To Aru Majutsu no Index - Light Novel - New Testament Volume 12 Speculation/Theories

[relentlessflame]

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[Miraluka]

Someone share the sinopsis original text and. Translation here please.

[OH&S]

I go to sleep and wake up to this? I'm embarrassed by this fanbase sometimes (or rather the 5-6 users that continually screw things up)...

Anyway collating all of the NT12 information from entei08's posts in the archived thread:

Originally Posted by entei08

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◆　　　　新约　とある魔术の禁书目录12　(2015年3月発売)
◆　　　　【著/镰池和马　イラスト/はいむらきよたか】
◆———————————————————————————————◆
　　クリスマス间近の学园都市。第十五学区にある超巨大复合ビル「ダイヤノイド」へ游びに来た 上条は、そこ で浜面と遭遇する。
　　そして同じタイミングで「魔神」と称する人物が现れ……。

Vol 12 on March


Christmas is closing in on Academy City. As Kamijou pays a visit to the giant complex building "Dianoid" located in Distract 15, he bumps into Hamazura.

At the same time, someone calling themselves a magic god appears.

Originally Posted by entei08

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New Arc confirmed to be named the "Magic God Arc".

Originally Posted by entei08

NT 12 goes on sale March 10th.

世界からオティヌスを救った上条当麻。彼の元に新たな脅威が迫る。それはまだ見ぬ魔神。そして 学園都市第六 位の超能力者・藍花悦――の紛い物まで現れ……!?

Touma rescued Othinus from the world. But because of it, a new threat draws near - a yet-unseen magic god. And then, Academy City's #6th Level Five Esper Aihana Etsu - no, the impostor - appears again!?

Translated by 4chan anon.

That's everything we know. Latest spoilers are from the Dengeki Website so its confirmed.

Also, some needed clarification on the "But because of it..." part:

彼の元に新たな脅威が迫る is the whole sentence. 彼の元に is the phrase that results in the specific translation. There is no incorrect reading of this; the summary implies that because Othinus was rescued by Touma this new threat is approaching.

[LevelSeven]

who thinks that the new magic god will be the "weakest" and than take touma and shiage (because they are so unique :/ )as "assistance" in order to defeat the other majins who are planning something "evil"?
kind of like thor in NT5 :/

[dazo]

Originally Posted by LevelSeven

who thinks that the new magic god will be the "weakest" and than take touma and shiage (because they are so unique :/ )as "assistance" in order to defeat the other majins who are planning something "evil"?
kind of like thor in NT5 :/

add me to the list!

something like this-

random magic-god:
after our falling to earth, we notice that our powers were suffering a fluctuation and, in some case we lose the total control of our powers.

we can only estimate that the forced change of phases and the difference in power (environment) has corrupt our magic god status

and, till we can recover our power , we need your help touma!
you can come along too, hamazura boy *someone need to carry the drinks*

but, i also like the idea of magic gods being hunted by aleisteir ...

in any case, i "feel like"/"think that" touma is going to be manipulated ...again

[SimoHalo]

Originally Posted by dazo

but, i also like the idea of magic gods being hunted by aleisteir ...

I don't know about that, he is still recovering after the smackdown.

Originally Posted by dazo

in any case, i "feel like"/"think that" touma is going to be manipulated ...again

Who knows, the Magic God were concerned about Touma's "growth", but what could be that "growth" be?

[Hiss13]

Originally Posted by SimoHalo

I don't know about that, he is still recovering after the smackdown.

Bear in mind that (if I interpreted the summary correctly) that the magic god (if it ends up being Niangniang, I will applaud happily) is in Academy City. No matter how much recovery he is undergoing, he/she is right now in Aleister's territory (which he has regained complete control of again as of NT11). He doesn't need to hunt him/her. He/she is already in Aleister's grasp.

[LevelSeven]

Originally Posted by dazo

add me to the list!

Sir! Yes, Sir!

random magic-god:
after our falling to earth, we notice that our powers were suffering a fluctuation and, in some case we lose the total control of our powers.

we can only estimate that the forced change of phases and the difference in power (environment) has corrupt our magic god status

and, till we can recover our power , we need your help touma!
you can come along too, hamazura boy *someone need to carry the drinks*

uuhhhh, it actually makes sense XD
but i only meant one majin who asks for help... exactly like thor did in NT5 where he "betrayed" gremlin...
the "new" majin will do the same and we will (MAYBE) see toumas "growth"

but, i also like the idea of magic gods being hunted by aleisteir ...

this...

in any case, i "feel like"/"think that" touma is going to be manipulated ...again

it is super-easy to manipulate him...
he isnt even asking questions...
tell him a girl is captured by [add dangerous organization] and this is making her sad i think to 86.35% that he will offer his help without a second thought :/

