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2008-03-22, 09:17 | Link #22 | |
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2008-03-22, 09:28 | Link #24 |
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Hello guys, I'm a HAN chinese and I'm living in Beijing now.
Unluckily, my English is VERY poor as I tried to spend a lot of time to read this post. I think maybe I had got yours main idea. Some of these we are in identical. Now, anyone want to ask me some questions? I will try my best to reply. |
2008-03-22, 09:46 | Link #26 |
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Integrity? How can there be any kind of integrity when minorities receive this kind of treatment? Sure, if you throw away ethics, forget about human rights and just care about the economical and political side, you might say there's no contradiction, but since the Olympic Games are supposed to be not just a simple sports event but also to represent and solidify human rights, equality between countries and cultures and races, and all the positive human and social values, how in the world could this situation not appear contradictory? Allow me to feel a bit, well, vexed. :\
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2008-03-22, 09:46 | Link #27 | |
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So, why not hold a Olypmic Game? |
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2008-03-22, 09:55 | Link #28 | |
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minorities have a lot of special rights in mainland China. For example, they can have 2 chindren, they will be given special treatment in some of the important exams, even, in many east china citys, the police will not arrest minorities who violate the law silghtly. |
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2008-03-22, 09:56 | Link #29 |
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PRC may initiate at their own expense but this years Olympics game will be a complete commercial flop with many sponsors considering or already decided to remove their names as many individual athletes from various nations based on either health and/or political concerns as well.
This will no doubt smear the pride of PRC and will have chilling effect on the Shanghai stock market. |
2008-03-22, 10:00 | Link #30 |
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I think you're putting too much faith in the supposed values of the Olympic Games... but reality is harsher than that. Truth is, if the OG didn't generate any kind of revenue, they wouldn't be held. They're in the hands of advertisers, not of human rights activists.
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2008-03-22, 10:04 | Link #31 | |
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2008-03-22, 10:14 | Link #32 | |
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Your assertion seems too naive. IOC is not a public agency but a private organisation, which earns from the sponsorship and advertisements. Yes the ideal is precious and important, but it has little effect on IOC. |
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2008-03-22, 10:25 | Link #33 | |
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2008-03-22, 10:28 | Link #34 | |
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2008-03-22, 10:37 | Link #35 | |
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I can tell you, every time the pro-democratic politicians in Hong Kong try to test the so-called autonomy that was supposed to be promised to Hong Kong by the communists, the communists would quickly berate them for even "daring to contemplate independence". So what the f*** do you communists want? If you are in full control of HK, then say you have full control of HK, rather than kidding yourself that HK is enjoying full autonomy when I can't even elect my mayor and then misleading people like the Dalai into thinking Tibet can have something that never really existed as long as the commies are in charge. Quote:
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Also Tibet before the the dissoulation of the Qing Dynasty which was hasten by the Opium War in which the British force China to make Opium legal. Tibet was a part of China for almost 300 hundred years.
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2008-03-22, 13:03 | Link #39 |
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I doubt it. Firstly, Qing was Manchurian Empire, not of Han. It does not justify Han's rule over Tibetan people. To my eyes, your insistence seems like Saddam's that Qatar should be a part of Iraq because both were once equally conquered by Ottoman. Secondly, "a protectorate of A" and "a part of A" should be strictly distinguished. Tibet had been for long a sort of protectionate of Qing dynasty, it is true, since 1639. But Qing had never once had direct control over the area. In 1912, Tibet declared the end of protection relationship, and enjoyed independence until 1951, when the Communist China invaded and annexated forcibly into it.
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2008-03-22, 13:09 | Link #40 | |
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I think the Olympics should be boycotted . A country which illegally occupies another for more 50 odd years doesnt deserve the games . The sad part is Yes it will be devastating blow for Chinese Pride but the fun part is it will be a mighty smack on the cheek for commies.
They are leaving no stone unturned for the games to be a success so it will be befitting for them if games are boycotted . I hope some athlete who wins and event should drape himself with a Tibetan flag . Quote:
The King I am talking about was Songtsän Gampo ( Hurray for Discovery Channel)
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