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Alchemist007 · 2009-10-02, 16:36

Actually I found a smooth scrolling add on for FF

Not much of a reason I have to switch anymore, besides interface which isn't exactly better, just different.

Ledgem · 2009-10-02, 20:42

Smooth scrolling only exists on Windows, I think. I don't have it on Mac OS X, and I don't remember seeing it when I used Linux.

Compatibility with websites has improved for some sites, and remains unchanged for others. On the whole, I don't feel that it's improved as much as they'd hyped it up to be. I feel that I have to use an alternate browser much more frequently than I did a few years ago.

Bugs-wise, Opera hangs occasionally on weird things. The mail aspect has become surprisingly unstable. I can crash Opera occasionally by adding attachments to a message. I receive emails from a net service and every single one of them crashes Opera if I attempt to view them; I can't effectively clean my inbox at this point because if I hit one of them Opera will crash. Then there are some really shoddy, strange behaviors that seemingly shouldn't exist. Create a new line, enter a letter, and then press backspace twice - you'll notice that instead of backspacing up, the backspace performs a delete (forward delete). There are a few other inconsistencies as well... I've reported all of them to Opera via the bug report wizard.

My big gripe is with Unite. Opera is really excited about it. I'd imagine that they were disappointed to release Opera 10 without it; the next release (Opera 10.10) will likely include Unite. I keep up with their developer blog's newsfeed and it seems like nearly all of their bug fixes and activity are currently focusing around Unite. Given that there's still much work to be done for website compatibility, and a whole lot of bugs to be ironed out to make Opera 100% stable and reliable, it's a bit disheartening to see so much attention given to Unite. I sure hope Unite makes Opera a load of money and that it comes out to be worth it... I don't think I have much a use for it. I'd just like these bugs to be ironed out.

Renegade334 · 2009-10-15, 11:14

Opera v10.10 Build 1833 Beta 1 is now available for testing.

Spoiler for changelog:

SirJeannot · 2009-10-18, 17:28

is it just me, or does opera even more go to swaping land after not being used for too long?
I end up kill the ps and starting it fresh again

Renegade334 · 2009-10-27, 14:47

RE-bump.

Opera for Windows 10.01 Build 1844 Final.

Unite seems to be absent from this release.

- For Linux users.
- For Mac users.

Spoiler for changelog for 10.01:

Ledgem · 2009-10-30, 09:04

I really think that Unite is a useless endeavor. In theory Opera had the chance to bring out something "revolutionary" but with such a small market share, it's more likely that they'd finally put Unite out and another, more popular company would clone it and be the one to capitalize on it. I also think that Google Wave is going to steal Unite's thunder (not that they compete directly on features, but they compete in terms of concept).

Meanwhile, Opera's rendering, stability, and polish really need some work. Subjectively, I don't ever recall seeing ridiculous glitches like this (the mail bugs strike me as an indicator of extreme lack of refinement - and they're still around in 10.01) and in my memory Opera has traditionally been much more responsive about polishing and fixing. Their developer blog seems very heavily focused on Unite, so I'm guessing that's where much of their energy is going at the moment and hence what I'm blaming.

I can't wait for Unite's release. Don't care much for the idea (we'll see the implementation) and they'll still be busy fixing Unite bugs, I'm sure, but at least some resources and focus will likely return to everything else.

felix · 2009-10-30, 14:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ledgem

I really think that Unite is a useless endeavor. In theory Opera had the chance to bring out something "revolutionary" but with such a small market share, it's more likely that they'd finally put Unite out and another, more popular company would clone it and be the one to capitalize on it. I also think that Google Wave is going to steal Unite's thunder (not that they compete directly on features, but they compete in terms of concept).

