(CR) Hunter X Hunter Anime (2011)

[fanimanga]

There's nothing much to say about the sparkling fairy dust... different people, different stroke. Personally, I like it. As the following people said:

sleepypenguin: Blood is too mainstream for Hisoka

fuckyeahhisoka: That’s exactly what I thought. He has motherfuking stars intead of blood.

fatefuljoke: Please, He is a Diva.

sleepypenguin: ^AGREED. I kinda imagined his mutated arm doing the finger snap.


fuckyeahhisoka: ^

Man, I love this side of the fandom. And in case other people read/watched his experimental series - Level E, that's Togashi humour right there.

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"Their aura's flow like a serene rivers." - Wing


MANGA


HXH 2011


HXH 1999

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Ten, Zetsu, Ren, Hatsu in the new hxh anime respectively (models: Kastro and Killua):


TEN


ZETSU


REN - (massive) white aura, HATSU - colored aura (hands)


Ten, Zetsu, Ren, Hatsu in the old hxh anime.... none. They're all depicted like this:



/nuff said


Credits: images provided by SHINOBI-03

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by fanimanga

There's nothing much to say about the sparkling fairy dust... different people, different stroke. Personally, I like it. As the following people said:



Man, I love this side of the fandom. And in case other people read/watched his experimental series - Level E, that's Togashi humour right there.

*snrk* Yeah, from that angle it does make it rather awesome.

[Toto y Moi]

Hisoka is a major diva. Tons of his lines are packed with sexual innuendo too. For example, you know the line he says at the end of the episode? Crunchyroll translated it as "I think I have a little motivation now." But it's also a pun; the line also means "I think I want to do it with you a little now...<3."

The heart is in the original text. CR should consider adding Hisoka's suit symbols into their subtitles.

[bbsbwk]

Originally Posted by Dist

What fights? You mean this fight? Your memory is way off.. It definitely wasn't skipped but I can't remember it being pretty gory either .. Still, an obvious censorship like this with sparkles is just outright retarded.

No, the 1999 series skipped 90% of the Hisoka vs Kastro fight, that is a fact. It featured more blood in those few glimpses but what's the point if the actual fight wasn't even animated and shown.

Originally Posted by fanimanga

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Thank you so much for these. I love how the 2011 paid more attention to details and break down, explained and executed the Nen system with a lot of respect and effort. They distinguished very clearly the differences between the 4 modes, and on top of that they still manage to give individualism with the color coded "Hatsu" (yes i love that Hisoka's is pink).

I was totally blah on the 1999 series handling of nen, it's just one-note cheap looking glowy colors and I find it strange how attached some 1999 series fans are.

Originally Posted by Toto y Moi

Hisoka is a major diva. Tons of his lines are packed with sexual innuendo too. For example, you know the line he says at the end of the episode? Crunchyroll translated it as "I think I have a little motivation now." But it's also a pun; the line also means "I think I want to do it with you a little now...<3."

The heart is in the original text. CR should consider adding Hisoka's suit symbols into their subtitles.

Yes I love the sexual innuendos Togashi packed in Hisoka's dialogues, there's even some in his fighting poses (a recent one in the latest manga comes to mind). The sexual innuendos in his dialogues works best with Japanese's language system, as they would most likely be lost in translation. Japanese borrowed a lot of words from Chinese, but a lot of Chinese words can have multiple meanings, they would also assigned a Japanese reading (Kunyomi) to those Chinese words in a smaller side-note type to put the word into context. That's where a lot of the fun can be hidden. The vocabulary in Hisoka lines would be written in Kanji (Chinese) form that has a certain meaning, yet the hiragana reading assigned to that kanji word would have completely different meaning. That's where a lot of the sexual innuendos comes in.

Hisoka's skills "Bungee Gum" is one example. In the Kanji written form it means "Elastic Love", but the Japanese reading saids "Bungee Gum". Most English translation would just take "Bungee Gum" as the translation, but that means English readers would miss the awesome "Elastic Love" name.

I can think of another recent example is when he threatened to kill Killua, even though the written Kanji word saids 'kill', the 'kunyomi' reading that goes with it didn't use the conventional reading "koroshite". Instead it uses a reading that meant 'violate/rape', and given Hisoka's sexual hand gesture as he made that threat, you put the two into context...

[Chiaki_chan]

I must put myself to watch this anime

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by bbsbwk

I was totally blah on the 1999 series handling of nen, it's just one-note cheap looking glowy colors and I find it strange how attached some 1999 series fans are.

Nostalgia's pretty much the only reason. It's just something we're so used to it feels weird to see it changed. Most of us will probably get used to it and wonder why the heck we protested against it in a dozen or so episodes.

