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Judoh · 2010-08-04, 22:52

Well I checked back and I didn't see anyone post it so here is another interesting screenshot from the Ep7 op

Spoiler for another one:

It's another one of those op easter eggs of the scene at the shed in episode 1. Except this one is without Battler and Hideyoshi and just has George. Hmmm.....

UsagiTenpura · 2010-08-04, 23:09

Ah thanks Chronotrig, that's pretty directly from her.
However there's thus no mention at all she's a creator beside our own hopes and expectations?

fatalframe5 · 2010-08-05, 08:50

Without love.... the truth cannot be seen....

fatalframe5 · 2010-08-05, 09:39

hey Anyone can tell me about Umineko Chiru ep7 Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee >"< . I need to know moreeeeeeeee , people side of anti-fantsyyyyyyyyyy

DaBackpack · 2010-08-05, 09:50

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Originally Posted by fatalframe5

hey Anyone can tell me about Umineko Chiru ep7 Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee >"< . I need to know moreeeeeeeee , people side of anti-fantsyyyyyyyyyy

Psssh I'm not anti-fantasy, I'm mystery!
And there is not too much that we know about EP7, but the OP is pretty cool and you should YouTube it. Also the portrait has been revealed; you can probably google that pretty easily.

Quite frankly, I think we will be able to find a solution (or something very close to one) in the next Episode. Seeing how close we are already, a couple of hints can confirm several of the forum's theories.

As for the guys on the portrait, I personally think it's Van Dine and one of his flamboyant male characters, or this "Witch-Hunting Wright" guy or whatever.

LaplaceNoMa · 2010-08-05, 10:25

While I agree that the blue guy is most certainly Van Dine, it's confirmed by the screenshots that the shemale character is a 'real-world' character. And, judging by several facts, s/he is definately related to Krauss/Natsuhi/Jessica.

Well, I'm pretty much convinced that this is 'the child from 19 years ago'.

Ronove · 2010-08-05, 10:33

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Originally Posted by LaplaceNoMa

While I agree that the blue guy is most certainly Van Dine, it's confirmed by the screenshots that the shemale character is a 'real-world' character. And, judging by several facts, s/he is definately related to Krauss/Natsuhi/Jessica.

Well, I'm pretty much convinced that this is 'the child from 19 years ago'.

May I see the screenshots for this 'shemale' character please? And it seems even with the addition to the Ushiromiya family, would this contradict anything with reds and such? Also where can I find these facts of the character being relative to Krauss/Natsushi/Jessica?

Jan-Poo · 2010-08-05, 10:45

Here are the screenshots I took from the OP

and then there's the portrait and the cover

Spoiler for EP7:

Leafsnail · 2010-08-05, 10:55

It'd probably be Featherine's detective piece, since she'll be playing the human side next time (presumably). Wizard Hunting Wright would probably provide support in a similar way to DIanor (only using the Dine rules to murder any romance scenes as well).

My guess is that, if Shkannontrice is true, Bernkastel will show him/ her in an extremely unsympathetic light in episode 7 (possibly pretending to love George and Jessica just so they can get a bit more support for the murder ceremony). They'd probably also be portrayed as a petty idiot for letting the sin fester inside them for years and years (anyone else think Shannon's apparently perfect memory makes her the most likely one to remember what must've been a relatively minor sin 6 years before?).

Actually... does it bother anyone else that the end of episode 4 means "Beatrice" pretty much has to be a bomb, while earlier truths means she pretty much has to be a human?

Renall · 2010-08-05, 10:57

Bernkastel said from the start that Beatrice need not be only one person.

If there can be two Battlers, or two Kinzos, surely there can be many different people and things called "Beatrice."

Pika_power · 2010-08-05, 12:25

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Originally Posted by Leafsnail

Actually... does it bother anyone else that the end of episode 4 means "Beatrice" pretty much has to be a bomb, while earlier truths means she pretty much has to be a human?

If the bomb is set up by Beato, then there is no problem. It's an indirect form of murder, but that wasn't denied.

k//eternal · 2010-08-05, 12:53

Actually, there is, because she claims that she "is here now", which is impossible unless she is the bomb.

Sniesk · 2010-08-05, 13:24

"Beatrice" is just a concept, the embodyment of the rules of the world, as said by Bernkastel. So there is no problem in a part of "her" being a bomb and another part of "her" being the human that Battler meets.