Google wave is a replacement protocol/implementation for the email system (just happens it does a hole lot of other things), Opera Unite is sharing resources on your machine using your machine's resources, sort of like running your own server. This is like what Digsby does (if you allow it) for research purposes when you go idle.^#
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# I really think this "Wave vs Unite" topic is just a shameless self plug, so just added my own =P

Renegade334 · 2009-11-23, 08:44

Well, ain't this a surprise:

Opera for Windows v10.10 Final

For Linux users
For Mac users

changelog:

Spoiler:

chikorita157 · 2009-11-23, 17:36

In my opinion, Opera seems to be working in the wrong area instead of improving Javascript speeds and improving their interface so it's not so clunky. I have used Opera before Firefox 3.5 came out on Windows (I use Safari mainly on the Mac) and it beats Opera's Javascript speeds sadly. I would rather have them improve their Javascript engine so that it will be up to date to the ones of Safari and Chrome which currently have the fastest Javascript speeds.

Not so interested in Unite since I hardly would ever use those features anyways.

felix · 2009-11-23, 18:37

I think its this american trend to swarm to social networks that's influencing this non-sense trend of sharing with out purpose. Don't worry firefox isn't far behind the trend of sharing every daily minutiae.

Renegade334 · 2009-12-22, 11:51

Opera v10.50 Build 3172 Pre-Alpha:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Changelog

- Carakan is our new JavaScript engine
- using Presto 2.5, which contains a huge numbers of improvements. It also includes support for CSS3 transitions and transforms, and more HTML5 features like persistent storage
- Vega is our new graphics library
- On Windows 7/Vista, you will notice a lot of visual changes and use of APIs which allow the UI to display the Aero Glass effect
- For Windows 7, we also added Aero Peek and Jump List support to easily access your Speed Dials, Tabs, etc. from the Taskbar
- For Mac, a complete rewrite in Cocoa brings an Unified Toolbar, native buttons and scrollbars, multi-touch gestures (try 3-Finger Swipe Left/Right or Pinch to zoom) and a bunch of other small details
- You can open a new Private tab or Private window that forgets everything that happened on it once closed
- Dialog boxes (JavaScript alerts, HTTP authentication, etc.) are now non-modal and are displayed as a page overlay
- Address field and Search field improvements

- Windows.
- Mac OS X

felix · 2009-12-22, 18:27

Looks like they are getting back on the right track. Thank god.

chikorita157 · 2009-12-22, 18:49

The interface is a big improvement and more Mac like (except not completely yet) and the biggest point is that it's 30 ms faster than Safari 4.0.4 on Snow Leopard, 64-bit.

The only bad thing is no PowerPC support, but hopefully they will add that so I can test this bad boy on my Mac mini G4.

Test machine: MacBook Pro, Intel Core 2 Duo 2.16 Ghz T7400, 3 GB DDR2 RAM, Mac OS X 10.6.2

felix · 2010-02-06, 02:59

Somewhat stable/usable snapshot out. Including the fixes to fixes and bug related issues, this version contains new presto, and new javascript engine and more; in general bigger, badder, faster. Moving to aesthetics,

Zoom control at bottom right overhauled. (now too happy with less options frankly but its more userfriendly)
Address bar elements seems to snap to some grid; things like the search field.
Search field on top right of address bar has been re-designed.
Address bar popup suggestion list as you type has been redesigned (frankly I think the zebra design is best for tables but whatever).
Opera now defaults to "Show menu bar: Off"
When menu bar is off, the button (and in this build) entire menu has been overhauled. Much more friendly/intuitive now then in previous builds.
Wand icon is gone. Wand remember password also changed.
Fast forward is now integrated right into Forward.
No sign of Fast backward, seems to have just gone away.
Panel toggle is now moved to status bar.
Home and Refresh are still there; address bar is now more standard looking compared to other browsers.
Pop-ups are now non-modal. First of all this means they look way way better. Secondly this means you can switch tab even if the site in question spams you with popups.
Tab bar slightly improved. Nice little animation when tabs close/open now. Fast preview when you hove over them (effect persists if you just move from tab to tab, so only need to hover over one for 1s). The preview when hovering is obviously not refined/finished, given the very messy details.
Lock tab is now "Pin Tab". Duplicate tab is now "Clone Tab"
New tab option: "New Private Tab"
Tab bar placement now on tab bar right click menu.

