2018-05-13, 14:29 | Link #1744 |
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White rabbit isn't necessary for me since i have Kaguya already, but isn't people saying that white rabbit hunt is even far more frustrating than Belle ??? And here i thought Belle hunting was getting on my nerve ....
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2018-05-14, 07:41 | Link #1745 |
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Neither one is a must. I know because I have neither and I'm still playing.
Ignore those people. Hunting for those things is a surefire way to burn out. It's one thing if you enjoy grinding, but you're already suffering. Quit while you're ahead.
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2018-05-14, 10:00 | Link #1746 |
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Yeah, i agree, kinda lucked out with Belle though, I'm going with the last run when i post yesterday and she drop that run but if anything it make me want to never do it again, seriously, it was frustrating, i was using Bounty at 1st, but later run i just drop it altogether and left it to chance
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2018-05-15, 08:36 | Link #1749 |
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actually doesn't seem that much important to me in leveling quick, one is that after you get your 1st 4th tier job, which level are you at aren't that much important, and leveling characters is boil down to use fodder anyway,
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It isn't necessary by all means, but the white rabbit actually makes your life easier in a significant fashion. If anything, the white rabbit is even more valuable for people who don't play that much. Quote:
And no, you aren't supposed to use fodder for the characters. Less than 1 hour of sliming is enough. Weapons need fodders way more than characters.
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2018-05-15, 19:42 | Link #1751 |
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Regular play runs only count if there's a finite number of runs, but you'll still be playing long after getting those characters to level 100. If you're the kind of person who has to have everything now then your own White Rabbit can be worth it. Otherwise a friend summon is good enough.
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2018-05-16, 01:22 | Link #1752 | |
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oh god, alway use fodder on chars and wep, though it might jusr be that my grid aren't that developed |
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2018-05-16, 04:25 | Link #1753 | |
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Why settling with support rabbit when you can use both? What about situations when you cannot rely on support? This is particularly true for coop sliming where it is much faster to do it solo instead of using an alt that would host the slimes (and still require the rabbit anyway) or someone else, still adding more latency. The difference is huge: white rabbit only require AP. Black rabbit is worth 150000 arcarum points, which are severely time gated. You can get at most 6000 points per week (assuming you cleared all 3 arcarum paths in EX, which is doubtful in your case), which means you need at least more than 2 weeks, and that's half the cost of a sunlight stone, or a toncrap of requirements mats such as sephira stone, astra or haze.
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2018-05-16, 13:58 | Link #1754 | |
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2018-05-16, 14:03 | Link #1755 |
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I don't call that play style, but difference of priorities.
That said, you can't expect things to be obtained without minimal efforts. If you disregard one of the few elements in the game that makes grinding less of a chore (which isn't even that RNG dependant to begin with), then you are just making your game experience more miserable deliberately.
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2018-05-16, 16:25 | Link #1756 |
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It's not miserable at all. It's extremely relaxing and the only way a burnout-prone gamer like me can play this game for so long. At the core of it is the realization that this is just a game and all the items we are grinding for are just collections of pixels. As Beat Takeshi famously said, "こんな げーむに まじに なっちゃって どうするの"
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2018-05-16, 16:30 | Link #1757 |
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That's why I said it is a matter of priorities. It is your choice anyway, but then, by making such decision, you then have no right to complain about X or Y thing being more annoying/longer than it should be if you don't put the proper investment in place.
It is the same thing with the Sylph bell. It isn't required by any means, but then you are deliberately hindering yourself for a certain part of the game. And just in case: that's actually fine as long you know what you are doing. I'm not saying "you -must- do X or Y", I'm actually pointing out the consequence of neglecting some part of the game, nothing more, nothing less. It is the usual thing with any game with grinding: no pain, no gain.
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2018-05-16, 16:47 | Link #1758 | |
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2018-05-16, 16:52 | Link #1759 |
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You complained about the FLB of the magna summons. Shmaster suggested 10-15 man trains as it is the most efficient way to get anima, and you plainly answered you "would rather swallow shattered glass instead".
It is the same kind of context: there is a way to alleviate the grind and you deliberately ignore it. I don't feel like digging more but you get the idea.
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