GATE - Character Discussion - Lelei La Lalena

[Top Sergeant]

That bit in the pool with the giant soap bubble was funny.

I also wonder if she tends to fall asleep next to Itami because she feels safe with him.

[Flower]

Originally Posted by Top Sergeant

That bit in the pool with the giant soap bubble was funny.

I also wonder if she tends to fall asleep next to Itami because she feels safe with him.

For some reason i thought it was an orb of water instead of a bubble...hmm.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Flower

For some reason i thought it was an orb of water instead of a bubble...hmm.

It was water. She was using magic to float a sphere of water in the air.

I also wonder if she tends to fall asleep next to Itami because she feels safe with him.

I believe it has more to do with that night he brought her to a bed in the base and then fell asleep there with her. I suspect "sleeping together" with no one else in the room like that, even though it was unintentional, may have had greater significance in Lelei's culture than Itami realizes.

I'm so glad they cleared up use of magic on Earth for Lelei specifically. I suppose they technically implied that it could be used when everyone was unable to pick up Rory's halberd in episode 8, but stating it clearly was useful. Totally ready to see some hardcore magic use.

We're pretty sure Rory's halberd's weight isn't due to magic, though. It's just really really heavy.

[nojay]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

We're pretty sure Rory's halberd's weight isn't due to magic, though. It's just really really heavy.

If magic didn't work in our world then Rory's "connection" to Emroy might have been broken when she went through the Gate at which point she might have lost her waif-fu abilities. The end of episode 9 indicates that Rory's connection to Emroy is fully functional in the same way it was at the battle of Italica.

Watching Lelei playing with the water bubble obliviously while the other girls talked dirty was seriously cute.

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

I believe it has more to do with that night he brought her to a bed in the base and then fell asleep there with her. I suspect "sleeping together" with no one else in the room like that, even though it was unintentional, may have had greater significance in Lelei's culture than Itami realizes.

I think this is a plot point later in the story, in particular the number of times they have "slept together" whether anyone else was there or not. (I've been counting...)

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by nojay

If magic didn't work in our world then Rory's "connection" to Emroy might have been broken when she went through the Gate at which point she might have lost her waif-fu abilities. The end of episode 9 indicates that Rory's connection to Emroy is fully functional in the same way it was at the battle of Italica.

I never indicated that any of those things happened. I only said that other people couldn't pick up Rory's halberd because it was genuinely heavy.

I think this is a plot point later in the story, in particular the number of times they have "slept together" whether anyone else was there or not. (I've been counting...)

It just struck me as being one of those situations certain comedy episodes get based around, where a guy does something innocent or at least accidental with a girl from another culture, and it turns out that her culture would consider it to mean the two of them are engaged, or already married, or something like that.

[Znail]

Originally Posted by nojay

If magic didn't work in our world then Rory's "connection" to Emroy might have been broken when she went through the Gate at which point she might have lost her waif-fu abilities. The end of episode 9 indicates that Rory's connection to Emroy is fully functional in the same way it was at the battle of Italica.

Watching Lelei playing with the water bubble obliviously while the other girls talked dirty was seriously cute.

If you look at how large it is so would naturally weight quite a lot. So the main magic involved is how Rory can twirl it around like she does, not how much it weights. Note that even a 50kg item isn't something you can casually pick up with one hand like the agent tried. And it's large enough that it could be 100kg. I doubt that it's much more then that as it didn't tilt the car or anything like that when she put it in there. But I guess she did put it in the middle of the car from my memory.

[nojay]

Originally Posted by Znail

So the main magic involved is how Rory can twirl it around like she does, not how much it weights.

The magical art of waif-fu as practiced in manga/anime makes it possible for a small person (=waif) usually a cute girl weighing 35kg and arms like spaghetti to wield a weapon that weighs more than she does like it was made from aerogel and sunbeams. Even styrofoam polearms have inertia and from personal experience a 2kg quarterstaff will bust up my wrists in less than ten minutes of spin practice. No waif-fu for me, alas (and I'd look silly in one of those stupid dresses...)

Rory carried her halberd through the Gate and didn't immediately fall over or drop it so the waif-fu is still with her. Then again we saw the wyvern flyers in the first episode and the wyverns have got to be magical given their body size and wing loading.

[Apache Thunder]

I think the axe is probably closer to that of thor's hammer. It may be heavy perhaps, but it's weight might change depending on who's holding it (or who's attempting to hold it. )

In episode 6 Itami had no problems picking up Rory right before that helicopter took out those soldiers. She was holding the axe the whole time from what I could tell. If the axe was naturally always too heavy for a normal human to hold, it's mass would be added to Rory due to basic physics. Since naturally the mass of an object when being held by another would result in a larger object (Rory + Axe) that has the combined mass of the two objects. He shouldn't have been able to lift her until she drops the axe. But this never happens and he lifts her up with little effort anyways.