A little different but usable, very fast too -- perhaps a little resource heavy compared to the current stable version but I suppose its to be expected of a snapshot. My only problem with it thus far is that the damn mouse wheel hold-to-scroll (yet again; like in every other snapshot before it) does not work. In all honestly, I've come to recognize that as the signature move of nightly opera builds -- that are usable, in every other respect, that is.

felix · 2010-02-09, 06:06

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog...acid3-and-more

Hotfixes,

Middle mouse now scrolls (yey!)
Several crash fixes
Acid3 passed 100%

More,

Forward/Back are now linked together (they don't overlap, there's just no space between them)
Wand is back, Fast Forward now overlaps wand instead of Forward as in previous build.

felix · 2010-02-10, 05:42

Opera v10.50 [build 3241] (Beta RC) available. Not really much of a surprise, previous build was pretty stable beta quality too. Nothing much to add, most bug/stability fixes. It is only for windows sadly, sorry max/nix users.

felix · 2010-02-11, 04:36

Opera v10.50 [build 3247] (Beta RC2) available. More hotfixes to common crashes of previous build.

felix · 2010-02-11, 06:25

Max/Unix builds available.

Forget nightly builds this is like hourly beta builds, lol. Hopefully they'll slow down now.

Revenger1589 · 2010-02-11, 12:03

So, now that the beta is out, is it stable enough to use as main browser?

felix · 2010-02-11, 12:32

Wouldn't recommend it sorry its not quite there yet. However I'm using it as main browser at the moment, just because all the improvements, in particular re-design elements such as pop-ups, address bar (and its buttons) etc simply outweigh the rare crashes (some of which seem to have been fixed). There is now also a crash log report feature that will pop up when Opera crashes which is neat and offers a very quick and convenient way to necro opera back to life.

Oh! one more thing, Opera now supports the standard compliant round corner feature; so you may notice sites (such as e-shuushuu.net¹ or my.opera.com itself for example) change appearance... drastically!!

If you wish to use it I suggest you disable plug-ins by default (F12 > Plug-ins: Off) and enable them by a site basis (ie. RightClick > Edit Site Preferences > Content > Plug-ins: On). They are not much of a problem for sites such as Youtube for example, but things like ads tend to have crap flash far too often for comfort. This won't necesarly cause the browser to crash but it does seem to slow or make it unstable.
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¹ honestly the excess of roundness is kinda of annoying and I'm tinkering of easy ways to revert them back with scripts.

2009-10-02, 16:36	Link #61
Alchemist007 Senior Member Author Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA	Actually I found a smooth scrolling add on for FF Not much of a reason I have to switch anymore, besides interface which isn't exactly better, just different. __________________ Fanfics Art MyAnimeList

2009-10-02, 20:42	Link #62
Ledgem Love Yourself Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Northeast USA Age: 38	Smooth scrolling only exists on Windows, I think. I don't have it on Mac OS X, and I don't remember seeing it when I used Linux. Compatibility with websites has improved for some sites, and remains unchanged for others. On the whole, I don't feel that it's improved as much as they'd hyped it up to be. I feel that I have to use an alternate browser much more frequently than I did a few years ago. Bugs-wise, Opera hangs occasionally on weird things. The mail aspect has become surprisingly unstable. I can crash Opera occasionally by adding attachments to a message. I receive emails from a net service and every single one of them crashes Opera if I attempt to view them; I can't effectively clean my inbox at this point because if I hit one of them Opera will crash. Then there are some really shoddy, strange behaviors that seemingly shouldn't exist. Create a new line, enter a letter, and then press backspace twice - you'll notice that instead of backspacing up, the backspace performs a delete (forward delete). There are a few other inconsistencies as well... I've reported all of them to Opera via the bug report wizard. My big gripe is with Unite. Opera is really excited about it. I'd imagine that they were disappointed to release Opera 10 without it; the next release (Opera 10.10) will likely include Unite. I keep up with their developer blog's newsfeed and it seems like nearly all of their bug fixes and activity are currently focusing around Unite. Given that there's still much work to be done for website compatibility, and a whole lot of bugs to be ironed out to make Opera 100% stable and reliable, it's a bit disheartening to see so much attention given to Unite. I sure hope Unite makes Opera a load of money and that it comes out to be worth it... I don't think I have much a use for it. I'd just like these bugs to be ironed out. __________________