UsagiTenpura · 2010-08-05, 13:38

Beatrice is many things at once.

First of all she is the rule that anything not explained by human means = Beatrice. (Bomb or Volcano or pipeline blowing up fits that as well)

Second, she is "something" to many different characters. Basically she exists as a concept, and a concept is what you see it as. It's a bit like "god", everyone tend to have their own "view" on what it is, including the view that it doesn't exist (same for Beatrice again)

Third, there has been a serie of people who were called Beatrice, or had something in them being called Beatrice. Apparently never more then one at once, but that can hardly be proven.

Finally, if we go back to it's source, which I'm sure Kinzo knows about, Beatrice was to Dante a symbol of eternal inspiration far more then a real person (tho she WAS a real person). Interestingly enough, she married someone else then him.

Rui Brennan · 2010-08-05, 13:40

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Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

Here are the screenshots I took from the OP

Spoiler for EP7 images:

and then there's the portrait and the cover

Spoiler for EP7:

Hmm....

Spoiler for Natsuhi and...:

k//eternal · 2010-08-05, 13:46

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Originally Posted by Sniesk

"Beatrice" is just a concept, the embodyment of the rules of the world, as said by Bernkastel. So there is no problem in a part of "her" being a bomb and another part of "her" being the human that Battler meets.

Sure. But that isn't what I was addressing.

Leafsnail · 2010-08-05, 14:04

I actually suddenly thought the new girl could be Ange. IIRC there was a screenshot of Gohda preparing some porridge for poor, sick Ange. Since no other new character sprites seem to be forthcoming...

She doesn't look much like Ange, but then again, if Ange looked even remotely like her 1998 self in 1986, Battler would've surely recognised her instantly.

Renall · 2010-08-05, 14:08

Ange is 6. Ryukishi can't draw and all, but I don't think that character is 6.

UsagiTenpura · 2010-08-05, 14:18

Guess I can't confirm this at all, in fact I'm probably wrong but...

Well the new char's names seems to appear as the same in nearly every japanese website that talks about Umineko arc 7. These names have been out for a bit but there's no way to say if they're right or not. Doesn't mean anything, but anyway... If I'm to trust that...

イトミミズ Itomimizu, does that mean anything? (the guy)
絶壁 Zeppeki, Cliff I believe? Sound like Battler's fear of falling. (the girl)

Spoiler for Funny new girl pic:

This is pretty funny imo... and feels right!

Volcanic · 2010-08-05, 14:23

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Originally Posted by UsagiTenpura

イトミミズ Itomimizu, does that mean anything? (the guy)
絶壁 Zeppeki, Cliff I believe? Sound like Battler's fear of falling. (the girl)

Searching the first one I get pictures of...an iguana, some sort of fluffball...

The second one gets pictures of a cliff, though, so I think you're right on that one.

2010-08-04, 22:52	Link #15301
Judoh Mystery buff Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Gone Fishin!	Well I checked back and I didn't see anyone post it so here is another interesting screenshot from the Ep7 op Spoiler for another one: It's another one of those op easter eggs of the scene at the shed in episode 1. Except this one is without Battler and Hideyoshi and just has George. Hmmm..... __________________ Judoh's George Culprit Analysis George steals candy from kids! Archive of Ryukishi interviews Gold truth theories:"

2010-08-05, 10:45	Link #15308
Jan-Poo 別にいいけど Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: forever lost inside a logic error	Here are the screenshots I took from the OP and then there's the portrait and the cover Spoiler for EP7: __________________ Last edited by Jan-Poo; 2018-06-17 at 21:10.

2010-08-05, 10:57	Link #15310
Renall BUY MY BOOK!!! Join Date: May 2009	Bernkastel said from the start that Beatrice need not be only one person. If there can be two Battlers, or two Kinzos, surely there can be many different people and things called "Beatrice." __________________ Redaction of the Golden Witch I submit that a murder was committed in 1996. This murder was a "copycat" crime inspired by our tales of 1986. This story is a redacted confession. Blog (VN DL) - YouTube Playlists Battler Solves The Logic Error

2010-08-05, 14:08	Link #15318
Renall BUY MY BOOK!!! Join Date: May 2009	Ange is 6. Ryukishi can't draw and all, but I don't think that character is 6. __________________ Redaction of the Golden Witch I submit that a murder was committed in 1996. This murder was a "copycat" crime inspired by our tales of 1986. This story is a redacted confession. Blog (VN DL) - YouTube Playlists Battler Solves The Logic Error

2010-08-04, 23:09	Link #15302
UsagiTenpura Artist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Yesterday!	Ah thanks Chronotrig, that's pretty directly from her. However there's thus no mention at all she's a creator beside our own hopes and expectations?

