General Eroge Impressions & Discussion

[Aaerul]

Originally Posted by Mahou

Finished Hatsukoi Sacrament. And wow, it was for me quite confusing at some points. Heck, I cannot even say I know now what has been the "timeline" of it .

The common route was pretty strong in the second half. also i enjoyed both the normal end and the true end for Hikari, the total of them felt very triumphant >.< like the "Yessssssssss!!!!!" kind of feeling

but characters were quite a let down imo except Hikari.

finally playing G senjou no maou lol.
I noticed that of the last batch of games released in the last2months a lot of them were average except maybe midori no umi, renai 0 kilo, kkk... what else was good?


also picked up Dunamis15 for the ps3 - been hearing good things about this game so i figured i might as well..

Lots of games to look forward to in the horizon but they all seem to be February next year or later like dracu-riot or that saga planet game and grisaia sequel. the Fairys.tv game is also Feb? majikoi fans will be happy soon i guess.

oh and Da Capo III confirmed to be an All-ages game! ;D
a lot of ppl are angry...

What else is there to look forward to? I dont know anything about Dec's releases, have to wait for Micchi's post. im not sure if i will enjoy corona... ill give it a try i guess

[Hooves]

Betting that they will release a fan-disc for D.C. III if it's indeed an all-ages game so people wont rage

[johnishida]

Originally Posted by Hooves

Betting that they will release a fan-disc for D.C. III if it's indeed an all-ages game so people wont rage

It's Circus. They WILL release it with ero + new characters. Then go all-ages again with + new character and revert back to +18.

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by johnishida

It's Circus. They WILL release it with ero + new characters. Then go all-ages again with + new character and revert back to +18.

And I and the rest of the loyal D.C. fanbase will absolutely pre-order every limited edition on every platform without fail.

(Seriously, though, I will. )

[Aaerul]

Originally Posted by johnishida

It's Circus. They WILL release it with ero + new characters. Then go all-ages again with + new character and revert back to +18.

But they're using non-ero seiyuu to start off with. They can't suddenly change the voice actors to eroge-seiyuu? I think there won't be an 18+ adaptation

[johnishida]

Originally Posted by Aaerul

But they're using non-ero seiyuu to start off with. They can't suddenly change the voice actors to eroge-seiyuu? I think there won't be an 18+ adaptation

Oh, with non +18 seiyuu's it's a dif. story.
Circus must have a lot confidence in this new DC for it to be all-ages.

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by Aaerul

But they're using non-ero seiyuu to start off with. They can't suddenly change the voice actors to eroge-seiyuu? I think there won't be an 18+ adaptation

This happened before with ToHeart 2 that used rather known seiyuu, and had some "remarkably similar-sounding actors" take their roles in the 18+ version that followed. That said, both D.C. and D.C. II had different voice actors for the adult and non-adult/anime versions, so there's already a precedent. The only difference is that this time they're releasing the all-ages version on PC to start.

[Tong]

Saw some Dias Irae pics and damn, that looks like the" most Eroge" of all time...

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Tong

Saw some Dias Irae pics and damn, that looks like the" most Eroge" of all time...

The most what? Illustrator is the same guy who did Dantalian no Shoka....

[hyl]

Originally Posted by Hooves

Betting that they will release a fan-disc for D.C. III if it's indeed an all-ages game so people wont rage

Rewrite is also an all ages game and it did pretty well. So i am sure that D.C.III will sell seeing it's fanbase. Also if it's all ages, it's also more accesable to buy for some people.

[Mahou]

Ah, it will be kinda weird to play all-ages after my 99 % of normal eroge VNs . I think the only all-aged I played were Clannad, Symphonic Rain and True Remembrance. But yeah, it shouldn't be too bad (as long as there still fanservice shots )

Edit:

I noticed that of the last batch of games released in the last2months a lot of them were average except maybe midori no umi, renai 0 kilo, kkk... what else was good?

I would like to hear about it. The CG and story summary looks alright, but the "big" drama tag on VNDB as well as one picture I saw made my inner alarm bell slightly ring. I can handle drama okay-ish, but cannot imagine to "survive" through it as a main selling point. Let's not talk about dark-ish VNs and/or stuff with gory and/or bloody (as in dark settings) elements X_X

[Tong]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

The most what? Illustrator is the same guy who did Dantalian no Shoka....