2009-10-15, 11:14	Link #63
Renegade334 Sleepy Lurker Graphic Designer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nun'yabiznehz Age: 38	Opera v10.10 Build 1833 Beta 1 is now available for testing. Spoiler for changelog: Changelog since Opera 10 beta 3 User Interface Added * New Opera product icon Improved * Opera Turbo dialog box margins and whitespace * Tab states and positioning of the Standard Skin * Visual tabs appearance * Minor alterations to the opera:x, Error and Fraud pages appearance * Increased Auto update check interval Fixed * Opening the Address bar dropdown * Navigating back and forth to a form with an open input suggester * Disabling links on the Navigation bar * Toolbar updates * Gmail Contact manager issue * Collapsed Address Bar not showing domain name until page finishes loading * Problem while navigating History * BitTorrent problem * Not being able to remove the Menu button * Issue when saving a picture that has not been fully downloaded * Problem with "Sychronize Opera" button in Opera Speed Dial * Deletion of speed dials not being synchronized Display and Scripting Fixed * ECMAScript allocator/garbage collector issue * Web font with a local src not working * Spotify link conversion issue * History entry incorrectly created when IFRAME added using JavaScript (Yandex) * XMLHttpRequest buffer overflow Mail, News, Chat Fixed * Message body missing when marking a message as read before the body is downloaded * Unchecking "import messages" in the import dialog still processes messages * E-mail addresses are not fetched from a header using iso-8859-15 encoding * The customized HTML font dropdown in the Appearance dialog * Resetting HTML compose toolbar making the font list unusable * Words in Opera Mail and Feeds being cut off by the vertical scrollbar * Problem when opening image attachments Security Fixed * Sometimes unable to complete a secure transaction Windows Fixed * Printer not being accessible when printing a selection * Pressing Alt+Shift focuses the menu bar instead of switching languages * Removal of all private data in an upgraded profile * Showing list of closed tabs requires multiple clicks * Programs using the http protocol to open websites in Opera rendered blank pages in Windows Vista® and Windows 7® __________________ << -- Click to enter my (dead) GFX thread.

2009-10-18, 17:28	Link #64
SirJeannot AT Field Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: #animesuki Age: 14	is it just me, or does opera even more go to swaping land after not being used for too long? I end up kill the ps and starting it fresh again __________________ "facts Jeremy, facts!" - non factual Jeremy.

