2006-12-26, 06:57 | Link #341 | |
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all im saying is that shinku's stuck up attitude stinks...thankgod she has changed from that since she met jun ~ by admitting she was wrong to call gin "junk" has been a big step for her development wise i guess ouverture just brought out the bad side to shinku ~ the more i look at the rabbit the more i want to slap him
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2006-12-26, 08:30 | Link #344 |
Hayate sama no Tame ni!!!
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Shinku's done well, except for that "I pity you" talk in Suigintou's N-Field...
Did not like Souseiseki back there... Why engage someone who's obviously not ready to fight? If Shinku didn't bad-mouth Gin, then Jun will have an additional doll with him... But no more screentime for megu... Over all, Ouverture was a success, pretty much explained Gin's side of the story... |
2006-12-26, 08:55 | Link #345 | |
Yummy, sweet and unyuu!!!
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If it was just about the Alice game then Sara for would be the best medium for Sou, she is clever, cool headed and respects the maiden's decision even if she doesn't agree with it. More importantly she doesn't seem to mind the Alice game at all, calmly pointing out that Shinku should deal with Gin now and helping her is strange If Sara was Sou's medium in the S1 and S2 era I would have put my money on Sou... BTW even through Sou's actions in the OAV were so in character, I really hated the way she acted
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2006-12-26, 10:35 | Link #346 | ||
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^ Sou didnt even consider whether Gin was armed or not. All that counted for Sou was that Gin had the knowledge of the Game. Which she didnt at all, really, having just only heard the word "Alice Game" a few minutes ago.
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(2) I dont disagree. The attitude isnt nice. And it isnt the whole of Shinku. And yes, it's good that she apologised to Gin. Becoming "Junk" herself in S1 ep 12 must have really hit Shinku; given her a reality check. I just wanna add my last 2 cents: Shinku wasnt right to lie to Gin, even if she wanted to protect Gin and let her be as happy as possible without Father - there, I think, Shinku made a miscalculation: Gin would never be happy without Father. But it was made without bad motive, at least. Anyhow, too bad Shinku thought that of her; too bad Gin followed Shinku into Sou's field; too bad Shinku's notions of the superiority of Rozen Maidens led her to outcasting Gin; and too bad Gin imputed wrong motives to Shinku. Quote:
Sigh. Its tragic to think of Shinku and Suigintou, once sharing cookies over cups of tea. Hmm. I've got a new resolution for S3, or at least, the ultimate, final, end of RM (if there will ever be one). Yes, I want to at least see Shinku and Gin laughing like age-old friends over their tea cups. One scene really gets me.. the scene where they show Shinku's shoes and then Gin's. The rose that is atop them look so similar, yet still different. It really made me think that those two are two sides of the same coin.. As if they were manufactured opposite - by design? Maybe those two are destined to be Alice.. together. Wow, so it really seems that Laplace is the controller of how the Alice Game runs, somewhat like a moderator? He has the power (And authority?) to stop the Alice Game, and proclaim it limits, as far as time is concerned. Maybe applying this new knowledge to what we were discussing about the real-life Laplace's Demon can get us somewhere in our speculations. |
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2006-12-26, 12:27 | Link #349 | |
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Suigintou = Envy Kanaria = Greed Desu = Sloth Sou = Lust Shinku = Pride Hinaichigo = Gluttony Kira = Vengence
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2006-12-26, 13:03 | Link #351 | |
Not Enough Sleep
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I put Sou for Lust, since she seems to be the most willing to go the extreme for "Father." Funny thing is Sou looks like a little boy and all her pervious masters that we seen are old man
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Thinking about it, the maidens are far too complicated to categorize into the 7 sins
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2006-12-26, 18:33 | Link #354 | |
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yep that scene touched me too best bit was when gin sama poured tea for shinku and she actually thought it was good tea O.o (thats a first lol) oh and that cookie she gave gin ^_^ how sweet ~ the bastard bunny? yep to me he seems more like the overseer of things and keeps the rules in check ~ but i still cant get rid of his evil image inside me >.<
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2006-12-26, 21:24 | Link #357 |
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We should stop the Shinku-bashing because if she didn't do that, how could we have the Gin right now.