[Dengar]

I'm not sure whether or not the sparkles are meant to replace blood though. I do seem to recall this match being rather bloodless despite the arm-rippage.

[SHINOBI-03]

I've been following this thread for ages and I saw it was time to join and bring more activity here.

First things first, I'm mainly on the manga side. I've read the manga before the new series has started and now I'm up to the Chimera Ant arc, and no I don't read scanlations and I save it all to the official volumes.

Second, I'm on the side of the new series. If it wasn't for the remake, I would watch the original. But after reading negative views on it and how it contradicts the manga a lot, I decided to follow the more faithful adaptation.

More to come in the future.

[SHINOBI-03]

Dear complainers, haters, vampires and gore lovers who got disappointed by the lack of blood and usage of "pixie sparkles" in episode 31...

Spoiler:

WATCH MORE SHONEN ANIME!

Because if you are complaining about lack of blood in the fight, then that means you really don't watch enough action shonen anime. What? The new HxH anime is the first time you see this kind of censorship?!


In Sasuke (1968), there's a character who lost her foot in an explosion and there was no blood.




Tenshinhan from Dragon Ball Z lost his arm and the colors were off. And He bled yellow blood!





Busou Renkin got radiated blood







Toriko uses whatever works for them










Even Mami from Madoka Magica! She bled sparkles and didn't show when Charlotte was eating her.





Heck! Even Fist of the North Star had censored violence!







But Oh Noes! This is Hunter x Hunter! The greatest series ever! Censorship is not excusable even though they are giving us the whole fight and Hisoka did loss his arm! If you're still complaining, be grateful it's not anything like THIS:

Spoiler:

ARE YOU STILL COMPLAINING?! ARE YOU?!!

[leokiko]

Yep, I will still complain. Bleach sucks, and it's mostly for kids/teens as in there is almost no mature themes.

At least censore it in a better way. The show is colorful enough already.

[SHINOBI-03]

Originally Posted by leokiko

Yep, I will still complain. Bleach sucks, and it's mostly for kids/teens as in there is almost no mature themes.

At least censore it in a better way. The show is colorful enough already.

Yes, BLEACH's censorship is miles worse than HxH, which is why you should be thankful for not getting to their level. Hisoka lost his arm and that's the main idea. The blood did not play a major role to be needed.

Plus, the manga did give an explanation to why he didn't bleed and hopefully the new version will carry it out.

Spoiler for explanation:

He used his aura. And when he turned it off, it started bleeding again.

[leokiko]

Originally Posted by SHINOBI-03

Yes, BLEACH's censorship is miles worse than HxH, which is why you should be thankful for not getting to their level. Hisoka lost his arm and that's the main idea. The blood did not play a major role to be needed.

Plus, the manga did give an explanation to why he didn't bleed and hopefully the new version will carry it out.

Spoiler for explanation:

He used his aura. And when he turned it off, it started bleeding again.

They didn't explain here, but it was implied when Machi healed his arm.

About the episode:

Even though I complain a lot, this episode was miles better than the original. It simply put that one to shame, no kidding. Plus, Machi. And Hisoka asking her on a date xD

@edit

Wow, found the sillhouete of the Chimera Ant characters on the first opening...hmm, HOLY SHIT CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS.

[Guardian Enzo]

Hisoka overload this ep. What a wonderful twisted freak of a man he is.

[FlareKnight]

Spoiler for Ep32:

Hisoka is one crazy guy. Getting both arms chopped off in that fight. The guy really does take it easy while seeing how far people can come in terms of becoming his opponent. Unfortunately he is a scary enough guy that if his skills aren't quite enough he can push you mentally into a corner. That guy really should have stayed the hell away from Hisoka and left it alone. Some guys are just too dangerous to mess with.

Respect that stitching skill though. It will take time for the arm to be fully attached, but impressive how she can quickly repair that much damage. The price is high, but really anyone who has fought up to that level especially Hisoka can handle that kind of financial cost.

Pretty messed up as well that Hisoka is just pretending to work with the Troupe. What a guy really. Just focusing on that next target and that thrill.

[SHINOBI-03]

Another magnificent episode.

Spoiler for Episode 32 - Anime vs Manga:

I guess that scene replaces the hand chomp that we see in the manga.







Hisoka's math problem was perfect. The riddle was shown in a way the viewer can keeps up with him, and the best part is they actually show Hisoka pulling the card from his stump! Note the difference in design between the two versions.




Again, we don't see the exact moment of the amputation. Also, if you look closely, you can see something coming out of the arm like it's supposed to be blood, but it's yellow and hard to see under the spotlights.




Hisoka's remark on the dirt on the real Kastro is in the manga, however, we don't see his eyes glow.



