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Perfect 10 | 133 | 39.82% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 81 | 24.25% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 32 | 9.58% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 27 | 8.08% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 11 | 3.29% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 10 | 2.99% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 4 | 1.20% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 3 | 0.90% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 0.30% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 32 | 9.58% | |
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2008-09-26, 20:50 | Link #721 | |
(☞゚∀゚)☞ロンパアアアア!!
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EDIT: Didin't see your edit. If it was Alto... Did my shipper mind just blow up right now?
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2008-09-26, 20:51 | Link #722 | |
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You also have to remember, after the deed is done, the ornament is returned to the woman, by the man. Sometimes to put it back on her where appropriate. I don't think its a coincidence that Alto came from a Japanese family, hell, an old school Japanese family, at that. - Tak
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2008-09-26, 20:54 | Link #723 | |
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But glyph brings out a point that I always wondered, Sheryl did say she was lending him earring in 24... Or did she not? Might have imagined the line...
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2008-09-26, 20:59 | Link #724 | |
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2008-09-26, 21:37 | Link #726 |
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Nope, ur plenty helpful just that I * * , more specifically, my stupid laptop is unable to * want to so bad* to make use of your much desired help.
@ Natsuki, Tak Oh man, I love the idea of Alto purposely not giving the earing back to her, if that's really true, Makes me feel all warm & fuzzy inside * giggles * I already loved the salute even before i knew it was an homage to DYRL & gosh This earing thing just makes me feel soooo .....* sigh* Back to topic, as far as I can recall, like Tak said, sheryl doesnt say anything abt the earing, she just puts it on him & tells him to return Last edited by aneeshadc; 2008-09-26 at 21:53. |
2008-09-26, 21:56 | Link #727 | |
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(sheryl and Alto have been engaged since she gave him the first earring, the only one that didn't know was Alto . Alto doesn't know much about Japanese culture and sheryl does even though she didn't know how to use chopsticks). both girls had their moments in episode 25, Ranka being rescued again and sheryl getting the salute. |
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2008-09-26, 21:59 | Link #728 | |
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Errr... You do realize that he was raised to play Kabuki... - Tak
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2008-09-26, 22:03 | Link #729 | |
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Of course Alto know about Japanese culture and sheryl doesn't. |
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2008-09-26, 22:06 | Link #730 | |
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As of now, I feel that's the only weak point of the symbolization argument here, so Tak, get your ass off and do your work to convince this rebellious Sheryl fan! @golthin Emoticons makes a great job in sarcasms
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2008-09-26, 22:13 | Link #731 | |
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Oh Kawamori, see what you have done. Now your fans are fighting over an earring.....and a salute!
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2008-09-26, 22:29 | Link #732 | |
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When I viewed that scene, she was basically saying "Go, fulfill your duties, and then come back to me", with an emphasis on the last part. She entrusted him with that earring for 2 purposes: 1. Go, and if you don't come back, at least keep my memory with you to the very end 2. Go, and come back safely, to me (thus the engaged part) - Tak
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2008-09-26, 22:31 | Link #733 | |
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Back to reality, I do need to be convinced abt its authenticity since I know nada abt japanese culture & the engagement thing is going tooo far. For me the actual symbolism beyond it, was that there's still unfinished business b/w them, the conversation that they have yet to continue, Alto has yet to finish what he started to tell her in ep 24, it was a promise of new beginning for them. The salute felt like pretty much the same thing to me, it felt like a reminder to Sheryl from Alto that he's done what she asked of him, he's saved ranka-chan & she'll have to listen to whatever it is he wants to tell her later. It just felt like unspoken communication b/w them. I know I'm definitely reading too much into it, but can you blame me I love to think of it like that. My fangirl heart goes dokun dokun dokun. Atleast I'm not stating my fangirl delusions as facts, unlike some |
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2008-09-26, 22:44 | Link #734 | |
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It's how I felt about the original salute too. Spoiler for DYRL:
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2008-09-26, 22:53 | Link #735 | ||
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I believe your reading of the scene is in a degree, (sorry Tak) is more sensible than Tak's. Not that I don't believe Tak's cannot become one symbolization though, just need more convincing than the reason he stated above. Probably in the movie later? Fangirling something is okay, but when someone states it as a fact... Uh... /facepalm time? By the way, I think we should move to Romance Thread after this post, since I'm smelling some Romance argumentation if we keep going into this way
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2008-09-26, 23:07 | Link #736 | |
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From what we've gathered from Grace about the relationship of the Vajra ans Protoculture is that the Protoculture respected, feared and admired the Vajra.
This leads to theorize about some points seen on Macross Dynamite 7. copy pasta from MW. Quote:
As I've said in another thread while the Mayan origin story is an analogy of our evolution influenced by the Protoculture. It does not mean it is the same for the Protoculture. Their animism beliefs involving fold capable species. (The Anima Spiritia?) The Vajra are their Birdman while Vahl Ena or Space Whales are the Fishman. While the AHPOS bears a resemblance to the Vajra queen, Zentran warships' organic design aesthetic is reminicent of Space Whales. On Zola the ancient Ancestor writings on Whale bones in the Whale cemetary indicate the Zolans ancestors revered the Great White Whale as a god who cannot die. Existing for millions of years. Those ancestral writings and illustration could very well be Protoculture itself recording the Vahl Ena migration. Also note that the three eyed Zolan snake which is always around a Zolan's neck bears a resemblance to the Vajra larva. Zolan snakes could be legacy of the Protoculture to the Zolans. Since Zolan snakes are telepathic and inteligent enough to read ancient writing. |
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2008-09-26, 23:13 | Link #737 | |
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2008-09-26, 23:31 | Link #738 |
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More Symbolism...
Hi all, first post (can't believe i register just for this)
Well, first i have to say that i favour Ranka more than Sheryl, so Sheryl fans...try ignore my first post plz To all those symbolism, I have a counter example for Ranka Fans: Spoiler for not for sheryl fans:
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2008-09-26, 23:36 | Link #739 | |
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Okay... But I have a counter to that. Spoiler:
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2008-09-26, 23:47 | Link #740 |
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Like i give for sheryl fans, I also give it for Ranka fans! the hand being a right hand doesn't mean anything. See how easy to see things that are not there when you have shipper goggles on. reaching with the hand is a gesture, doesn't mean he is choosing anyone!
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