2009-10-27, 14:47	Link #65
Renegade334 Sleepy Lurker Graphic Designer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nun'yabiznehz Age: 38	RE-bump. Opera for Windows 10.01 Build 1844 Final. Unite seems to be absent from this release. - For Linux users. - For Mac users. Spoiler for changelog for 10.01: # User Interface * Added - Opera Link button with dropdown menu on the status bar; access to Opera Link in the main menu moved to Tools * Fixed - Issue with Opera Turbo and plug-in placeholders - Enabling Opera Turbo for the first time not showing the Opera Turbo information page - Opera not synchronizing more than 9 Speed Dials - Open instance of Opera not running when a laptop enters its wakeup stage - Commandline URL length being limited while Opera is running - Font enumeration problem - Issue when opening File open/Save dialog boxes # Mail, news, chat * Fixed - Problem creating a new mail account - Drafts sometimes missing after upgrading to Opera 10.00 - Follow/Ignore contact not working from the message header toolbar # Security * Fixed - Fixed an issue where certain domain names could allow execution of arbitrary code, as reported by Chris Weber of Casaba Security ; see our advisory - Fixed an issue where scripts can run on the feed subscription page - Fixed an issue where Web fonts could be used to spoof the page address # Miscellaneous * Fixed - Custom changes to operaprefs not appearing when upgrading from a version older than Opera 10.00 - Issue of 100% CPU usage fixed by preventing and avoiding the filling up of message loop - Opera not starting after computer reboot - Startup problem when Opera is installed in a path with a 2-byte character - Problem when upgrading single-user installation of Opera with no reference in registry __________________ << -- Click to enter my (dead) GFX thread. Last edited by Renegade334; 2009-10-28 at 16:51. Reason: Adding changelog

2009-10-30, 09:04	Link #66
Ledgem Love Yourself Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Northeast USA Age: 38	I really think that Unite is a useless endeavor. In theory Opera had the chance to bring out something "revolutionary" but with such a small market share, it's more likely that they'd finally put Unite out and another, more popular company would clone it and be the one to capitalize on it. I also think that Google Wave is going to steal Unite's thunder (not that they compete directly on features, but they compete in terms of concept). Meanwhile, Opera's rendering, stability, and polish really need some work. Subjectively, I don't ever recall seeing ridiculous glitches like this (the mail bugs strike me as an indicator of extreme lack of refinement - and they're still around in 10.01) and in my memory Opera has traditionally been much more responsive about polishing and fixing. Their developer blog seems very heavily focused on Unite, so I'm guessing that's where much of their energy is going at the moment and hence what I'm blaming. I can't wait for Unite's release. Don't care much for the idea (we'll see the implementation) and they'll still be busy fixing Unite bugs, I'm sure, but at least some resources and focus will likely return to everything else. __________________

2009-11-23, 08:44	Link #68
Renegade334 Sleepy Lurker Graphic Designer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nun'yabiznehz Age: 38	Well, ain't this a surprise: Opera for Windows v10.10 Final For Linux users For Mac users changelog: Spoiler: # User Interface * Added - A progress throbber in the Opera Unite and Opera Link setup dialogs - Favicons showing in search-engine list after double-clicking a word - New error wording for the Opera Unite application settings dialog - Open (UPnP) port information in the Opera Unite status dialog - New images to the Opera installer * Improved - The Unicode compatibility layer - Tooltip text explaining the red dot (attention state) on the Opera Unite icon - The Opera Unite application upgrade/launch dialog - Wording in the Opera Unite Application security and settings dialogs - Help now opens in new tabs when accessed with F1 and by other methods - Opera Unite applications performance - CSS for the standard Opera Unite applications - Accessibility and screenreader-friendly improvements: - Keyboard modifications and fine-tuning - Ability to exit Opera Show via the keyboard - Page structure and higher contrast in default Opera Unite applications - Opera Unite Fridge application using ARIA (Accessible Rich Internet Applications) to announce updates * Fixed - Opening a shared Opera Unite URL from Trash and rendering a blank page - Users not being informed that a valid name is already being used - Wrong page opening for the Opera Unite Home application - Opera asking for master password at startup instead of when the Password Manager is used - "Search the Web for ..." not working when selected with a mouse - The Ctrl+Z keyboard shortcut; now opens the most recently closed tab when all tabs are closed - An issue with IRC links "Save linked content as" - A problem showing thumbnails when hovering over tabs when tooltips are turned off - Double clicking Opera Unite Home (while Opera Unite is running) opens two tabs instead of one - Spatial Navigation causing a problem when approaching the end of a long document - Opera Unite applications not starting after first install - Tabless windows staying open when the "Allow windows with no tabs" preference is not checked - An open widget not getting focus when double-clicking it in the Widgets panel - Several string and translation issues - IME (Input Method Editor) being automatically ON regardless of your previous settings - IME (in a Japanese environment) always switches to hiragana at Opera start - Error message appearing when opening HTML files if Opera is not already running # Mail, News, Chat * Fixed - Using Ctrl+Enter in F2 dialog on mail view opens a page in the background and removes focus from the application - The Opera Mail systray icon not appearing if you have a mail window open but not focused - The hiding of certains types of mail in trash, drafts, sent, and outbox: now impossible to do so - Missing drafts which should be present when in draft view - Messages being incorrectly added to the mailing lists index - Sent mail showing up in recieved mail when Mail configuration is IMAP - Search not working in Sent items - Not being able to send mail from a Windows host with underscores in hostname # Display and scripting * Improved - The. jpeg encoding used by the Opera Unite Photo Sharing application * Fixed - Problems on some JavaScript-heavy sites - XML parsing errors on SVG documents - Canvas drawImage with SVG causing memory leaks - Problem after navigating to a page by double clicking the link context menu # Security * Fixed - Fixed a heap buffer overflow in string to number conversion; see our advisory. - Fixed an issue where error messages could leak onto unrelated sites; see our advisory. - Fixed a moderately severe issue, as reported by Chris Evans of the Google Security Team; details will be disclosed at a later date. # Miscellaneous * Improved - Text content of the 404 error page * Fixed - Incomplete page loading when running Opera Turbo - Not being able to upgrade Opera when installed to 2-byte named directory # Localization * Improved - Translations: updated searches, bookmarks, and Speed Dials * Fixed - Problem with default bookmarks breaking synchronization __________________ << -- Click to enter my (dead) GFX thread.