The mighty has fallen! This scene was wonderful and Hisoka's theme was fitting for his victory.



And now we see Machi. The design, the voice and the personality are all cool with me. And isn't it convenient that she's available at this moment? I wonder what would Hisoka do about his arms if she wasn't present!





Machi's nen threads had a great effect with the blue on the dark background. In the manga with the exception of the first scene, we don't see the threads. This made me a bit confused and didn't get exactly what she was doing. The camera shutter sound effect was a nice touch. Hisoka's "Be gentle with me" wasn't in the manga. Also, is it me or does he enjoy the stitching a bit too much?! Look at his face while she's doing it!





Three things we didn't get to see. The first is a detailed look at Hisoka's stumps, the second the gush after turning the aura off, and third Machi nipping the thread off.






Then we get to know Hisoka's two special abilities: "Bungee Gum" and "Texture Surprise". In the manga, the explanation was either by the narrator or Machi's monologue. This was made into a dialogue between the two. The same thing was done with the explanation of Hisoka's tricks in the fight.



The next dialogue between gon and Killua was not in the manga.




In the final scene, Machi described Hisoka in a monologue. In the manga, this was narrated.



The final moment was cool when Hisoka slapped the fake tattoo on the mirror. And speaking of which, how did they put the tattoo on? Texture Surprise mimics the looks, but not the feeling. How did they put the tattoo without noticing that they are doing it on a fake surface and not on his actual back?


Final Rate: 9.5/10

Spoiler for Episode 32 - Old vs New:

When Hisoka got out of the arena in the old version, the shadowed him in a way you can't see him at all. In the new version we see him clearly. The old version gave us some glimbs of the fight, but they were vague and no explanation was given.



The stitching process in the old version was not as directly looking as the manga and the new version. It was done in a way that you can't see the tips of Hisoka's arms. Id did give us a detailed look of the wounds on Machi's eyes and they show us when she cuts the threads. And to be honest, I like the sound effect in the old version more than the new one.





Machi's personality in the old version feels cold and unemotional. In the new version they gave her more emotions that we get to see in her interactions with Hisoka.



The old version completely ignored the gum and texture and showed nothing about them. They tried to give an explanation to the gum in Hisoka vs Gon fight, but they tried to make it like a sad story and they failed miserably about it.





But the biggest difference here is the message scene. In the manga as well as the new version, Machi comes and stitches Hisoka's arms back, gives him the message and leaves afterwards and we never see her again. In the old version she leaves for a bit and comes back to give him the message after his fight with Gon. Which brings up the question why didn't she tell him the message from the start instead of waiting all this time! Plus, because she stayed and watched his match with Gon, it creates a plothole in the upcoming events when the Spiders captures Gon and Killua and she doesn't recognize Gon whom she saw fighting with Hisoka. Hisoka's tattoo and shower scene is shown for the first time here as well instead of after his fight with Kastro.

[Anh_Minh]

I didn't really like the explanation of Hisoka's fight. In the manga, it was done in narration, which admittedly wouldn't have worked either in anime. But having those two do the exposition just seemed out of place.

[SHINOBI-03]

You know what's great about the anime? It pays attention to little details that we usually overlook in the manga. Prior to this episode, I thought the scene when Hisoka pulled the card out of his arm was unnecessary and it could be avoided. However, now I understand the motif behind it.



Hisoka tells Kastro that his doppelganger cannot replicate the blood and dirt he get on himself during the battle, and we see blood stains on him. The question is where did the stains come from? The answer is Hisoka's trump card. When he threw it, Kastro swatted it away with his hand and we see some blood splattered from it. So, we could assume the splattered blood got on Kastro without realizing it and so, he got marked as the real one by Hisoka. Of course, I could be wrong, but that's my thought.

[Keroko]

This episode was very enjoyable, since it showed lots of stuff that was left out of the 1999 version. Machi's new hair color and voice are easy to get used to (well, for me at least) and I do like how this new version shows a bit more emotion.

The continuation of the blood censorship was to be expected (aired my grievance about that last week, moving on), but I'm pleasantly surprised at the sound effects used with the card-in-arm trick. Those leave little to the imagination. And the arm-sewing scene was actually less censored in this version. Not much, but at least you get to see the arms.

[ars89]

Oh man Hisoka is so awesome. He's even pretending to be apart of the troupe. Those nen stitches were pretty sweet as well.

[ookamigirl]

Kastro vs Hisoka!
Hisoka was just amazing.
Sacrificing both of his arms like he didn't care at all.
Seems like no one can beat him.
That doctor girl and her Nen stitches were pretty cool.
The explanation of the fight was really interesting.
Killua and Gon still have a lot to learn.