If Shinku was nice, polite and was able to keep Gin kind and loving, it would mean double trouble for Shinku. (Kira stalks Gin while she stalks Shinku. So Shinku would already have her hands full looking after 2 sisters and there would be no Alice game since the others are mostly pacifists except for Souseiseki and porbably Kanaria)
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Join Date: May 2006
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If we want accuracy we can can use Kanaria's numbered attempt at invading the Sakurada house. Anyway *does no longer care the slightest about Shinku* *is in Gin-sama's camp* Long live Gin-sama! *celebrates overture* *Will always be in Gin-sama's camp*T_T +_+ ..must...obey ..Gin-sama... If Gin-sama hates roses Then I have to hate Roses too! T_T It can't be any different me after all!!! +_+ *goes out to slaughter random red roses* Quote:
AndFlo That said, I was left with mixed feelings about Shinku. Firstly I'm glad it was she who took care of Gin. Seeing the innocent Gin and how she learned to walk and make tea melted me beyond the standard moe. T_T Who knows what kind of horror would ensue if it was Souseiseki, Barasuishou or Kirakishou instead....T_T or *gasp* the bunny guy T_T I'd feel like having a baby sibling thrown away to be raised by a lvl99 evil hellspawn from some random game.T_T But then... Quote:
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Gin-sama is made of something special. Highlighted when she took Barasuishou's hit covering Shinku. Shinku lacks that special something. Sum of scene 11min. in eps2: Gin-sama reveals herself, pleading to Souseiseki. Shinku stands still, telling Gin to stay away. Souseiseki points weapon. T_T Shinku stands still. Tells Souseiseki to stop. Souseiseki attacks. T_T Shinku stands still. Tells Gin to run away. <-Amazing isn't it? Poor girl can barely walk and she's expected outrun a *beeeeping* pair of flying scissors... .... T_T Gin screams in pain. Shinku stands still. Shinku chats with Souseiseki, looking pitifully at Gin while she's in pain. Shinku fills Souseiseki in on how Gin is a failure...T_T Screams of pain Still standing still Shinku comments on how Gin's love for her father, which gave her the energy, someday would disappear anyway....T_T Shinku finally walks some 20 steps toward Gin. Commenting on how Gin should just have been content with being Sara's doll. T_T Blaming Gin for having followed her. Informing her on how she's now dead. Gin reaches out for her. Pleading Shinku to save her. The two stand still. Shinku looks away as Gin disappears. The two starts chatting. T_T ...end. T_T Needless to say, once she earns my grudge, I'll NEVER forgive. I'd post a WTF pic that would put even Flo to shame, but I don't have enough skillz T_T Quote:
Gin wasn't even challenging her. She just wanted a little acceptance as a Rozen Maiden, and Shinku couldn't even allow her one single tiny bit of that pride. T_T Obviously second rate dolls and second rate RMysticas can't ever deserve to meet dear daddy. T_T *goes off to make sure red roses become extinct* Genocide FTW! T_T AFTER ALL!!! T_T and then Souseiseki.....I won't ever forgive what happened.....T_T I used to hold her dedication with respect almost as high as Desu, but what happened was pretty *beeepy* and those days are OVER. *goes to rewatch episode of Soueiseki getting p0wned by Gin-sama* ... ... .. . T_T *Still isn't satisfied* Souseiseki that *beeeep* *beeping* *beeeEEEEEEEep* of a *beeepING* **beeeephole* from *beeeEEEEEPPPP* *beeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP* I have halfheartedly tried to see her POV. But really, what is the difference between Desu and the innocent Gin? FFS!!!! Gin was pleading her not to hurt Shinku....exactly what Desu would do. Gin is her sister....exactly like Desu is (except for the twin concept). Despite that she still kills her off without second thought.... WHAT?WHY? Why can't she hold back a *beeeping* second and realize innocent Gin isn't all that different from Desu? Was Gin a threat? WTF? Poor girl was barely able to stand while clinging onto that pillar. Was she afraid that Gin would suddenly burst out from that weak facade to ambush her? WTF? That level of diplomacy would make even the nanoha girls look gdhighlvl saintly. *Disagrees with anyone who thought Souseiseki was reasonable* HATE! ME HATE! *hates* Rozen treats Gin like a pile of *BEEEEEEEEEEEP* Shinku her sister looks down on her. And that *beeeping*BEEEEPP* of a "sister" kills her after a single minute of introduction. The 1 million $ question: Where is the justice for innocent Gin? With these 2 eps it suddenly feels naturally obvious to me why she came to care so much for Megu. Gin is really a good, loving and caring person from start. She just needed someone to love and protect her... At least she got Megu in S2 T_T ....not forgive Souseiseki.....not forgive.......(yes, yes, that's quite a love you have for your daddy there).....But I will NEVER forgive........T_T And that's MY Bottom Line! ™Flo Last edited by Arimfe; 2006-12-26 at 23:00. |
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2006-12-26, 23:29 | Link #359 | |
Tenshi's Defense Squadron
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2006-12-26, 23:34 | Link #360 | |
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I won't ever allow the slightest chance for something to ever mutate into something that disgusting...T_T *continues genocide of roses* |
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