2009-11-23, 17:36	Link #69
chikorita157 ひきこもりアイドル IT Support Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pennsylvania , United States Age: 34	In my opinion, Opera seems to be working in the wrong area instead of improving Javascript speeds and improving their interface so it's not so clunky. I have used Opera before Firefox 3.5 came out on Windows (I use Safari mainly on the Mac) and it beats Opera's Javascript speeds sadly. I would rather have them improve their Javascript engine so that it will be up to date to the ones of Safari and Chrome which currently have the fastest Javascript speeds. Not so interested in Unite since I hardly would ever use those features anyways. __________________ Chikorita157's Anime Blog \| Atelier Shiori (Personal Sideblog) \| Tumblr \| Twitter

2009-11-23, 18:37	Link #70
felix sleepyhead Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: event horizon	I think its this american trend to swarm to social networks that's influencing this non-sense trend of sharing with out purpose. Don't worry firefox isn't far behind the trend of sharing every daily minutiae. __________________

2009-12-22, 18:27	Link #72
felix sleepyhead Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: event horizon	Looks like they are getting back on the right track. Thank god. __________________

2009-12-22, 18:49	Link #73
chikorita157 ひきこもりアイドル IT Support Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pennsylvania , United States Age: 34	The interface is a big improvement and more Mac like (except not completely yet) and the biggest point is that it's 30 ms faster than Safari 4.0.4 on Snow Leopard, 64-bit. The only bad thing is no PowerPC support, but hopefully they will add that so I can test this bad boy on my Mac mini G4. Test machine: MacBook Pro, Intel Core 2 Duo 2.16 Ghz T7400, 3 GB DDR2 RAM, Mac OS X 10.6.2 __________________ Chikorita157's Anime Blog \| Atelier Shiori (Personal Sideblog) \| Tumblr \| Twitter