Too much porn I said.

[Hooves]

Originally Posted by hyl

Rewrite is also an all ages game and it did pretty well. So i am sure that D.C.III will sell seeing it's fanbase. Also if it's all ages, it's also more accesable to buy for some people.

Yeah but that's by Key. Considering their past works like Little Busters, and Clannad which are both all ages disregarding EX. I would say Key demonstrated that they can make wonderful all ages games, but Circus has the 18+ content going for D.C. with the dozens of fan-discs for D.C. II. So the likelihood of them scrapping as much money as possible from all the possible fan-disc sequels for D.C. III is unanimous. But I can definitely picture people getting D.C. III from a wide range in terms of ages since it's been pretty popular.

Please the fans under the age of 18+, then please the fans of the original 18+ way. That's the best marketing method from my viewpoint for visual novels.

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

And I and the rest of the loyal D.C. fanbase will absolutely pre-order every limited edition on every platform without fail.

(Seriously, though, I will. )

*slowly raises hand*

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

This happened before with ToHeart 2 that used rather known seiyuu, and had some "remarkably similar-sounding actors" take their roles in the 18+ version that followed. That said, both D.C. and D.C. II had different voice actors for the adult and non-adult/anime versions, so there's already a precedent. The only difference is that this time they're releasing the all-ages version on PC to start.

I was curious how they would transition between the voice actors for the all ages version, and the voice actors for the possible sequels to be released. Just use different voice actors for the ero ero scenes.

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by Hooves

I was curious how they would transition between the voice actors for the all ages version, and the voice actors for the possible sequels to be released. Just use different voice actors for the ero ero scenes.

Well, in the past they had different voice acting for the entire game, which I think is a bit better. Having different voice actors just for the ero scenes will really make them mismatched with the rest of the story... plus I think the idea would be that the voice actors don't necessarily want their real names associated to an adult work for propriety reasons. So either they've actually hired voice actors who can do adult work under a different pseudonym, or they might just recast the whole thing as they did before (which of course means re-recording the whole thing).

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Tong

Too much porn I said.

You haven't seen anything yet if you think that is H-heavy....

[Balzac]

Are there any fans of the D.C. franchise who's below 18+ at this time?

In my opinion, the all-age games, or shall we say the visual novel/dating-sim without ero-element games should stay console. (though I speak as an uninformed of the Japanese market in general) Seems to be only a few all-age games work well as PC and most of the time it's because it's an established company or it's a doujin of sorts, or if it's a port of an already existing game with an already-established franchise.

[Tong]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

You haven't seen anything yet if you think that is H-heavy....

Never played that, but it gave off this vibe.

[Nikkan]

Originally Posted by Soviet

Well, I don't know about that. Hard to imagine that the story would make any sense without the Dies Irae background.
But yeah, KKK is great. Masada's writing is still insane and the production values are through the roof. I mean, this has to be one of the prettiest VNs ever.

Thanks for the quick answer. Haven't read Dies Irae yet, so I'll put KKK on hold for now.
Started reading SuGirly Wish but stopped halfway. I know it's a chara-ge and everything, but it just felt so....generic? (The girls were cute though)

[Mahou]

Originally Posted by Yumii-chan

Started reading SuGirly Wish but stopped halfway. I know it's a chara-ge and everything, but it just felt so....generic? (The girls were cute though)

Haha, I agree. Even for a "die-hard" sugary romance fan like I, the VN or rather the only route I played (the childhood friend one) was quite boring even though the characters were okay ignoring the ever-clueless main lead (aka the usual deal).

I tested for a bit "Gift" (the non-IOS version), but uhm ... I can list one flaw by now. It's fine and all the you can name the main lead as you like, but please if there's a default name than I'd love to see the voiced characters also voice it. It felt a bit awkward when there's suddenly silence in the dialogue the moment his name appears. I think Clannad and Kanon showed that it's possible to make the name "listenable" (unless that was due to the various full voice patches).
/goes back to try to make sense of Hatsukoi Sacrament's "timeline"/flow of events
I have the feelings that I just think way too complicated with it ...

[Undertaker]

Anyone tried the new Ricotta game yet?