2010-08-05, 08:50	Link #15303
fatalframe5 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Ho Chi Minh city	Without love.... the truth cannot be seen....

2010-08-05, 09:39	Link #15304
fatalframe5 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Ho Chi Minh city	hey Anyone can tell me about Umineko Chiru ep7 Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee >"< . I need to know moreeeeeeeee , people side of anti-fantsyyyyyyyyyy

2010-08-05, 10:25	Link #15306
LaplaceNoMa Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Russia, Moscow Age: 35	While I agree that the blue guy is most certainly Van Dine, it's confirmed by the screenshots that the shemale character is a 'real-world' character. And, judging by several facts, s/he is definately related to Krauss/Natsuhi/Jessica. Well, I'm pretty much convinced that this is 'the child from 19 years ago'.

2010-08-05, 10:55	Link #15309
Leafsnail Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010	It'd probably be Featherine's detective piece, since she'll be playing the human side next time (presumably). Wizard Hunting Wright would probably provide support in a similar way to DIanor (only using the Dine rules to murder any romance scenes as well). My guess is that, if Shkannontrice is true, Bernkastel will show him/ her in an extremely unsympathetic light in episode 7 (possibly pretending to love George and Jessica just so they can get a bit more support for the murder ceremony). They'd probably also be portrayed as a petty idiot for letting the sin fester inside them for years and years (anyone else think Shannon's apparently perfect memory makes her the most likely one to remember what must've been a relatively minor sin 6 years before?). Actually... does it bother anyone else that the end of episode 4 means "Beatrice" pretty much has to be a bomb, while earlier truths means she pretty much has to be a human?

2010-08-05, 12:53	Link #15312
k//eternal do you know ベアトリーチェ様? Join Date: Dec 2003 Age: 35	Actually, there is, because she claims that she "is here now", which is impossible unless she is the bomb.

2010-08-05, 13:24	Link #15313
Sniesk It's Hammertime! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Italy (Neaples)	"Beatrice" is just a concept, the embodyment of the rules of the world, as said by Bernkastel. So there is no problem in a part of "her" being a bomb and another part of "her" being the human that Battler meets.

2010-08-05, 13:38	Link #15314
UsagiTenpura Artist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Yesterday!	Beatrice is many things at once. First of all she is the rule that anything not explained by human means = Beatrice. (Bomb or Volcano or pipeline blowing up fits that as well) Second, she is "something" to many different characters. Basically she exists as a concept, and a concept is what you see it as. It's a bit like "god", everyone tend to have their own "view" on what it is, including the view that it doesn't exist (same for Beatrice again) Third, there has been a serie of people who were called Beatrice, or had something in them being called Beatrice. Apparently never more then one at once, but that can hardly be proven. Finally, if we go back to it's source, which I'm sure Kinzo knows about, Beatrice was to Dante a symbol of eternal inspiration far more then a real person (tho she WAS a real person). Interestingly enough, she married someone else then him.

2010-08-05, 14:04	Link #15317
Leafsnail Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010	I actually suddenly thought the new girl could be Ange. IIRC there was a screenshot of Gohda preparing some porridge for poor, sick Ange. Since no other new character sprites seem to be forthcoming... She doesn't look much like Ange, but then again, if Ange looked even remotely like her 1998 self in 1986, Battler would've surely recognised her instantly.

2010-08-05, 14:18	Link #15319
UsagiTenpura Artist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Yesterday!	Guess I can't confirm this at all, in fact I'm probably wrong but... Well the new char's names seems to appear as the same in nearly every japanese website that talks about Umineko arc 7. These names have been out for a bit but there's no way to say if they're right or not. Doesn't mean anything, but anyway... If I'm to trust that... イトミミズ Itomimizu, does that mean anything? (the guy) 絶壁 Zeppeki, Cliff I believe? Sound like Battler's fear of falling. (the girl) Spoiler for Funny new girl pic: This is pretty funny imo... and feels right!