2017-10-08, 23:00 | Link #4541 | |
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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Ya, Ui isn't really a power up per say. Goku is still running on the same 1300mha battery. but got a new A11 Bionic chip set that allow him to use the energy in a different way. |
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2017-10-09, 00:15 | Link #4545 |
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Join Date: May 2015
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Speaking super saiyan limit i think that is not complete form yet with that limit and there is hint that Goku must regain that form again to defeat Jiren which implying whether to regain or to complete it.
That form also remind me for non-canon pseudo super saiyan from Slug movie. |
2017-10-09, 09:29 | Link #4546 |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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The thing I enjoy the most in the last episode is that when everyone else questions how Goku can survive and get even stronger after the blast, everyone in U7 is so chill and getting used to the hax from Goku
And the first person view from goku (guarding from the "strong" lady, and the first kick after the transformation) is just so cool !!!
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2017-10-09, 11:04 | Link #4547 |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Do you guys think it was a very cool moment that Goku used all SSJ form (what is SSJ3? ) to test Jiren's power?
Base form and SSJ does zero damage, SSJ2 managed to Jiren's head a bit, and SSG forced Jiren to use his finger to block. This has showed that the gap between SSJ2 and SSG was so enormous. |
2017-10-09, 14:01 | Link #4549 | |
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The SSJ2 is not worth Whis's time to eat. |
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2017-10-09, 18:04 | Link #4552 | |
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Also, this state was first hinted at in the Freeza movie. Back then Whiss explained that in order to reach the fastest movements and reaction, you'd have to move automatically, without thinking. He said this was so hard to achieve not even Beerus has managed to do it. That's what "ultra instinct" is all about. It's pure instinctual movement and reaction, pretty much bypassing the brain. It's martial arts enlightenment as its highest degree.
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2017-10-09, 18:58 | Link #4553 | |
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I mean Whis pretty much established the fact that the spirit bomb wasn't giving him a power boost. It was just being used as an energy source to replace the energy he'd completely depleted earlier on. And yet, even in base form, ultra instinct allowed Goku to continue packing enough power behind his punches to force Jiren to take them seriously--unlike SSJ1 and 2 where Jiren didn't even need to defend. So while I also don't consider this a transformation, so far I think it's fair to compare it to a power-up technique. I'm almost tempted to think of this as the gods version of kaio-ken. Merely tapping into it allows one to begin stepping foot into the realm of the gods while complete mastery may allow one to walk among them (figuratively speaking). |
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2017-10-09, 19:12 | Link #4554 |
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What I see it as, is an extension of his base form. We've had transformation after transformation, being "multipliers" since the Kaioken. You could say the only two base form changes we've had since early Z is god ki and this ultra instinct, or as I've seen it: "mastery of movement". So I think it may be possible to combine his transformations with it, but he'd probably run out of stamina in a second. I much prefer it to another Super Saiyan form.
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2017-10-09, 20:18 | Link #4555 | |
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2017-10-09, 20:35 | Link #4558 |
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I'm not entirely convinced he was in "base" form, to be honest. It just seems like even more BS than normal for Toei to have base form do that much just because he can move more naturally when he connected as a SSJ2 and did nothing. I imagine he has to be in that "God Ki non-SSJ" form from Resurrection F.
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2017-10-09, 21:04 | Link #4560 | |
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On that note, it looks like Jiren can use some sort of pseudo "ultra instinct" with the power from his eyes. Note his eyes glow when he's ready to attack.
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