help me on building a pc :(

[Miles Teg]

What type of upgrade ?? If you don't change the motherboard you shouldn't have "problem" with an OEM version for example.

If your on a budget the OEM version is a better choice, the call to Microsoft to reactive won't cost you 80$ (it's free in France).

[Ryusiangel]

so if i use this i can use this windows 7 oem version on the same motherboard? if i want to do a reformat again or if you know put your computer to facotry seal?

[hobbes_fan]

There's nothing too bad there. I'd save $$ on the motherboard by going I really don't understand why you keep going NVIDIA though. At any pricepoint ATI has better cards right now. Pick a 5750, 4870 or 5770. They're all faster and better than the gts 250 at the same price.

Don't bother with a 790g board unless you really really desperately want to use 2 videocards. And you don't.

Personally I've stopped using Asus because of their poor bios updates. I've moved to Gigabyte now and the bios is much more user friendly.

Here is the PSU i'd recommend.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703011

You'll probably have to reformat and install W7. Your W7 install is setup for the hardware you have now. The hardware will be extremely different so there probably will be issues unles you reinstall.

[synaesthetic]

The only reason I'd go with nvidia over ATI right now is if it was in a laptop that had only nvidia options, or I needed to use CUDA for something (which ATI does not have an equivalent).

[hobbes_fan]

And right now off the top off my head I can probably name a handful of apps that are fully uttilising it. And who even knows if Cuda will be widespread for gaming - OpenCL is just as likely to be succesful for the desktop. And being open source it probably has a better chance of getting more support. On a limited budget I really really avoid building a system around any vaporware or hardware to be released. You end up building a half assed pc that's not paricularly good now and won't be particularly any better in the future.

to op you sure really don't want to spend $5.00 more for a 500gb hdd?
Save yourself $20.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131397
You're not going to use the features such as integrated graphics because you will have a video card. You won't be crossfiring so it's waste as well.
And again save $5.00 here
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227346

Are you a student BTW? If you are check if your school is part of the MSDNAA program. You can get W7 for $30. If you're not you probably know someone who is
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/academic/default.aspx
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/new...r-students.ars

If you want to use 4gb make sure you get the 64bit version. If you just want to use 32 bit, 2gb of RAM is enough so adjust accordingly.

[Ryusiangel]

no i'm not a student but appearntly i don't mind if i budget a lil over 600 just not over 700 i do want a gaming rig.... did chagne stuff this time i prefer asus over msi or other type of mobo




http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106289
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811144248
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136098
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131381
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371016
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145247
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103687
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116754


tell me if this is ok i prefer good reviews if it has 70-80% good ones that memory you showed me has low :x

[hobbes_fan]

Mini rant on newegg reviews (similar to my thoughts on Youtube comments)

Spoiler:

Memory is memory no matter the brand they're all generally made by Samsung/Hynix and if you look at the complaints they're playing around with voltages and generally sound completely clueless so who knows if the the sticks were bad or it was user error but that matter as it won't fit on this board anyway as it is DDR2 only. There were also issue with Intel i7 motherboards and CPU's not playing nice with some sticks of RAM and that's no fault of the RAM either. Not to mention shill reviews and crackpots with a vendetta. I believe PEBKAC issues account for 90% of issues.

There's a combo deal with the card and w7 which saves you $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...656.14-131-140
EDIT: OOPS IGNORE You were after home Premium *sigh* I hate the new naming scheme

Look around if there are combo packages for oyur other stuff. I'm too sleepy to look for the combo packages but otherwise that's fine. I've actually just d/l Aion and will be giving it a run tomorrow.

I still say spend the $8.00 and get a 500gb hdd

actually if you're not in a rush these are out shortly (like the next week or so) and should be a better cpu at the same price
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/athlon...iew-31709.html
10% better for $10 is huge value

[npcomplete]

Originally Posted by Ryusiangel

so if i use this i can use this windows 7 oem version on the same motherboard? if i want to do a reformat again or if you know put your computer to facotry seal?

Yes, there's no problem with that at all. At least with Vista/XP you get a certain amount of reactiviations (like 4 or 5) then you have to call them to get it reactivated which is not a problem.

One of the reviews does have a point about the DDR2-1066 memory by corsair, although he's a little mistaken. Corsair and Kingston set the default speed to DDR2-800 since it is the highest approved standard speed for DDR2 (by JEDEC). It's not publicized but you can find it in their spec. You have to manually set the voltage, the speed and the timings higher to get them to run at 1066. The ram will have the timings and voltage printed on its label.

It's quite a lot of fiddling to do and can result in an unstable system if you do something wrong. I would highly recommend going with standard speeds: DDR2-800 for DDR2 and DDR3-1333 for DDR3 just to simplify things so you can simply set everything in the BIOS to "default" and not have to worry about anything.

As such I'd recommend:
AM3 motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131398 - $99
DDR3 memory (2 x 2GB): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148262 - $69

and consider this cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103724
it's Athlon II X3 2.9Ghz for $89. You're getting an entire cpu core for only $23 more over the X2-245 you cited. It should benefit with the latest CCCP (use MT option) and more so with CoreAVC.

The motherboard above comes with a decent low end GPU (HD 4200) with dvi and hdmi so you might be able to hold off the video card purchase until later if you don't need a high end one right now.

Note that black Friday is only a month away...

[chikorita157]

Originally Posted by npcomplete

Yes, there's no problem with that at all. At least with Vista/XP you get a certain amount of reactiviations (like 4 or 5) then you have to call them to get it reactivated which is not a problem.

One of the reviews does have a point about the DDR2-1066 memory by corsair, although he's a little mistaken. Corsair and Kingston set the default speed to DDR2-800 since it is the highest approved standard speed for DDR2 (by JEDEC). It's not publicized but you can find it in their spec. You have to manually set the voltage, the speed and the timings higher to get them to run at 1066. The ram will have the timings and voltage printed on its label.

It's quite a lot of fiddling to do and can result in an unstable system if you do something wrong. I would highly recommend going with standard speeds: DDR2-800 for DDR2 and DDR3-1333 for DDR3 just to simplify things so you can simply set everything in the BIOS to "default" and not have to worry about anything.

As such I'd recommend:
AM3 motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131398 - $99
DDR3 memory (2 x 2GB): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148262 - $69

and consider this cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103724
it's Athlon II X3 2.9Ghz for $89. You're getting an entire cpu core for only $23 more over the X2-245 you cited. It should benefit with the latest CCCP (use MT option) and more so with CoreAVC.

The motherboard above comes with a decent low end GPU (HD 4200) with dvi and hdmi so you might be able to hold off the video card purchase until later if you don't need a high end one right now.

Note that black Friday is only a month away...

In actuality, you can reactivate the same copy of Windows on the same machine unlimited times... unless your motherboard dies for some reason. In that case you might need to call Microsoft to reactivate via phone.