So I think the axe's true weight isn't a fixed value and perhaps closer to that to Thor's hammer. That doesn't mean Rory isn't strong though. She definitely has super human speed and strength. In episode 6 you can see her leap up great distances (when she jumped onto a house roof which was more then 10 feet up at the least) and appeared to run as fast as a car while traversing the rooftops. Even if the axe didn't behave like Thor's hammer, she could probably still wield it. :P

Now let's pretend the axe is really light when Rory lifts it. That wouldn't make it very useful as a halberd/axe. It needs to have a high mass to give it the momentum to drive it's blade into the target. So I believe it's mass actually changes depending on how much force Rory decides to put into it. So it gets heavy when she swings it around with the intention of killing people. But for example when Itami carries her, she isn't actively using it so it becomes much lighter.

Also this is the discussion thread for Lelei. Why all the Rory discussion?

[nojay]

Originally Posted by Apache Thunder

Also this is the discussion thread for Lelei. Why all the Rory discussion?

It drifted a bit from seeing Lelei performing a magic trick with a water "ball" in the hot springs and questioning about whether Special Region magic worked in our world -> Rory's halberd.

It's in the nature of Internet discussions to drift. Do you want to talk about why?

[Ghostfriendly]

Leilei in the op really looks like she's making a brilliant speech for peace between Earth and Gateworld. With good set-up, that would be nice to see.

Any guess why Leilei gets far more screentime and plot role than her far more experienced teacher? Because she learns Japanese quickly? Good excuse as excuses go ( not that I want to see any more of her teacher unless he's developed beyond a dirty old man).

[Tangowr]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

I believe it has more to do with that night he brought her to a bed in the base and then fell asleep there with her. I suspect "sleeping together" with no one else in the room like that, even though it was unintentional, may have had greater significance in Lelei's culture than Itami realizes.

Pretty much, remember she's of a nomadic tribe that is not a part of the empire, so JSDF don't have much on their "courting" ritual.

And also her method to win over Itami is probabely the most entertaining out of his harem, it's similiar very...Lelei.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

I believe it has more to do with that night he brought her to a bed in the base and then fell asleep there with her. I suspect "sleeping together" with no one else in the room like that, even though it was unintentional, may have had greater significance in Lelei's culture than Itami realizes.

I'm not sure such a rule would be very practical for a tribe of nomads.

[David375]

I'd like to see the story writers explain the functionality of her staff. She can clearly perform magic without it, as demonstrated by the water-hovering trick, and that her teacher is never seen with one (perhaps it was once his and he gave it to her?), so what purpose does it serve?

[Tangowr]

Originally Posted by David375

I'd like to see the story writers explain the functionality of her staff. She can clearly perform magic without it, as demonstrated by the water-hovering trick, and that her teacher is never seen with one (perhaps it was once his and he gave it to her?), so what purpose does it serve?

In most fantasy serie, the staff enchance stat, or give more finer control over not using it, some staff also have specific ability.

Shiroe from Log Horizon have 2 staff, one that reduce cast time, one that increase effect.
Momonga from Overlord, his guild weapon, beside giving huge stat boost, also allows him to summon 1 fire elemental once per day with no cost.

In overlord, Lelei's staff has her school of magic emblem, that's how the princess recognize which magic branch she belong to, so it might be more of a status symbol, or it might have some stat boosting effect.

[Random Wanderer]

Typically a mage's staff is a focusing and amplifying tool. Also the design of the staff identifies what school of sorcery she is trained in. And lastly...



...the sage does, in fact, have one.

[LoweGear]

So the latest episode reminded me of a small detail I forgot when reading the manga:

Leilei bought a laptop.

And note that Alnus base is said to have internet in earlier chapters/episodes.

THE INTERNET.

May whoever diety she worships have mercy on Leilei's soul...

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

So the latest episode reminded me of a small detail I forgot when reading the manga:

Leilei bought a laptop.

And note that Alnus base is said to have internet in earlier chapters/episodes.

THE INTERNET.

May whoever diety she worships have mercy on Leilei's soul...

Pray she spend more time on wikipedia than 2ch.

[Anh_Minh]

Hopefully she'll answer honestly when a site asks her if she's 18 or more. That'll buy her time before finding porn of herself.

[nojay]

Originally Posted by Sheba

Pray she spend more time on wikipedia than 2ch.

And hope she doesn't find this thread on Animesuki or she'll be able to really foretell the future what with all the spoilers people keep dumping here.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by nojay

And hope she doesn't find this thread on Animesuki or she'll be able to really foretell the future what with all the spoilers people keep dumping here.

So if she reads about the future plot of the anime from within the anime she could make decisions that would change the plot of the anime?

That's some Inception-level stuff there.