the Sand and the Rain of course.
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