@simon

Who knows, the Magic God were concerned about Touma's "growth", but what could be that "growth" be?

they said "unnecassary" like in: "stay like you are now"
seems like they dont want that touma has any "growth" :/

[LevelSeven]

Originally Posted by hamazura

please tell me the magic gods arent all hot chick (or even worse loli shit like nus), i want badass manly villain

at least one of them is a "old man"...
one is a loli...
and another oen seems to be a woman...
chose which one will fall for touma

[Fizix]

Originally Posted by LevelSeven

at least one of them is a "old man"...
one is a loli...
and another oen seems to be a woman...
chose which one will fall for touma

The old man.

I do agree that there needs to be more male characters and Al going after magic gods does make sense.

What I'd like to see is the established cast being brought together against these powerful opponents more and less solo Touma, it would make better use of them and could give index a reason to even be there. Just think of the character dynamic, it would be wonderful.

Wasn't Shiage mentioned previously? It gives some hope.


ETA: and lol at the opening post, I'll do my best to try my best not to break those rules.

[LevelSeven]

Originally Posted by hamazura

oh god, all girl (and worse, a damn loli), just 1 old man. when the last time we had badass charismatic manly villain? fiamma?, well if so then its already 11 damn volumes..

Oh hell, you are right, thor was the only male "villian" but he doesnt count since he wasnt really the "enemy"...
Since NT began we didnt get a single male arc-villian is somehow sad

[SimoHalo]

Originally Posted by LevelSeven

@simon

they said "unnecassary" like in: "stay like you are now"
seems like they dont want that touma has any "growth" :/

I actually screwed up the actual quote is:

“We have no more attachment to Othinus herself, but this ending could hinder Kamijou Touma’s future. Then again, I doubt anyone but us could resolve this now that a magic god is involved. It would be a shame to have the direction thrown off so much for something so trivial.”

I'm quite curious about their ideal future for Touma, and how it differs from his future now

[dazo]

Originally Posted by LevelSeven

at least one of them is a "old man"...
one is a loli...
and another oen seems to be a woman...
chose which one will fall for touma

choose?
come on! we know that all females magic-gods are going to fall for touma...

well..with hamazura in the picture..maybe he can obtain his own magic god.

i wouldn't trust too much in the "old man" gender
* girdle of femininity/masculinity*

Originally Posted by LevelSeven

Oh hell, you are right, thor was the only male "villian" but he doesnt count since he wasnt really the "enemy"...
Since NT began we didnt get a single male arc-villian is somehow sad

i don't see the problems with females villains..if it wasn't for the fact that they are "damsel in distress"

..sometimes...i miss terra of the left, you know..the dude with green hair and a interesting smile

I'm quite curious about their ideal future for Touma, and how it differs from his future now

something tell me that the don't want a "edgy/ angry/ person capable of thinking beyond the " lets save the world" touma

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by dazo

something tell me that the don't want a "edgy/ angry/ person capable of thinking beyond the " lets save the world" touma

So he should not save the world?

[dazo]

he need to save the world, and then fix it.

saving is not enough..it never is..

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by dazo

he need to save the world, and then fix it.

saving is not enough..it never is..

That's impossible to ask of anyone, people having been trying to 'fix' the world since forever.

EDIT: Case-in-point, look at you-know-who from F/Z when trying to 'fix' the world (spoiler obviously)

[LevelSeven]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

So he should not save the world?

at least looking at the bigger picture would be nice :/
i think it isnt heroic to save the girl in front of you and as aftereffect hundreds of people suffer :/
for me, seeing the bigger picture and doing the "dirty"/"evil" things is THE "heroic" stuff
if danzo didnt have such a cr*ppy personality im sure he would have become my favorite char of the naruto-cast

[Kenju of the Right]

Originally Posted by dazo

saving is not enough..it never is..

Wasnt this what Touma was telling Fiamma about

[dazo]

yep, but they at least are trying ()

touma punch the evil guy, and then return to his "normal live" , when the most logical outcome, is to keep fighting, fixing what was broken (or, at least keeping a constant surveillance)

and, in this case touma have power, much more power than normal persons.(apart of his "faction" , he have a hidden power)
*the level 5 and saints too, those are powers being wasted...*

- different persons ..and different "ways"

Originally Posted by Kenju of the Right

Wasnt this what Touma was telling Fiamma about

the irony!

[LevelSeven]

Originally Posted by dazo

*the level 5 and saints too, those are power being wasted...*

at least accel mentioned that he doesnt care about the world, so he wouldnt even stand up to save it, at least only until it becomes his (or his "loved peoples") business