2010-02-06, 02:59	Link #74
felix sleepyhead Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: event horizon	Somewhat stable/usable snapshot out. Including the fixes to fixes and bug related issues, this version contains new presto, and new javascript engine and more; in general bigger, badder, faster. Moving to aesthetics, Zoom control at bottom right overhauled. (now too happy with less options frankly but its more userfriendly) Address bar elements seems to snap to some grid; things like the search field. Search field on top right of address bar has been re-designed. Address bar popup suggestion list as you type has been redesigned (frankly I think the zebra design is best for tables but whatever). Opera now defaults to "Show menu bar: Off" When menu bar is off, the button (and in this build) entire menu has been overhauled. Much more friendly/intuitive now then in previous builds. Wand icon is gone. Wand remember password also changed. Fast forward is now integrated right into Forward. No sign of Fast backward, seems to have just gone away. Panel toggle is now moved to status bar. Home and Refresh are still there; address bar is now more standard looking compared to other browsers. Pop-ups are now non-modal. First of all this means they look way way better. Secondly this means you can switch tab even if the site in question spams you with popups. Tab bar slightly improved. Nice little animation when tabs close/open now. Fast preview when you hove over them (effect persists if you just move from tab to tab, so only need to hover over one for 1s). The preview when hovering is obviously not refined/finished, given the very messy details. Lock tab is now "Pin Tab". Duplicate tab is now "Clone Tab" New tab option: "New Private Tab" Tab bar placement now on tab bar right click menu. A little different but usable, very fast too -- perhaps a little resource heavy compared to the current stable version but I suppose its to be expected of a snapshot. My only problem with it thus far is that the damn mouse wheel hold-to-scroll (yet again; like in every other snapshot before it) does not work. In all honestly, I've come to recognize that as the signature move of nightly opera builds -- that are usable, in every other respect, that is. __________________

2010-02-09, 06:06	Link #75
felix sleepyhead Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: event horizon	http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog...acid3-and-more Hotfixes, Middle mouse now scrolls (yey!) Several crash fixes Acid3 passed 100% More, Forward/Back are now linked together (they don't overlap, there's just no space between them) Wand is back, Fast Forward now overlaps wand instead of Forward as in previous build. __________________

2010-02-10, 05:42	Link #76
felix sleepyhead Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: event horizon	Opera v10.50 [build 3241] (Beta RC) available. Not really much of a surprise, previous build was pretty stable beta quality too. Nothing much to add, most bug/stability fixes. It is only for windows sadly, sorry max/nix users. __________________

2010-02-11, 04:36	Link #77
felix sleepyhead Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: event horizon	Opera v10.50 [build 3247] (Beta RC2) available. More hotfixes to common crashes of previous build. __________________

2010-02-11, 06:25	Link #78
felix sleepyhead Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: event horizon	Max/Unix builds available. Forget nightly builds this is like hourly beta builds, lol. Hopefully they'll slow down now. __________________

2010-02-11, 12:03	Link #79
Revenger1589 otaku against own will Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Argentina Age: 37	So, now that the beta is out, is it stable enough to use as main browser?

2010-02-11, 12:32	Link #80
felix sleepyhead Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: event horizon	Wouldn't recommend it sorry its not quite there yet. However I'm using it as main browser at the moment, just because all the improvements, in particular re-design elements such as pop-ups, address bar (and its buttons) etc simply outweigh the rare crashes (some of which seem to have been fixed). There is now also a crash log report feature that will pop up when Opera crashes which is neat and offers a very quick and convenient way to necro opera back to life. Oh! one more thing, Opera now supports the standard compliant round corner feature; so you may notice sites (such as e-shuushuu.net¹ or my.opera.com itself for example) change appearance... drastically!! If you wish to use it I suggest you disable plug-ins by default (F12 > Plug-ins: Off) and enable them by a site basis (ie. RightClick > Edit Site Preferences > Content > Plug-ins: On). They are not much of a problem for sites such as Youtube for example, but things like ads tend to have crap flash far too often for comfort. This won't necesarly cause the browser to crash but it does seem to slow or make it unstable. __________________ ¹ honestly the excess of roundness is kinda of annoying and I'm tinkering of easy ways to revert them back with scripts.